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[NamiraWilhelm]

Wooooo! Cant wait!

[tuppence95]

@Imported_beer
Thank you so much for your very well-written post on the previous page!  

Now, if you are a sane and balanced fan (I liked some stuff, I disliked some stuff, it is all a game anyway and I am not at war with anyone), you come here and are faced with this avalanche of "Gaider/EA/Laidlaw destroyed all that is intelligent/innocent/happy in me!". You either back away slowly, or stand up for what you think is unfair maligning. Then you get dubbed a fanboi just like a mythical group of others who think Bioware is made of gold and unicorns frolic in their halls. 

There's a number of players who are happy with DA2, but end up backing away from the forums.  Yes, the game has some problems, but for me, the pros definitely outweigh the cons.  But the excessive and repeated ranting by a small, but very loud group continues months after the game's release.  Even though I resent having that group's opinions trampling over mine by being presented as fact and I would love to stand up against what I see as "unfair maligning," there unfortunately aren't enough hours in the day to get my work and my play done and still face what the forums have become.  As a result, I mostly just stay in the shadows and stalk David Gaider's profile for info on what's happening in the game.  Thank you, David, for leaving your profile open to everyone.  

And back on topic ... I enjoyed Stolen Throne and especially The Calling.  I'll definitely be buying the new book.  Looking forward to it!

And David Gaider is a cat person?  I knew I liked him.  :happy:

Modifié par tuppence95, 18 juin 2011 - 04:42 .

[Zjarcal]

Good to see you're still around tupp, even in shadow form.

[GoldenPigsy]

Leoroc wrote...

I am hoping Rhys is a gay character. There are too few fantasy novels with gay male leads (hardly any really) and David is good at writing those characters.

You might want to try this.

Also: The Steel Remains by Richard Morgan, although I think it's as much of a waste of paper as The Stolen Throne. It's juvenile and silly.

Ellen Kushner's Swordspoint has male-on-male sexing, there's at least one book by Mercedes Lackey with a gay protagonist that I've read. Can't remember the title, off the top of my head.

Not common, but gay fantasy dudes aren't unheard of. I'm sure there's plenty of others in better books than what Mr. Gaider is capable of writing. You ought to seek those out.

[Nerevar-as]

Leoroc wrote...

I don't read a lot of manga, but have watched card captor, tsubasa reservoir and code geass and most of the characters (especially the leads) were straight. I am talking about traditional western fantasy novels anyway though and hence my desire for a gay protagonist.

I guess the anime didn´t reach the part where Fay - Kurogane subtext went through the ceiling. I was thinking more of Tokyo Babylon or RG Veda. Stay away if you don´t like tragedies however. Game of Thrones is cheerful compared to that.

[Priisus]

 Late to the party but I'm glad to see a new Thedas novel coming up. I like the first 2 books, especially The Calling :happy:

I was a sad panda when I found that that the local chain bookstores here in California don't seem to carry the paperback version of Stolen Throne and The Calling in store  (I'm old school about books, I like the feeling of paper in my hands so no eBook for me). I was going to order the copies from Amazon when I just happen to go on a trip to Sydney and found the books there. Here's hoping I don't have to fly 12 hours again when Asunder is out 

[Nerevar-as]

Can´t remember now, but did we learn the name of the mage Duncan slept with in The Calling?

[LobselVith8]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

I'm still focused on how Shale will be in the book. Ignoring everything else because it's not important. Shale. Shale. Shale. Shale. Shale..... Shale...... Shale...... Shale.....



Mahogany.

You forgot Shayle of House Cadash.

[Morgora]

Imported_beer wrote...
My warden did something else! Cullen did not do anything!! I killed Wynne!! I didn't have the stone prisoner! You know what? My warden died killing the archdemon and then rose from the dead to become The Zombie Queen of Ferelden. THAT is way more awesome canon than anything any of you ever did! Do I insist that whatever David Gaider comes up with is lesser? No. That was my story. This is his.

Awesome post! ^^ Love this! ^^

[Imported_beer]

Thanks all for the kind words.

More questions for Mr. Gaider.

1. If Rhys were a meal of some kind, what would he be?
2. When you finished the novel what was the first thing you did?
3. At the time of writing the novel, what were the prevailing fashion trends in Orlais?
4. A lot of your previous novels played characters off each other- Maric and Loghain, Maric and Duncan. I liked that a lot. Does this trend continue?
5. Which Thedas land would you consider your Thedas home? I have a hard time imagining you from the Anderfels but cannot pick from the others.

[clennon8]

tuppence95 wrote...

@Imported_beer
Thank you so much for your very well-written post on the previous page!  

Now, if you are a sane and balanced fan (I liked some stuff, I disliked some stuff, it is all a game anyway and I am not at war with anyone), you come here and are faced with this avalanche of "Gaider/EA/Laidlaw destroyed all that is intelligent/innocent/happy in me!". You either back away slowly, or stand up for what you think is unfair maligning. Then you get dubbed a fanboi just like a mythical group of others who think Bioware is made of gold and unicorns frolic in their halls. 

