Announcing the new Dragon Age novel, Dragon Age: Asunder
#301
Posté 17 juin 2011 - 09:25
#302
Posté 17 juin 2011 - 09:50
While I appreciate everything that David did to give us the DA universe, he's not really my kind of 'novelist.' I won't be buying this novel, only for it to sit on my bookshelf unread.
Now, if he were to write a book/s about Flemeth and/or Morrigan (the early years) I might be tempted.
#303
Posté 17 juin 2011 - 10:23
#304
Posté 17 juin 2011 - 12:00
stonemyst wrote...
David does Alister ever find out his mother was a mage and does it effect the da2 orlasis conflict he talks about and them wanting thier lost provance back.
Stonemyst:
Like you, I assumed that the male child in Mr. Gaider's book was Alistair... however Mr. Gaider quite nicely corrected me of my error. He said the the male child in question was not Alistair... which led me to believe that Maric actually had three sons with three different women.
Is this correct Mr. Gaider?
And while we are on this subject... does anyone ( Mr. Gaider?) know the actual age differences between the 3 sons?
#305
Posté 17 juin 2011 - 12:47
#306
Posté 17 juin 2011 - 02:36
krissyjf wrote...
Like you, I assumed that the male child in Mr. Gaider's book was Alistair... however Mr. Gaider quite nicely corrected me of my error. He said the the male child in question was not Alistair... which led me to believe that Maric actually had three sons with three different women.
Is this correct Mr. Gaider?
I have made no such clarification.
#307
Posté 17 juin 2011 - 02:39
David Gaider wrote...
krissyjf wrote...
Like you, I assumed that the male child in Mr. Gaider's book was Alistair... however Mr. Gaider quite nicely corrected me of my error. He said the the male child in question was not Alistair... which led me to believe that Maric actually had three sons with three different women.
Is this correct Mr. Gaider?
I have made no such clarification.
DUN DUN DUN!
#308
Posté 17 juin 2011 - 02:41
Imported_beer wrote...
1. In your previous books, you wrote about characters as they were before. That would allow more freedom to construct their character, I'd think. Was it more challenging to write a book that is based after the events of DA2? Especially if Wynne is a prominent character? I don't mean this in terms of "plot", I mean in terms of characters. Was it limiting knowing that Wynne was a rather strongly etched out character?
It might have been were I not very familiar with her, sure. Regardless, neither Wynne nor Shale are primary characters in the book. I only mentioned that they appear, not that the book focused on them-- so it would be a mistake to dwell on them as if that were the case.
2. Was Wynne easy to write for, given that she was mostly written by Sheryl Chee? Was there any point where you went- huh, don't know if this rings true, let me bounce this interaction off Sheryl?
Sheryl gave me carte blanche to do as I pleased, so no-- not really.
3. Do the qunari feature in this story? How about Shale? Any other DA characters?
I think I've already mentioned Shale. As for anyone else, you'll have to wait and see.
4. Is there DANCING?!!
I was about to say "no", but then I remembered this one section... so, yes, there is.
#309
Posté 17 juin 2011 - 02:43
RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...
DUN DUN DUN!
I don't think you should post such a thing without also linking appropriately.
#310
Posté 17 juin 2011 - 02:50
David Gaider wrote...
RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...
DUN DUN DUN!
I don't think you should post such a thing without also linking appropriately.
This link made opening the thread entirely worth it.
#311
Posté 17 juin 2011 - 02:55
...On second thought, you are done with the book so what is the point pleading!
Okay I have more questions, if I may? (I cannot watch the interview at work, they fireballed me). They are about "writing" and not about the specific story.
1. Did you consider other "plot" ideas, or was this the most dominant of all the stories you considered writing this time?
2. I am assuming you had a broad outline of how things were going to go, but did anything change dramatically from when you were just putting down pen to paper to when you started winding it up. (Like you decided to change the entire ending because you thought the original no longer was as appealing once you wrote down the word.)
3. What do you write on? Paper, computer, typewriter?
4. Are you the sort of writer who needs to get all reclusive, locked up in a mountain cabin with nothing but your muse, or do you discuss your ideas, bounce thoughts off others or basically what I call the "gregarious writer"?
