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[J. Finley]

Eleanor Rigby Rawks.

[ladyvader]

Medhia Nox wrote...

"All the lonely people, where do they all come from?"
"All the lonely people, where do they all belong?" - All the Lonely People, The Beatles.

I'd suggest that it's because it adds to the story - like any romance in literature might, but I honestly don't believe any RPG has ever used romance in any artistic fashion. It always seems like purile wish fulfillment (which, to be honest - most RPGs are - but one can dream)

The name of that song is Eleanor Rigby, not All the Lonely People.

[Medhia Nox]

@ladyvader - I know, I was on autopilot when looking up the lyrics... since the interwebs don't correct searches. Thanks for the correction.

[ladyvader]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@ladyvader - I know, I was on autopilot when looking up the lyrics... since the interwebs don't correct searches. Thanks for the correction.

It just happens to be one of my favorite Beatles songs.  You're welcome. 

[SkittlesKat96]

 It just adds to the game and makes it better...
I do agree people over obsess over them though. Mass Effect is not a dating sim and your LI is not a massive massive part of the story (people actually want endings where Shepard needs to save his LI from the Reapers and holds his LI at the end etc.) I reckon Bioware should focus on other things instead of making every single squad mate a LI for both sexes like what they did with DA 2 (seriously, if they just restricted DA 2 to having only three or four romanceable characters, some of which are bisexual then they could of pooled the time and money into possibly making two or three more environments, and add more items and polishes)

EDIT: Not that all the variety in DA 2 was bad, but you can't deny that the game was really rushed and disappointing and that the whole "everyone is bisexual" is a little bit unrealistic.

Modifié par SkittlesKat96, 15 juin 2011 - 04:37 .

[GABy GaBS]

I don't know any specifics about the other forum members, but I suppose is a concern equal to anyone posibly developed by following an artistic production. Like when you love a movie, and then the sequel comes, you feel interested for the outcome, but also concerned about they don't screw it.
Everybody feels some degree of empathy for some character, so It's ok to care about how they will develop within the logic of the plots in which they perform.

[AdmiralCheez]

Real boyfriend is too high-maintenance. Garrus only requires medigel and a dialogue wheel to survive and be happy.

Real boyfriend is also slightly jealous of Garrus.

[Halfdan The Menace]

Modifié par ModestmeNTaLmogul, 15 juin 2011 - 06:45 .

[rpgfan321]

 I see your argument and I get it. Even though I get overly enthusiastic over romance characters just not that way.
Sometimes I do get taken aback  by the 'how' of such said enthusiasm. I mean I was pretty appalled by some comments about how some girlfriends were dumping their boyfriends after reading Twilight. *shudder* I would like to think those were rumors and exaggerated.

But I see it as a great deal of credit to the staffs and actors in creating memorable characters. Those characters and event always make me remember the game as great. 

Besides as a female gamer, at first gameplay was not the most priority to buy games. It still isn't, but it was the story that interested me because it was familiar from reading novels and watching movies. But now after playing ME2 I actually am interested in third-person shooters. Because I got hooked on the intense action. My taste in video games have grown outside its usual parameters. 

It is my wish to see the enthusiasm displayed in tasteful manner as I know they are quite fictional, but eh what can one person do? To each to its own. 

One more thing. While I was surfing YouTube I saw a hint of a video of Miranda modded and it was about showing a lot of skin. And I was like "wow..." in an uncomfortable way. Also after watching the GameInformer video of Casey Hudson interview about Fornax. Yeah... Unfortunately once I have my curiosity piqued about certain topic it won't go away so I looked it up on Google. Yeah. It is something that can't be unseen. Lolled on some jaws dropped on some. 

[DreamerOfMakeBelieve]

I like it because it just takes you away from reality. It brings you to a special fantasy world, your fantasy world. You don't get hurt either.

[zeoduos]

I can't find romance outside of gaming. So I romance pixels.

[78stonewobble]

To me a really good game/movie/book/art involves you emotionally. And that goes for all the emotions from love to anger, jealousy, hate, happyness, sadness and what not.

It doesn't replace anything in real life for me but if it weren't there I just wouldn't call it a good game/movie/book/art (for me that is) if it didn't get me emotionally involved on some level.

PS: I like lennon's songs way more than the others...  

Modifié par 78stonewobble, 15 juin 2011 - 08:45 .

[Squirrel Empire]

How can I put this... Mass Effect is like a cupcake. The romance is the icing. When I get a cupcake, the first thing I do is lick off the frosting. I love the frosting, I enjoy it. What now? Now I enjoy the rest of the cupcake.

Sure, I love the LI, but the LI are just the icing on the cake, and while it might be something I dedicate a lot of thought into (I've been more curious about whom will be romancable in ME3 than in the actual plot so far) without the rest of the cupcake, why would I even have the icing? I play because I've loved Bioware since KotOR, I love their writing and dialogue systems, and I loved the building of a relationship with Carth (And silence to all the Carth haters out there). It was all something that helped me to get further engrossed into this character. Mass Effect was a milestone for myself in that it was the first time I'd had a customized character that felt like... a real character. Shepard can be anybody you want her to be. (Or him if you so please) Bioware has always done a good job of building characters, and romantic relationships are a natural part of that progression.

Now, did a fictional relationship take precedence over my RL relationships? Hell no. I have a life and have had plenty of relationships since I've begun playing Mass Effect. Trust me, I don't need any help from Bioware, or any video game director to screw up my love life. I do that just fine on my own.

Edit: And forgive me if I seem a bit off. I've been awake all night, and I'm going to give sleep another go in a minute here. Damn insomnia.

Modifié par Squirrel Empire, 15 juin 2011 - 10:47 .

[tsunderes]

Eshaye wrote...

wildannie wrote...