There's a number of players who are happy with DA2, but end up backing away from the forums.  Yes, the game has some problems, but for me, the pros definitely outweigh the cons.  But the excessive and repeated ranting by a small, but very loud group continues months after the game's release.  Even though I resent having that group's opinions trampling over mine by being presented as fact and I would love to stand up against what I see as "unfair maligning," there unfortunately aren't enough hours in the day to get my work and my play done and still face what the forums have become.  As a result, I mostly just stay in the shadows and stalk David Gaider's profile for info on what's happening in the game.  Thank you, David, for leaving your profile open to everyone.  
 

I hate to bump this thread just to say "Me too," but...  Me too.

[Lioncourt87]

Loved the Stolen Throne; my top game-to-novel book of all time. Looking forward to what this book has to offer.

[MKDAWUSS]

More mages, demons, abominations and templars? Ehhh, I'll take the emperors and queens TYVM.

[The_11thDoctor]

As long as the audio book comes out quickly along side it, Im in! The last 2 audio books were definitely in my favorites of all time. BW knows audio books/ novels. Can't wait to add this one on my shelf/ mp3 player.

[Fidget6]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Wynne may have died in Origins, though, during A Broken Circle or the Urn of Sacred Ashes quest. The only possibility is Zombie Wynne, then.

So? Oghren and Leliana could have both died in Origins too, and we all know how that turned out.

[Browneye_Vamp84]

^__^ cannot wait!! Love his writing!

[nubbers666]

can some 1 be kind enough to pm me all dao story line books start to finish
or if this is the only one thanx

[Malice_Unarmed]

I like the ME & DA novels, hope they keep coming.

[Momiji.mii]

I'm really looking forward to Asunder, and this news couldn't have come at a better time! I'm currently halfway through The Calling, which I really enjoy, and I liked The Stolen Throne a lot as well. Reading books spun off a franchise is all rather new to me, as The Calling is only the 4th game-related novel I've ever read, but so far the DA-novels have been a satisfying read for my part.

Both novels fill in the parts of the overall story of Thedas and Ferelden that I wanted to know more about during Origins, and flesh out characters that I feel like I never really got to know in the game, like Loghain and Duncan, both whom I *heart* now. I actually feel like the books enhanced my current playthrough of Origins. I'm especially looking forward to playing Awakening again, after I've finished The Calling!

I find David's writing to be better than a lot of fantasy authors I've come across in the fantasy genre, and sometimes the only thing reminding me that I'm reading a "video game novel" is when the characters in the story use magic potions after a fight. The best part is the dialogue, which didn't come as a surprise as I enjoyed his parts of the dialogue in both the games as well. I also enjoy the way he develops the relationships between the characters.

Looking forward a lot to finding out more about Wynne's son! I don't mind the novels having their own book canon, because if the writer has to consider all possible choices made by all players ever during the games, well, the story would be so disconnected from the DA-universe that the raison d'être of the novel would probably cancel itself out. Who would read it, if it had nothing to do with the games and characters they came across during the games?

Anyways, looking forward to Asunder and in the meantime, I'm recommend the previous novels to my Origin/DA2-loving friends as well.

Modifié par Momiji.mii, 25 juin 2011 - 09:25 .

[MKDAWUSS]

Momiji.mii wrote...

I don't mind the novels having their own book canon, because if the writer has to consider all possible choices made by all players ever during the games, well, the story would be so disconnected from the DA-universe that the raison d'être of the novel would probably cancel itself out. Who would read it, if it had nothing to do with the games and characters they came across during the games?

It could work for e-books I think. It'd be a variant of the old "choose your own adventure" novels.

[Momiji.mii]

MKDAWUSS wrote...

It could work for e-books I think. It'd be a variant of the old "choose your own adventure" novels.

Oh, that's a great idea! The books would probably turn out shorter because of the need to write a lot more text for every possible scenario, but done right, it could be a fun read! A visual/partly illustrated or animated novel would be fun as well.

[angelo1907]

David Gaider wrote...
 The nature of a novel being what it is, it has to establish its own canon. Many elements will be similar to the game's (most of them, actually), but beyond that a book just isn't going to be able to react to your personal choices. That's self-evident, I'd hope.

Correct. The nature of a novel means it must establish its own canon, and the novel's canon has no relation to the game's canon (such as it is). If you wish, think of the novel as an alternate universe where things took a specific path with regards to Wynne or other events. How those events would have played out in the world of your personal game might have been very different. I am not, however, telling that particular story.

If one expects a novel to follow their personal choices and change accordingly, then their expectations are out to lunch.

So basically what you are saying is that the choices players make in the game count for future games but not for any other Dragon Age media.

Isn't this however the same as having an official canon?
So if we have two canons.
The Game canon that counts only for the games and the Novel canon(or comic or official or whatever)
can you clarify what IS canon for the novel canon?Who is king of ferelden for example?Does Loghain live?Or any other pieces of lore you would care to share.Please?

Anyway i'm super excited about this new novel,i loved your previous novels.
I hope it'l be a big success!

[LdyShayna]

Excellent, David. I've added it to my Amazon.com wish list.

[aragfore03]

Looking forward to it but a little disappointed that it's setting up an official canon. I know it's being said otherwise but that's semantics. I enjoy these books more when it's new characters and separate side stories that contribute to future games.

[twincast]

Orlais! Western wastelands! Wynne's son! Sounds great. It seems like I at least can keep following Thedas in novel form.