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[Warkupo]

There's a cut off age for when you're likely to see children getting mushed due to various laws making it illegal for media to depict violence against children.

Fallout 1, I beleive, has a notorious example of this law taking place. Some developer decided to just 'remove' children from the game so that you couldn't do harm to them. Except that those children still STEAL from you, despite having become invisible. So now you're inventory will just randomly go missing and you have no idea why.

[marshalleck]

Warkupo wrote...

There's a cut off age for when you're likely to see children getting mushed due to various laws making it illegal for media to depict violence against children.

Fallout 1, I beleive, has a notorious example of this law taking place. Some developer decided to just 'remove' children from the game so that you couldn't do harm to them. Except that those children still STEAL from you, despite having become invisible. So now you're inventory will just randomly go missing and you have no idea why.

That's seriously annoying. Fortunately a number of community patches fix it.

[Waltzingbear]

Killing small children isn't a game- it's a serious business, trust me.*Muhahaha*

Seriously now, anyone said Bioshock? Killing little girls is like all that you do, when you're not busy killing mutants that is.

[Warkupo]

marshalleck wrote...

Warkupo wrote...

There's a cut off age for when you're likely to see children getting mushed due to various laws making it illegal for media to depict violence against children.

Fallout 1, I beleive, has a notorious example of this law taking place. Some developer decided to just 'remove' children from the game so that you couldn't do harm to them. Except that those children still STEAL from you, despite having become invisible. So now you're inventory will just randomly go missing and you have no idea why.

That's seriously annoying. Fortunately a number of community patches fix it.

Yeah, they did a pretty good job in that regard. Just don't ever mention Fallout 3 around them or they get out the pitchforks.

I'm getting off topic, though.

[Oblivious]

-Skorpious- wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

PD ORTA wrote...

-Skorpious- wrote...

No offense, but the title pretty much spoils a pretty shocking part of ME3 - you may want to change it to something more...subtle for those who have the pleasure of not knowing what happens to the child. =p

I agree. I didn't know that the kid dies until I saw the thread title, then it was obvious what it was refering to.

Thats because the kid doesn't die. At least it wasn't confirmed. Topic creator is speculating he dies and there are also other theories like he's a hallucination or ghost. Nothing in these forums is spoilers

True, he didn't link a source, but more information on the topic can be found (SPOILERS INSIDE) here.

I stand corrected, thank you for posting the link:wizard: Although the author did make me facepalm at the sentimentality and I am a bit dissapointed we won't be able to see the kids face when he realized he was about to die.

[Warkupo]

Just so we're clear, it's okay to IMPLY a kid is dead. Showing him getting into a star ship and then it exploding is perfectly fine. Putting children toys around an indistinguishable murder scene is okay. What is a no-no is when you actually show a child getting stabbed or mutilated or something.

[Oblivious]

Warkupo wrote...

Just so we're clear, it's okay to IMPLY a kid is dead. Showing him getting into a star ship and then it exploding is perfectly fine. Putting children toys around an indistinguishable murder scene is okay. What is a no-no is when you actually show a child getting stabbed or mutilated or something.

Correct. Just like how its ok to show a mans chest or have a man completely naked (I know Saturday Morning Cartoons have been showing male butts as a running gag for decades now) but showing anything related to the female anatomy is taboo.

Society is ruled by hypocrites and the rest of us are just in it for the ride

[CroGamer002]

RoninOmega wrote...
Some people include it, some don't, in reality however, children are not invincible from being killed...  So deal with it, no one asked for your opinions, only if you knew other games that include this.

I don't need to see children getting killed to know they're getting killed.

Also I didn't asked why would anyone put that in game/movie/book, but why would anyone WANT to see that?

hhh89 wrote...

I don't want to kill children in-game (but Idon't care if someone wants to), but see some children die like in ME3 isn't something bad, at least in my opinion. Children die during war. It could add realism.

It would but seeing them getting killed would be too much.
See a dead child( but not massacred) or off-screen kill? More then enough for realism, very emotional and tasteful scene.

Also like I said to previous guy question was why would anyone see that?

[matt-bassist]

THere i changed the name of the damn thread. Geez.

[Oblivious]

matt-bassist wrote...

THere i changed the name of the damn thread. Geez.

:lol:

Always find it funny that people scream about spoilers when it only happens in the first 5-10 minutes of a game. Like how Jenkins died in ME1 and people were screaming about spoilers or how Zeus betrayed you in God of War 2 and people were furious that the game was ruined.

[Oblivious]

Mesina2 wrote...

I don't need to see children getting killed to know they're getting killed.

Also I didn't asked why would anyone put that in game/movie/book, but why would anyone WANT to see that?

