I'd want a new character.
As much as I love my Warden(s) and Hawke(s), I don't want to play them in DA3. But I'd want to find out what happened to them.
Who do you want to be the protagonist for DA3?
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#52
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 01:08
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Option 1: Mother returns from the grave complete with the neck stitches and leads the chantry in a bi-sexual necrophiliac cult that needs to be overthrown. To achieve this, Loghain is re-animated and provided access to a new Krogan developed laser rail gun which you need buy as DLC - the only way to complete the game that occurs solely on a three room boat.
Option 2: Dog. Turned viscious from the constant mindless killing of his master, in a fit of violence turns on Hawke and in the first 30 minute animated cut-scene devours him and goes then on a mission to locate Flemeth who can turn him from a dog into Doctor Who. Travelling back in time he seeks to convince Hawke to choose a different option than Kirkwall. Instead we get caught in 36 levels of killing Daleks on board the Tardis.
Now that would be innovation.
Option 2: Dog. Turned viscious from the constant mindless killing of his master, in a fit of violence turns on Hawke and in the first 30 minute animated cut-scene devours him and goes then on a mission to locate Flemeth who can turn him from a dog into Doctor Who. Travelling back in time he seeks to convince Hawke to choose a different option than Kirkwall. Instead we get caught in 36 levels of killing Daleks on board the Tardis.
Now that would be innovation.
#53
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 01:10
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My opinion: finish Hawke's tale with a decent expansion then have a new character for DA3.
Preferably with different origins and endings. (yeah, I went there.)
Preferably with different origins and endings. (yeah, I went there.)
#54
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 01:13
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shantisands wrote...
My opinion: finish Hawke's tale with a decent expansion then have a new character for DA3.
Preferably with different origins and endings. (yeah, I went there.)
I fully support this idea.
#55
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 01:15
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shantisands wrote...
My opinion: finish Hawke's tale with a decent expansion then have a new character for DA3.
Preferably with different origins and endings. (yeah, I went there.)
+1
Wrap up Hawke's story through DLC or whatever, and then brand new person for DA3.
Preferably with a remotely normal name.
#56
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 01:17
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shantisands wrote...
My opinion: finish Hawke's tale with a decent expansion then have a new character for DA3.
Preferably with different origins and endings. (yeah, I went there.)
They could do that and I'm all for it but it would cost as much as a full game and set back #3 a bit...a lot?
Since they are going forward with hawke how about Hawke in act 1, (dies) Warden in act 2 (dies) New character in act 3...doesn't die or get kidnapped and has happy rainbow ending!
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Posté 15 juin 2011 - 01:26
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alex90c wrote...
shantisands wrote...
My opinion: finish Hawke's tale with a decent expansion then have a new character for DA3.
Preferably with different origins and endings. (yeah, I went there.)
+1
Wrap up Hawke's story through DLC or whatever, and then brand new person for DA3.
Preferably with a remotely normal name.
How is Hawke an "abnormal" name again?
#58
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 01:31
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morrigans baby would make a good protagonist
#59
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 01:46
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FieryDove wrote...
They could do that and I'm all for it but it would cost as much as a full game and set back #3 a bit...a lot?
Since they are going forward with hawke how about Hawke in act 1, (dies) Warden in act 2 (dies) New character in act 3...doesn't die or get kidnapped and has happy rainbow ending!
Anything but this..
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Posté 15 juin 2011 - 01:51
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Hawke.
My Warden is boring compared to my Hawke.
My Warden is boring compared to my Hawke.
#61
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 01:56
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Abnormal names?Persephone wrote...
How is Hawke an "abnormal" name again?
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Now that brain that you gave me. Was it Hans Delbruck's?
Igor: No.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Ah! Very good. Would you mind telling me whose brain I DID put in?
Igor: Then you won't be angry?
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: I will NOT be angry.
Igor: Abby someone.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Abby someone. Abby who?
Igor: Abby... Normal.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Abby Normal?