Lighten up! it's just a bit of fun! Romance is fun in movies, books and in games. Chatting about the romances doesn't equal solitary hearts, it certainly doesn't for me.

^ This, yup many of us are happily commited to a real life companion, dating and have real life friendships. But it's nice to talk about your favorite characters and romances tend to inspire more loyalty and fascination. It's not more different then talking about other topics on this forum. 

Though sometimes we seem to get out of hand with our sexy fan art, we know it's all for fun. And I would rather have a running fantasy with an imaginary pixel person then with a celebrity that's a real person. THAT's actually weird to me. :S As a teen I never understood my friends who would lose their minds over boy bands, favorite athletes or actor and such... Pixel boys and girls that I can get behind, they are not real and never will be.

Chiming in here. I'm happily taken with a nice boy, one who also enjoys BW games, infact. We like to bond over decisions we made in our games, including LIs haha.
Honestly though, I think BW has one of the calmest fandoms regarding sshipping because nothing is "canon" to argue over. As someone who used to be in the Avatar the last Airbender fandom I can confim the majority of fans to be ****ing nuts, especially those who were in the camps for katara/aang and katara/zuko. I don't see anything wrong with groups of likeminded people getting togethe to discuss a character they enjoy whether it be about their attractive traits or otherwise. They're written to envoke this kind of discussion, and to cll people indoctrinated is retarded not to mention insulting. So go away and let us have our fun, spoil-sport.

[tsunderes]

SkittlesKat96 wrote...

EDIT: Not that all the variety in DA 2 was bad, but you can't deny that the game was really rushed and disappointing and that the whole "everyone is bisexual" is a little bit unrealistic.

There are only 4 LIs in DA2 (not counting sebastian since he's DLC) that's no different, infact less, than ME2. Though I agree I was kind of eh about everyone being PC sexual. I don't think spending less time on LIs would have made the game any more polished or fixed the enviroments though, sadly.

[Medhia Nox]

@Squirrel Empire - I would choose a cupcake over a relationship EVERY time.

[ArcanistLibram]

As far as I'm concerned, the LI discussions are about the same as the Kirk vs Picard debates.

[SennenScale]

Because it bugs you, OP. That's why. That's the real reason this entire forum was created. We had a meeting with Chris and everything.



Seriously, if you have a problem with the romance discussion, mosey on out of the character and romance discussion forum and head on back into the general discussion. You aren't going to remove romance from Bioware games.

[FERMi27]

SennenScale wrote...

You aren't going to remove romance from Bioware games.

I wasnt willing to do that. It's a part of the gameplay and I like it. But this non-essential part is discussed here like it's absolutely vital to the story. I mean, by the quantity of information posted on this forum. Even threads related to the Reapers, Protheans, guns, future technology etc. aren't as popular as those related to romance. Maybe because adult people like to see this game more as a love drama?.. What a shame for Mass Effect, if you ask me.

[FKA_Servo]

FERMi27 wrote...

I wasnt willing to do that. It's a part of the gameplay and I like it. But this non-essential part is discussed here like it's absolutely vital to the story. I mean, by the quantity of information posted on this forum. Even threads related to the Reapers, Protheans, guns, future technology etc. aren't as popular as those related to romance. Maybe because adult people like to see this game more as a love drama?.. What a shame for Mass Effect, if you ask me.

At this point, considering Bioware's history, I wouldn't consider the romances non-essential. They've been a hallmark of the developer since BG, and they've only gotten better in each game. Face it, romances are a big, important part of any Bioware game.

The Reapers and the Protheans are pretty interesting. I think that compelling characterization is infinitely more important and more interesting than guns and technology. Bioware's strength has always been creating interesting characters. I'd rather have fully-fledged friendship paths and better romances than an extra sniper rifle or generic "Kill the mercs" N7 mission.

Modifié par TommyServo, 15 juin 2011 - 02:46 .

[SennenScale]

FERMi27 wrote...
I wasnt willing to do that. It's a part of the gameplay and I like it. But this non-essential part is discussed here like it's absolutely vital to the story. I mean, by the quantity of information posted on this forum. Even threads related to the Reapers, Protheans, guns, future technology etc. aren't as popular as those related to romance. Maybe because adult people like to see this game more as a love drama?.. What a shame for Mass Effect, if you ask me.

Yes, it's discussed here alot. I'd be real dissapointed if the romances and characters forum felt lukewarm about the romances and characters.

OP, we like the romances, but you assume too much to think we aren't interested in the rest of Mass Effect. I certainly post a lot in the Mass Effect 1,2, and 3 general discussion forums, and many of the users I see here, I see everywhere.

I've posted about Cerberus, armor, whether Renegades getting a fairytale ending makes sense (for the record, I say no), my pet peeves in ME, Femshep being advertised/maybe getting a face model, and whether the Reapers are defeatable in the last two days.


We like the romances because we like Mass Effect, not the other way around. It's part of the experience.

[nijnij]

Well, FERMi, that's a valid question but then I'll ask you this one : why do you play video games ? Read books ? Watch movies ? Isn't it to get away from everyday life ? I think the reason romances are so popular is because they make good narratives and facilitate roleplaying. They make your imagination work.

You make a good point though when you say people forget about real life when fiction gets too deep (hell, that's the whole story behind Don Quichotte and Madame Bovary), but I guess it's part ofthe appeal. I'd rather lose myself in a deep story for 2 hours than in a bland grinding MMORPG for 50 hours .

[Herbert West]

GreatPhail wrote...

Welcome to Bioware Social Network. No romancers allowed!

Just kidding, could you imagine?

^_^^_^

I took your advice, went to my happy place for a second and then remembered what subforum I'm posting on.

Modifié par Herbert West, 19 décembre 2011 - 01:34 .