5. Are you able to write and then let go or do you keep obsessing over what you have finished writing?
6. How did your cats handle this? Cats are usually not very supportive of their people paying more attention to something else.
7. Why was the decision made NOT to name this book after a Falco song?
8. Will we get a perspective of how different cultures treat mages?
RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...
DUN DUN DUN!
Or...
#312
Posté 17 juin 2011 - 03:34
Imported_beer wrote...
1. Did you consider other "plot" ideas, or was this the most dominant of all the stories you considered writing this time?
I did consider some other plots, sure. I was considering doing a classic adventure, nothing political... but then I decided that would be silly, as I happen to like political intrigue.
2. I am assuming you had a broad outline of how things were going to go, but did anything change dramatically from when you were just putting down pen to paper to when you started winding it up. (Like you decided to change the entire ending because you thought the original no longer was as appealing once you wrote down the word.)
Two things changed dramatically, yes, primarily because the characters refused to cooperate with my very detailed and organized outline. Stupid, uncooperative characters! So fine. I'll change the outline. Dammit.
3. What do you write on? Paper, computer, typewriter?
Computer. Do people still write on paper? I've tried... I require words to appear with a certain speed, or I get frustrated. My manual writing has also become incredibly sloppy, probably from lack of practice.
4. Are you the sort of writer who needs to get all reclusive, locked up in a mountain cabin with nothing but your muse, or do you discuss your ideas, bounce thoughts off others or basically what I call the "gregarious writer"?
Elements of both. I require sounding boards to brainstorm with at the beginning, then once I'm in the thick of things I just need a couple of trusted friends (trusted because I know they'll tell me it's crap when it's crap) to read what I'm producing while I'm producing it. Beyond that, I don't want to talk to anyone. I vanish off the face of the earth, and my friends wonder where I've gone.
Well, that's a lie. They all know where I am. THey're very patient.
5. Are you able to write and then let go or do you keep obsessing over what you have finished writing?
I obsess while I'm writing. Once I'm done, I'm done. I have very little possessiveness over my writing, learned from years of working on video games where I have only a certain amount of influence over what I'm producing. In games, there are many restrictions beyond what I can simply dream up, and the story is likely to be forced to change by virtue of things completely outside my control (things getting cut, budgets, etc.). So I'm used to letting go.
6. How did your cats handle this? Cats are usually not very supportive of their people paying more attention to something else.
Helo sleeps on the back of my chair while I'm writing, generally ending up on my neck (and falling down whenever I get up-- though it never stops him from doing it again 10 minutes later). Ajax pretends to ignore me and not care. Both of them have Cori to turn to, so she tends to get mobbed a lot while I'm writing ("lovemelovemelovemeOMGloveme" as she puts it).
7. Why was the decision made NOT to name this book after a Falco song?
Because too many people would wonder who the hell Amadeus was.
8. Will we get a perspective of how different cultures treat mages?
You'll see how things work in Val Royeaux, sure.
#313
Posté 17 juin 2011 - 03:42
David Gaider wrote...
Because too many people would wonder who the hell Amadeus was.
#314
Posté 17 juin 2011 - 03:49
Upsettingshorts wrote...
Sylvius the Mad wrote...
I find no fault with the writing of DA2.
You must have missed David Gaider's reprehensible anti-mage agenda!
I don't think anyone missed the ham-fisted representation of templars and mages in DA2, or the people who wished there was a third option to leave Kirkwall altogether for the idiocy that was displayed by so many characters on both sides. Like this scene with Cullen.
#315
Posté 17 juin 2011 - 03:51
Luckily for me leaving the thread is an available first option.
#316
Posté 17 juin 2011 - 03:53
#317
Posté 17 juin 2011 - 03:54
ipgd wrote...
All we need now is IanPolaris to show up, then this thread will be complete!
Upsettingshorts brought up Dragon Age 2, and I replied to his comment. It's as simple as that. I disagreed with him. We're presented with a linear storyline with no meaningful choices and a reactive protagonist who doesn't even bother to investigate his own mother's death when he discovers evidence of Quentin having an accomplice, and a dichotomy between two factions that seem more like cardboard cutout villains than actual people. Not to mention the fact that Hawke can warn Cullen about Anders' plot against the Chantry - who is standing right next to Hawke, no less - and Cullen does nothing.