Igor: I'm almost sure that was the name.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Are you saying that I put an abnormal brain into a seven and a half foot long, fifty-four inch wide GORILLA?
Modifié par Cutlass Jack, 15 juin 2011 - 02:01 .
#62
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 02:38
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While I like Hawke, I thought Hawke's story sucked. Hopefully we'll get DLC/Expansion and just finish his/her story and relegate them to cameos in DA3 and onward.
For DA3 a new protagonist, as others mentioned multiple origins or at least class starting points. If I play a Mage in DA3, especially considering the state of the world I better not have the same exact story as a Warrior.
Also multiple endings instead of just 1. I'm playing an RPG not a movie.
For DA3 a new protagonist, as others mentioned multiple origins or at least class starting points. If I play a Mage in DA3, especially considering the state of the world I better not have the same exact story as a Warrior.
Also multiple endings instead of just 1. I'm playing an RPG not a movie.
#63
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 07:35
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shantisands wrote...
My opinion: finish Hawke's tale with a decent expansion then have a new character for DA3.
Preferably with different origins and endings. (yeah, I went there.)
As long as Hawke's story is wrapped up in an expansion and not a 3hr DLC I would probably go with this.. if however it is not. i would prefer my Hawke over Warden or new Char..
At the moment DA2 feels like Hawke's Origin... and were just getting started.. that's how it feels like to me anyway
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Posté 15 juin 2011 - 08:35
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Who the hell calls themselves Hawke?Persephone wrote...
alex90c wrote...
shantisands wrote...
My opinion: finish Hawke's tale with a decent expansion then have a new character for DA3.
Preferably with different origins and endings. (yeah, I went there.)
+1
Wrap up Hawke's story through DLC or whatever, and then brand new person for DA3.
Preferably with a remotely normal name.
How is Hawke an "abnormal" name again?
I mean geez, if I wanted to name the character after a bird I'd call him a ****** because he sucks.
Modifié par alex90c, 15 juin 2011 - 08:36 .
#67
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 08:46
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alex90c wrote...
Who the hell calls themselves Hawke?
According to Wikipedia
- Albert Hawke, ex-premier of Western Australia
- Alex Hawke, Australian politician
- Bob Hawke, ex-prime minister of Australia
- Brett Hawke, Australian Olympic swimmer
- Davis Wolfgang Hawke, U.S. spammer
- Edward Hawke, 1st Baron Hawke, British naval officer
- Ethan Hawke, American actor
- Hazel Hawke, wife of Bob Hawke
- Jason Hawke, German-born, porn star
- Joe Hawke, New Zealand politician
- John D. Hawke, Jr., U.S. comptroller of the currency
- Johnny Hawke, Australian rugby league footballer
- Martin Hawke, 7th Baron Hawke, English cricketer
- Neil Hawke, Australian professional athlete
- Simon Hawke, science fiction author
#71
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 09:09
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I smell crossover story. But I would much rather get back to the wardens.
#72
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 09:15
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New protagonist. Hopefully with origins. If not different race options, than with different playable backgrounds. Like if you could play Shepard's different backgrounds.
#73
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 09:23
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In order of preference New character > Warden >>>>>Hawke
Let me start out a seeker, mage or templar all with different backstories.
Have the Tevinter and Qunari threatening exploit the chaos and take over Thedus.
I can either unite the templars and mages and lead the kingdoms against the threat. Join the Qunari and the Qun and indoctrinate as I go, or join the tevinter and seek to rule Thedus with magic. Shape the world as I see fit.
I know this will never happen but I can dream.
Though having my Warden back and joining up with my lost love seeker Leliana would be great too. Let my Hawke stay in hiding until the fighting finds her. She's always reactive instead of proactive anyway. If it doesn't reach where she's at, oh well.
Let me start out a seeker, mage or templar all with different backstories.
Have the Tevinter and Qunari threatening exploit the chaos and take over Thedus.
I can either unite the templars and mages and lead the kingdoms against the threat. Join the Qunari and the Qun and indoctrinate as I go, or join the tevinter and seek to rule Thedus with magic. Shape the world as I see fit.
