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Worried that DA2 backlash will revert same-sex progress in DA3


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Kidd

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It seems most, or at least many, people feel DA2 was a large disappointment (this is not a thread about that). Bearing this in mind, I fear some of the great features that were introduced in DA2 will be looked down on, perhaps not because of much more than a knee-jerk reaction to parachuting templars.

What I'd like to address in this thread is the same-sex romances.

All of us know that in DAO, a homosexual character only had one character to "choose from" in the gallery. If your character was a greedy mage with no positive feelings about what she had to endure at the Circle (and indirectly, feel dislike toward the Chantry) for instance, you weren't going to hit it off with Leliana and thus ended up single with no choice. This really limits the kind of options you have in the game, and more importantly, the kind of stories the game can tell along with you. Since adding an NPC is a lot of work, we can't expect BioWare to feed us enough of them to serve all our characters' wishes.

Still, a large part of being a good PnP game master is the ability to say "Yes, and~" instead of "No" as often as possible when asked for things by the players. Thus, if we want our character to have the option of developing a relationship - something that is with no doubt a pretty large part of many people's lives - it is in our interest that the game allows us to get there. And by enabling all love interests to all characters, we have much more freedom in crafting the kind of role playing experience we want.

I hope our love interests will stay available, no matter what happens to DA3's overall design.

Modifié par KiddDaBeauty, 14 juin 2011 - 11:03 .


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John Epler

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Agamo45 wrote...

Good God, is this all you people care about? You just have to shove this "same-sex" crap into the mix every chance you get don't you? Are you not going to stop until every single character is bi/gay? This is getting ridiculous.


For many people, this is an incredibly important issue. Greater representation of same-sex romances in media is something they strive towards because, well, they currently don't have this representation. Unlike heterosexual folks, they can't watch a tv show, read a book or play a game and have a greater than 50% chance that they'll see a relationship or character that they can identify with in the same way that the rest of the population can.

So for them, it -is- a major issue, and one that goes beyond the level of 'I want more character customization options' or 'I think that there needs to be more branching in the story'. Those are game-specific considerations, and while they're certainly valid - they don't speak to larger social issues. This is not true of same-sex romance - there's a lot more going on there, and as such, it will remain a fairly significant topic of discussion on these (and other, I imagine) forums.

Which is a fancy way of saying, essentially - no one forced you into this thread. If you have something constructive to say, please do so! However, coming in and saying what amounts to 'another thread about being equally and fairly represented in media? Why do you guys care so much about being able to identify with characters and romances that represent you and your sexual orientation?' It's not a convincing argument, and comes across as rather overly hostile.

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John Epler

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I'm going to make this easy. Conflating homosexuality and pedophilia is 100% unacceptable. Do it again at your own peril.

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John Epler

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Yeah, calling homosexuals degenerates is not going to win you any points here.

Locking this thread. And a couple of bans handed out for good measure.