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Why isn't Ashley Williams an Atheist?


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D.Kain

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Zemiious wrote...

What is you and these false assertions? Let me tell you something, atheists are viewed as the scum of the earth, arrogant, angry, evil, demon spawn but they aren't viewed as "stupid". Most people think we are elistist dicks who only acknowledge science. and i'm so guilty. So we are different, thiests believe in things without proof, Atheists don't. Thus, shocker, we look at life very different.


Completely the oposite my friend. I think that atheists can be compasionate, full of love and carring, BUT I sure as hell think that they are not smart. You are deluded and have no proof of anything, your world is based on assumptions that are based on assumptions, yet your pride.. You are so full of yourself and think you know everything, when you know NOTHING.

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Zemiious wrote...

What is you and these false assertions? Let me tell you something, atheists are viewed as the scum of the earth, arrogant, angry, evil, demon spawn but they aren't viewed as "stupid". Most people think we are elistist dicks who only acknowledge science. and i'm so guilty. So we are different, thiests believe in things without proof, Atheists don't. Thus, shocker, we look at life very different.


Zem, please don't presume to speak for atheists in general.

Anyway, Ashley isn't an atheist because she is a theist.  Why is she a theist?  Good question.  Greater minds than yours or mine have been theists.  Maybe she was raised with theistic values and beliefs and they feel instinctively right to her.  Maybe she had a personal spiritual experience that she interpreted to be contact with the divine.  My point is, just because you have a strong desire to regulate and control Ashley's thoughts does not mean her theism is a writing error.

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Zemiious

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And you have evidence that God didn't?

Evidence of the contrary? How about the LACK OF EVIDENCE of the proposed. silly


Now all the theists debunked we can return to Ashley's character. Some of you are bringing up that other aliens do as well. Let me answer that. I DONT CARE. I only care about Ashley's character, what would make a sane adult human being believe in something there is NO PROOF OF?

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I think this OP is just trolling here.

He isnt even discussing or debating anything hes just attacking everyone who disagrees with his view that religion is a load of bullcrap; or even the people who have agreed with him but said that he doesnt need to express himself in such a rude or hostile way.

OP. Grow up.

People have a right to think and believe as they please and it isnt your place to attack them for it. Personally I think that you are an idiot and a troll; but you dont see me spewing vitriol at you.

What I am doing is reporting you. Goodbye.

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ladyvader wrote...

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Religion is stronger than ever in our real world for better or worse. No need to assume that will change in the future.

Since most people are religious in some way it would be foolish of me to underestimate them over a minor detail like their religion. The same goes for Ashley, there is more to her than her religion.

No it is not.  There are more none believers now than every before.  Espeically in Europe.  Not here in the State though, but more and more people are starting to see that religion is nothing but BS.

Any religious text, is nothing more than a book written by man to control men.  God never wrote anything.


Although you are correct in saying that religion is not very popular here in Europe, spirituality (the belief in a higher power, but not neccesarily God) is actaully very high.  Here in the UK only about 5% of people go to church but the figure for people who actually hold some kind of belief in a higher power is over half of the population.  This is why the OP is complete rubbish, spirituality has always existed in one form or another

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Zemiious wrote...

And you have evidence that God didn't?

Evidence of the contrary? How about the LACK OF EVIDENCE of the proposed. silly


Now all the theists debunked we can return to Ashley's character. Some of you are bringing up that other aliens do as well. Let me answer that. I DONT CARE. I only care about Ashley's character, what would make a sane adult human being believe in something there is NO PROOF OF?


Ask your self. It seems you believe in a LOT with ZERO proof. :lol:

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Troll in the dungeon, people.

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Zemiious wrote...

False. atheism is rising is the fastest rising minority. I'm not surprised. the longer we exist, the more religion crap is debunked. I'm not religious in anyway, do not project your false feelings onto me.


Oh please show me statistical evidence to back that claim please.

I could see it being true in the developed world but there's a whole lot of people who don't live in the developed world and just judging from the world news I question your assertion.

Now, could a mod please lock this offensive thread down

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Zemiious wrote...

lovgreno wrote...

Religion is stronger than ever in our real world for better or worse. No need to assume that will change in the future.

Since most people are religious in some way it would be foolish of me to underestimate them over a minor detail like their religion. The same goes for Ashley, there is more to her than her religion.


False. atheism is rising is the fastest rising minority. I'm not surprised. the longer we exist, the more religion crap is debunked. I'm not religious in anyway, do not project your false feelings onto me.

Just know that atheists are viewed the with same ''omg your stupid'' by a
lot of people. You are no better than theists, just different.

What is you and these false assertions? Let me tell you something, atheists are viewed as the scum of the earth, arrogant, angry, evil, demon spawn but they aren't viewed as "stupid". Most people think we are elistist dicks who only acknowledge science. and i'm so guilty. So we are different, thiests believe in things without proof, Atheists don't. Thus, shocker, we look at life very different.


So you can proof that there is no god? I don't think so, you believe(!) that there is no god, without proof... That's why i'm an agnostic.
By the way, i believe OP is a troll

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Zemiious

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D.Kain wrote...


Completely the oposite my friend. I think that atheists can be compasionate, full of love and carring, BUT I sure as hell think that they are not smart. You are deluded and have no proof of anything, your world is based on assumptions that are based on assumptions, yet your pride.. You are so full of yourself and think you know everything, when you know NOTHING.


No you just proved my statement true. we are "capable" of love and compassion, huh? How merciful of you to think we are capable of being HUMAN BEINGS.  Sorry, you've insulted me greatly today. First, you've attacked my character ashley. Then you lump me with those bone head theists, and now you deny me my human right to care and love?


Seriously you theists are like animals!!!! And everyone and their mother know you are projecting, it is you who is without knowledge thats why you believe in that lunacy you call Big counciousness. Forget mass effect 3, you need to see a doctor!


Zem, please don't presume to speak for atheists in general.

Anyway,
Ashley isn't an atheist because she is a theist.  Why is she a theist?
 Good question.  Greater minds than yours or mine have been theists.
 Maybe she was raised with theistic values and beliefs and they feel
instinctively right to her.  Maybe she had a personal spiritual
experience that she interpreted to be contact with the divine.  My point
is, just because you have a strong desire to regulate and control
Ashley's thoughts does not mean her theism is a writing error.


It seems like a writing error to me. It literally makes no sense to be a theist in that day and age. whether she was brought up a theist or not, why is theism even present in that universe?

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Zemiious wrote...

Tamahome560 wrote...

Don't feed the troll. Move along people.


Not a troll actually but I agree, this topic has blown up in the wrong direction. Lets focus on the plot hole people not the obvious non-existance of the christian God.


Looking at how often you /reply you are a troll. If you look deep inside yourself, you will know it to be true.

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Sorry, we do not discuss "real world" religion here and this is now off topic for Mass Effect.


LOCKDOWN!


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1Minsc1 wrote...


So you can proof that there is no god? I don't think so, you believe(!) that there is no god, without proof... That's why i'm an agnostic.
By the way, i believe OP is a troll



What the flying moses? Prove that there is no God? thats not my responsibility, people who believe in god have to prove he exists. If there is no proof, he doesn't. thats how evidence works. not in reverse. Silly people.

AGNOSTICSM IS ATHEISM!! as soon as you enter the field of "im not sure a god exists" ta-dah you're an atheist. congrats.