I know this will never happen but I can dream.
Though having my Warden back and joining up with my lost love seeker Leliana would be great too. Let my Hawke stay in hiding until the fighting finds her. She's always reactive instead of proactive anyway. If it doesn't reach where she's at, oh well.
#74
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 10:06
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I'd prefer a new character, it doesn't matter if s/he will be as customizable as Hawke (male/female, looks bu no Origins, Human only, etc...). I don't think there's much more to be developed for Hawke in the mage/templars/chantry plot: Cassandra should know by now Hawke played a small part in that conflict, so why he would be expected to "solve" it?
I'm actually more interested in figuring out DA3 companions, but that's for another thread.
It would be nice, but unlikely. As much faith as I have in Bioware writers, it'd be difficult to make sure you have a cohesive plot that works well for such different characters, after their unique backstory "origins".
I'm actually more interested in figuring out DA3 companions, but that's for another thread.
Aaleel wrote...
Let me start out a seeker, mage or templar all with different backstories.
It would be nice, but unlikely. As much faith as I have in Bioware writers, it'd be difficult to make sure you have a cohesive plot that works well for such different characters, after their unique backstory "origins".
#75
Posté 15 juin 2011 - 10:50
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Assuming Dragon Age is longer than a trilogy (which it should be, it doesn't feel like it could be finished in 3 games in terms of story) I think it would be better to have a new character as protagonist. For gameplay it allows us to start anew and bring back some missed features from origins. As for story it can really explore some unique ideas:
Giving Hawke some freedom
Personally I thought Hawke didn't stand out too much. S/He suffers from the silent protagonist syndrome far more than the warden does, which I thought was kind of odd. What I mean by silent protagonist syndrome is that stuff just happens around him/her and the only reason s/he can stay around is because s/he has the muscle to push forward.
If we introduced a new character, encountering Hawke could flesh him/her out as a character better than viewing events from their perspective. If Bioware imports some key choices as well as the dialogue decisions choosen by the player to establish his/her personality, We could see how the events of dragon age 2 have personally affected the champion, and if we import his/her personality established by the dialogue wheel we can have a companion of multiple personalitys.
A diplomatic Hawke could try to see eye to eye with your decisions as well as be a voice of guidance for the NC. On the other hand, if s/he was aggressive, s/he would be more at edge, maybe acting against the NC's motives if they don't agree with her/his own (which could lead into some interesting sequences, such as placing him/her as a psuedo villain character or anti-hero)
Considering companions play an important role in dragon age, I don't feel like it will downplay Hawke's character and if the above features are implemented, s/he can have more versatility in terms of choice and influence.
Continues a theme with dragon age
The main theme of dragon age is rising to power, for obvious reasons neither the warden or Hawke fit into that category anymore. You could argue they can take a fall and rise back up to power, but I don't think it makes sense with the way the world treats them. I also think it ties in with the theme that Hakwe is retold or viewed by another person. I think a reason why the warden worked well as a character was because you got to craft their story, but Hawke felt like a set route all the way through, and we can't establish his methodology of rising to power. A new NC can give us that experience again
A better range of companions and NPCs
I think there will be two overall reaction with any new characters introduced if we keep Hawke or the warden as a new character: "ahh you're that guy, wow geez, can I shake your hand/get revenge for what you did? omfg :'D and "WTH!? you're the champion/hero of fereldan, why the heck aren't you fixing everything in the universe, you suck D: "
Not that the writers at Bioware aren't capable of doing an amazing job, but that's the logical reaction to someone of fame; commoners will be in awe, nobles will want to manipulate you, companions will note your actions and returning companions will be in nostalgia. Focusing on another character allows a character to see the fixes and flaws of the inhabitants of Thedas with a new situation going on in the world.
Something a bit special
The warden had many different origins as well as the status of grey warden to make him/her a bit more unique, but as far as Hawke goes, s/he could run for NPC. There's nothing credible to his/her name. And as I said earlier, s/he suffered from silent protagonist syndrome, so the feeling that he's special because of his/her actions is nonexsistant.