Modifié par LobselVith8, 17 juin 2011 - 04:03 .
#318
Posté 17 juin 2011 - 04:05
However this thread is about an upcoming book, so isn't there some place where people who loathed the game can go and kind of ...have a hate orgy? Release is healthy and you should have the chance to express that hate. But the entire "extrapolation of book by my gaming experience" is kind of reach aroun...I mean reaching.
Modifié par Imported_beer, 17 juin 2011 - 04:06 .
#319
Posté 17 juin 2011 - 04:07
#320
Posté 17 juin 2011 - 04:14
Imported_beer wrote...
Mundane, tired and unoriginal (#126? #4,760?) comment to protest how unoriginal/uncreative the game is. Oh the irony. *yawn*
Yes, warning a templar about an apostate planning to attack the Chantry, and having the templar respond by doing absolutely nothing about it, is clearly not an issue with the story.
#321
Posté 17 juin 2011 - 04:18
He actually didn't, but don't let that stop you from bringing up the same old tired, played out, irrelevant ****** that finds its way into every single tangentially or not-at-all related thread on these boards. This is new and fresh and we will come to groundbreaking conclusions no one could have foreseen.LobselVith8 wrote...
Upsettingshorts brought up Dragon Age 2, and I replied to his comment.
#322
Posté 17 juin 2011 - 04:19
ipgd wrote...
He actually didn't, but don't let that stop you from bringing up the same old tired, played out, irrelevant ****** that finds its way into every single tangentially or not-at-all related thread on these boards. This is new and fresh and we will come to groundbreaking conclusions no one could have foreseen.LobselVith8 wrote...
Upsettingshorts brought up Dragon Age 2, and I replied to his comment.
Upsettingshorts did when he made a sardonic comment toward people who had a different point of view than he did, I simply chose to address why I disagreed with his comment. You're welcome to disagree, of course.
#323
Posté 17 juin 2011 - 04:23
Yes, it is a problem. With the game. But, it is being expressed in a thread about an upcoming novel. That is what I have an issue with. There are clearly MANY threads full of people expressing their disappointment with game play, character, combat, inventory, clothing, Isabela being too skanky, Merrill not being skanky enough, plot holes, lore loops, absence of Warden.LobselVith8 wrote...
Yes, warning a templar about an apostate planning to attack the Chantry, and having the templar respond by doing absolutely nothing about it, is clearly not an issue with the story.
And you and others have not been shy about voicing your complaints there.
But now, you choose to come to the one thread that has little to do with the game beyond the setting and express the same problem here. Do you wish to know if this story is also about a templar/mage divide? Then ask that. If you want to know if it is going to be as black and white here as you thought it was in the game, ask that. But if you just want to complain, then aren't there enough "I is disapoint" threads to do that?
Can this ONE thread be used to talk about the book and the writing instead of having to suffer through the "but DA2!!" rants? ONE THREAD?
#324
Posté 17 juin 2011 - 04:26
Imported_beer wrote...
LobselVith8 wrote...
Yes, warning a templar about an apostate planning to attack the Chantry, and having the templar respond by doing absolutely nothing about it, is clearly not an issue with the story.
Yes, it is a problem. With the game. But, it is being expressed in a thread about an upcoming novel. That is what I have an issue with.
And I was responding to an individual who brought with Dragon Age 2 within this thread.
#325
Posté 17 juin 2011 - 04:26
If it makes you feel better, I'm pretty sure he was just making fun of IanPolaris. He still loves you, I'm sure, there's no reason to get all upset.LobselVith8 wrote...
Upsettingshorts did when he made a sardonic comment toward people who had a different point of view than he did, I simply chose to address why I disagreed with his comment. You're welcome to disagree, of course.
I ask myself this every time I sign into BSN and the answer always appears to be no.Imported_beer wrote...
Can this ONE thread be used to talk about the book and the writing instead of having to suffer through the "but DA2!!" rants? ONE THREAD?





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