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[Stardusk78]

Predictions? Thoughts?

[Massadonious1]

Oh, this should be interesting.

[BickDutt]

Ashley and Kaidan will be the same character.

[Stardusk78]

BickDutt wrote...

Ashley and Kaidan will be the same character.

Kaidan will be a hot, spandex wearing female with ****** and ass?

[Kadzin]

BickDutt wrote...

Ashley and Kaidan will be the same character.

Both will be a bigot and a religeous nut?

[Razorsedge820]

Ashley was never a racist /thread

[WizenSlinky0]

Yes. It's why Shepard fell in love with her. To purge the galaxy of aliens.


...right?

...........come on, right?

[Insom]

She's not a racist she's a human nationalist.

[Bad King]

BickDutt wrote...

Ashley and Kaidan will be the same character.

With one voice actor for both.

[Chaos Gate]

No, because she wasn't a racist in ME1.

Kadzin wrote...

BickDutt wrote...

Ashley and Kaidan will be the same character.

Both will be a bigot and a religeous nut?

If you really saw this, then they are probably your own projections screened out onto society. But psychology 101 will tell you that you are probably in self-denial about such emanations.

[Cainne Chapel]

She isn't racist... she's a Xenophobe...(I think i spelled that right). In any case.

Lets hope her time serving with alien crewmembers has broadened her view of the cosmos.

[Warkupo]

She's actually just argumentative. If I call her out for being a racist she'll justify her racism. If I side with her on being a racist, she calls me racist and denies being one.

Can't win with this chick.

[Stardusk78]

Insom wrote...

She's not a racist she's a human nationalist.

So are the guys at Storm Front.

[DaringMoosejaw]

It's called tribalism. Every human being exhibits it, even those who proclaim themselves to be holy defenders of the oppressed. Everybody doesn't like some group to varying degrees for various prejudicial reasons, whether they be of a different race, nationality, religion, political affiliation, football fan or class. Human beings fear others that aren't like them, compress entire groups into a box and paint them all the same to make them easier to understand. Not going to change.

Modifié par DaringMoosejaw, 14 juin 2011 - 12:31 .

[jamesp81]

I don't see why she would, seeing how she wasn't in the first game.

[Stardusk78]

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

It's called tribalism. Every human being exhibits it, even those who proclaim themselves to be holy defenders of the oppressed. Everybody doesn't like some group to varying degrees for various prejudicial reasons, whether they be of a different race, nationality, political affiliation, football fan or class.

I agree. It's all tribalism, the worst of our evolutionary traits in modern times.

[jamesp81]

Stardusk78 wrote...

Insom wrote...

She's not a racist she's a human nationalist.

So are the guys at Storm Front.

This is skirting quite close to Godwin's Law, you know.

And yes, the guys at Storm Front are racists.

[mya11]

Ashley is no rascit, she was affraid by aliens by her long passe with grand father, if you romance her in mass effect 1 she can change her opinion

Modifié par mya11, 14 juin 2011 - 12:33 .

[marshalleck]

She doesn't trust an alien government to take care of humanity. That doesn't make her racist, it makes her pretty damned intelligent.

[Shepard Lives]

Pretty sure OP is trolling. However, a number of people in the thread are not, so let me ask you one thing.

How is she a racist?

By "racist" (or xenophobic, as the case may be) , I mean someone who considers themselves (and/or a particular group of people) to be inherently superior, physically and/or intellectually, to another or several other groups of individuals. I think we can agree on this definition.
Now, I don't know about you guys, but I have never seen any evidence of her being like that.

Does she think aliens are inferior to humans? Does she not express her disgust towards pro-human extremist groups such as Terra Firma and Cerberus?

When asked to express her POV, she makes an excellent analogy ("if you were attacked by a bear, you would tell your dog to fight it, even if you love your dog, because he is not human.") explaining that however much aliens may want to work with humanity, they will always put their interests above ours. It's true, and also natural to a degree.

She should be considered distrustful towards aliens at worst, and pragmatic at best.

As for her "I can't tell the aliens from the animals" remark... have you ever said something rashly, maybe because you were feeling uneasy or intimidated, something that you found stupid afterwards? I'm sure you have. I think that's the case with the aforementioned remark.

Really, she's not nearly as close-minded as the people who call her out on being close-minded.

[FlyingWalrus]

I might be slightly xenophobic too if my family's first encounter with an extraterrestrial species happened to be a race of militant, sabre-rattling, shoot-first-ask-later idiots like the Turians.

Just saying.

[Insom]

Hating aliens is like hating dogs or cats or monkeys. Not the same species, not racist.

[Seboist]

marshalleck wrote...

She doesn't trust an alien government to take care of humanity. That doesn't make her racist, it makes her pretty damned intelligent.

She was also smart with her suspicion of letting a thug mercenary Krogan and a hot headed Turian cop roam around unchecked in a state of the art Alliance ship.

[FlyingWalrus]

Seboist wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

She doesn't trust an alien government to take care of humanity. That doesn't make her racist, it makes her pretty damned intelligent.

She was also smart with her suspicion of letting a thug mercenary Krogan and a hot headed Turian cop roam around unchecked in a state of the art Alliance ship.

Actually, she kept an eye on them by staying in the hangar when there were clearly nicer places on the Normandy to be.