NC has the potential to have something interesting behind their character. If bioware hasn't dropped the origins idea (I sincerely hope they haven't, more customization = better) then that could be a strong backing point for the character that could affect the rest of the game. Alternatively, a similar concept could be made (dragon age: concequenses, anyone?
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An alternative to that could be adding some lore around our character. Popular candidates so far have been the god-child (yay for teenage heroes...?) but there are plenty of curious things in the world of Thedas, such as dreamers or Tevinter experiments. It doesn't hurt to make our character's interesting every now and again (just as long as it isn't the sole reason they're part of anything)
Well that took a long time to type. I hope somebody reads this rabble ¬¬
Giving Hawke some freedom
Personally I thought Hawke didn't stand out too much. S/He suffers from the silent protagonist syndrome far more than the warden does, which I thought was kind of odd. What I mean by silent protagonist syndrome is that stuff just happens around him/her and the only reason s/he can stay around is because s/he has the muscle to push forward.
If we introduced a new character, encountering Hawke could flesh him/her out as a character better than viewing events from their perspective. If Bioware imports some key choices as well as the dialogue decisions choosen by the player to establish his/her personality, We could see how the events of dragon age 2 have personally affected the champion, and if we import his/her personality established by the dialogue wheel we can have a companion of multiple personalitys.
A diplomatic Hawke could try to see eye to eye with your decisions as well as be a voice of guidance for the NC. On the other hand, if s/he was aggressive, s/he would be more at edge, maybe acting against the NC's motives if they don't agree with her/his own (which could lead into some interesting sequences, such as placing him/her as a psuedo villain character or anti-hero)
Considering companions play an important role in dragon age, I don't feel like it will downplay Hawke's character and if the above features are implemented, s/he can have more versatility in terms of choice and influence.
Continues a theme with dragon age
The main theme of dragon age is rising to power, for obvious reasons neither the warden or Hawke fit into that category anymore. You could argue they can take a fall and rise back up to power, but I don't think it makes sense with the way the world treats them. I also think it ties in with the theme that Hakwe is retold or viewed by another person. I think a reason why the warden worked well as a character was because you got to craft their story, but Hawke felt like a set route all the way through, and we can't establish his methodology of rising to power. A new NC can give us that experience again
A better range of companions and NPCs
I think there will be two overall reaction with any new characters introduced if we keep Hawke or the warden as a new character: "ahh you're that guy, wow geez, can I shake your hand/get revenge for what you did? omfg :'D and "WTH!? you're the champion/hero of fereldan, why the heck aren't you fixing everything in the universe, you suck D: "
Not that the writers at Bioware aren't capable of doing an amazing job, but that's the logical reaction to someone of fame; commoners will be in awe, nobles will want to manipulate you, companions will note your actions and returning companions will be in nostalgia. Focusing on another character allows a character to see the fixes and flaws of the inhabitants of Thedas with a new situation going on in the world.
Something a bit special
The warden had many different origins as well as the status of grey warden to make him/her a bit more unique, but as far as Hawke goes, s/he could run for NPC. There's nothing credible to his/her name. And as I said earlier, s/he suffered from silent protagonist syndrome, so the feeling that he's special because of his/her actions is nonexsistant.
NC has the potential to have something interesting behind their character. If bioware hasn't dropped the origins idea (I sincerely hope they haven't, more customization = better) then that could be a strong backing point for the character that could affect the rest of the game. Alternatively, a similar concept could be made (dragon age: concequenses, anyone?
)An alternative to that could be adding some lore around our character. Popular candidates so far have been the god-child (yay for teenage heroes...?) but there are plenty of curious things in the world of Thedas, such as dreamers or Tevinter experiments. It doesn't hurt to make our character's interesting every now and again (just as long as it isn't the sole reason they're part of anything)
Well that took a long time to type. I hope somebody reads this rabble ¬¬