It's not that people want to see that any more than they want to see fully grown men getting stabbed or gunned down or ran over. It's just that when people buy a certain game (war games for example) they expect the game to truly cover war. That means dead men, dead women, dead children, hell add dead cows and dogs. When people buy "do anything go anywhere" games they expect the option to murder kids just like they have the option to murder the sick and the elderly.

t makes absolutely no sense for adults to be the only victims in games when kids suffer more than anyone else. Gives a "pretty" picture to war knowing that only fully grown men with guns will be injured. If people don't have the stomach for watching a kid get shot in the face then they really shouldn't be purchasing a Mature-rated game and should stick to playing Finding Nemo.

[shinobi602]

"Game ruining"? Seriously?

[PD ORTA]

shinobi602 wrote...

"Game ruining"? Seriously?

LOL. Just a bit dramatic.

[dreman9999]

In war, people die. Children are people. And they sure can die. So as long as it's not you doing it, it's not a horror. It's a shame but it happens.

[RAF1940]

I really hope ME3 doesn't catch crap for this.


Btw, could someone link me to this clip? Never saw it.

[Darkhour]

Oblivious wrote...

matt-bassist wrote...

THere i changed the name of the damn thread. Geez.

:lol:

Always find it funny that people scream about spoilers when it only happens in the first 5-10 minutes of a game. Like how Jenkins died in ME1 and people were screaming about spoilers or how Zeus betrayed you in God of War 2 and people were furious that the game was ruined.

I think are offended by the sheer idiocy of saying, "Step through this door and the party will begin *surprise birthday party spoiler*"

[Oblivious]

Darkhour wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

matt-bassist wrote...

THere i changed the name of the damn thread. Geez.

:lol:

Always find it funny that people scream about spoilers when it only happens in the first 5-10 minutes of a game. Like how Jenkins died in ME1 and people were screaming about spoilers or how Zeus betrayed you in God of War 2 and people were furious that the game was ruined.

I think are offended by the sheer idiocy of saying, "Step through this door and the party will begin *surprise birthday party spoiler*"

There's a difference between spoiling the shocking twist that you're Revan in KotOR and saying that the redshirt who wakes you up (Trask Ulgo I believe) is going to die.

Using your analogy this isn't something like "theres a birthday party through this door," and its more like "your birthday is in 9 months, we already got something special in mind."

[Demigod]

To be honest ive never understood why a dead child is worse than a dead adult. Yes I understand the premis of a new life stolen but that is just as valid for an adult. An ninty year old has a much inherent value to me as a new born. They ar both unique individuals that should be cherished ( and no im not at all religious) Seeing the result of a massacre should instill the same sence of revulsion and horror if a child was killed or not. 

I understand for some people though that the sight of a dead child is worse.

Does Mass effect have to show dead or dieing children no but it doesn't need to show adults either destroyed building could surface. But in showing the death of either they are showing the wars real human cost, and in so doing giving the player a real human reason to fight an impossible foe.

No one wants to see a child hurt in a war but it does happen and the images of such do create powerful reactions look up Phan Thị Kim Phúc for an example from vietnam.

Modifié par Demigod, 14 juin 2011 - 05:56 .

[marshalleck]

RAF1940 wrote...

I really hope ME3 doesn't catch crap for this.


Btw, could someone link me to this clip? Never saw it.

Why would they? It's not the slightest bit controversial. It's about on par with Disney cartoons. 

Some shuttles (like the shuttle in ME2) lift off the ground and begin to fly away, and are blown up by one of the spider-reaper's main gun. Utterly 100% G-rated stuff. People are dramatically overreacting with this "I almost cried" crap.


 first 35 seconds

Modifié par marshalleck, 14 juin 2011 - 06:03 .

[Ghost Warrior]

dreman9999 wrote...

In war, people die. Children are people. And they sure can die. So as long as it's not you doing it, it's not a horror. It's a shame but it happens.

I have to agree. It could also make game feel more real,emotional,tragic and it would really make you hate the Reapers.

[PD ORTA]

Darkhour wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

matt-bassist wrote...

THere i changed the name of the damn thread. Geez.

:lol:

Always find it funny that people scream about spoilers when it only happens in the first 5-10 minutes of a game. Like how Jenkins died in ME1 and people were screaming about spoilers or how Zeus betrayed you in God of War 2 and people were furious that the game was ruined.

I think are offended by the sheer idiocy of saying, "Step through this door and the party will begin *surprise birthday party spoiler*"

lol. The original thread title warned of spoilers... but had the actual spoiler in the title. Also I missed the post that declared ME3 ruined because of this spoiler.