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Announcing the new Dragon Age novel, Dragon Age: Asunder


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David Gaider wrote...
So avoid any characters or reference to events completely? Sorry. I'd find that a terrible waste. If it bothers someone that much to differentiate between the two things, I'd simply advise them to skip the book.


This.

I'm really happy to hear more about DA:O characters after the DA:O events, simply because it offers possibilities for a good story. Despite that, I have no trouble to deviate the two (book canon and head canon) though, and am somewhat confused by people complaining about that. :blink:

Maybe because the first two novels were prequels to DA:O ? *is puzzled*

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Lovely to see a DA related announcement!!! I am SO getting this book. Esp. for Shale. (Luff her to bits) And I'm bloody curious about the Mage/Templar/chantry conflict.

Now all I need are DAII DLC news and I'll be a happy bunny.:devil:

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

And then there was Magneto the Kid.

Make of that what you will.


I expect the mages have a Magneto.

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...
Book canon is different from game canon.
Even Mass Effect has a book canon.


Correct. The nature of a novel means it must establish its own canon, and the novel's canon has no relation to the game's canon (such as it is). If you wish, think of the novel as an alternate universe where things took a specific path with regards to Wynne or other events. How those events would have played out in the world of your personal game might have been very different. I am not, however, telling that particular story.

If one expects a novel to follow their personal choices and change accordingly, then their expectations are out to lunch.


Huh. I never thought of it like that. Well, I guess that means that the book's canon will follow my game's canon anyway. I don't kill any of the characters off.

And what are my expectations eating at this lunch? I would hope it's something good. My expectations expect good food.


Lichen bread from Garin.

#179
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Shale ranks behind only Sten among the DAO companions for me. I love having her back.

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Esbatty wrote...

I don't care. Thats not why I'm incredibly, incredibly, damn near painfully aroused. I'm happy because I get more Dragon Age lore. I love Thedas, its a wicked, beautiful, flawed, burgeoning continent on an unexplored world filled with Monsters, Magic, Spirits, and Exotic Peoples who are not your stereotypical fantasy denizen. I'm not a fan of fantasy books and yet I dig the hell outta the DA novels.


Well said this is awesome news. Pre-order here as well.

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Amagoi wrote...

I was wondering how long it'd take! I enjoyed the first two novels, so I'm definatly getting this. I don't even need to watch the video to decide that. :lol:


But you should!! :P
Yeah i can't believe DG is making another book!!! gosh we did ask him, and am gonna get it, thats for sure.:D

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Glad to hear some folks are excited. Here's to hoping you enjoy the final product.

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David Gaider wrote...

Glad to hear some folks are excited. Here's to hoping you enjoy the final product.


Will the book be also available as ebook version?

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David Gaider wrote...

Glad to hear some folks are excited. Here's to hoping you enjoy the final product.


Oh I am!!, if you want to write about Loghain ( even tho I kill him in every play) just go ahead, I don't care, it will be interesting to see what could have happened if my warden's never actually killed him.. gosh I want more!!.. hehe well there.. now you know am a woman :P

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Dormiglione wrote...
Will the book be also available as ebook version?


I'm not sure what TOR's plans are for the book just yet. It's supposed to come out in December, so I imagine I'll know more when we're closer to that date.

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David Gaider wrote...

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...
Is Rhys the character in DA Legends? I've never played the facebook game, and I was just curious.


Nope. Not the same character.

And for those who are wondering how I pronounce it, it's "Reece".


Thank you for the response.

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Woot, between this book and the Revan book. I'll get some nice Geek reading this year.

#188
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Nice one. The write up grabs me. (And anything mage-related is a yes from me, too.)

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Well, seeing as how I just finished The Calling, all I have to say is *deep breath*: Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!

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I hope Rhys has the potential in being a companion in DA3, I'm already interested in seeing more of him!

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I'm stoked! David Gaider actually knows how to write a novel. I enjoyed The Stolen Throne, and I'm reading The Calling now.

And for those complaining about continuity....sigh...look at the books as adding layers and context to the overall universe. I do not understand why you'd kill your companions in the first place, but every one of your playthroughs essentially becomes an alternate universe. When you play the flat out evil character in Origins: Side with the werewolves, kill Eamon's son yourself, leave Redcliffe to be destroyed by the walking dead, side with Branka, defile the Urn and kill Leliana (if she's with you), etc, etc...Do you really want to follow that "hero's" story in other forms? The choices are there, but they are YOUR choices. Why is that so hard to understand?

And I for one have no issue whatsoever with Bioware choosing the most popular playthroughs as canon. EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE NOT DOING THIS.

One last thing in my rant...these are great characters. Because YOU kill them, it doesn't mean we shouldn't get to see them again. They resonate with people. There are always more stories to be told. You don't need continuity or canon to enjoy a story. Can you enjoy the Batman comic and also the Dark Knight film? Or even Frank Miller's graphic novel, The Dark Knight Returns? Do I even need to go into more comic references? (DC comics is restarting everything in the fall...all the "choices" will be reset.) Take a breath and enjoy storytelling. That's all you need to do.

End rant.

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nedpepper wrote...

I'm stoked! David Gaider actually knows how to write a novel. I enjoyed The Stolen Throne, and I'm reading The Calling now.


If we actually get to read about intelligent templars and mages instead of the complete idiots that littered Kirkwall, I'll be pleased.

nedpepper wrote...

And for those complaining about continuity....sigh...look at the books as adding layers and context to the overall universe. I do not understand why you'd kill your companions in the first place, but every one of your playthroughs essentially becomes an alternate universe.


I've never killed a companion because I took Origins from the perspective of a pragmatic Warden who needed every able bodied individual to fight against the Fifth Blight, which included Loghain, but I can see where people have an issue where their choice continually gets rectonned with each progressive game, from the expansion Awakening to Dragon Age 2. It's real silly to present a game where we are given choices, and then blatantly ignoring those choices with rectons to the death of the characters.

nedpepper wrote...

When you play the flat out evil character in Origins: Side with the werewolves, kill Eamon's son yourself, leave Redcliffe to be destroyed by the walking dead, side with Branka, defile the Urn and kill Leliana (if she's with you), etc, etc...Do you really want to follow that "hero's" story in other forms? The choices are there, but they are YOUR choices. Why is that so hard to understand?


Why is it hard for you to understand that ignoring players' choices is an issue that shouldn't be ignored? And I don't agree with your list here. Killing Leliana is self-defense, destroying the Urn can be a pragmatic move to avoid a fight with Kolgrim, leaving Redcliffe can be pragmatic if you don't want to waste time during the doom that's looming over the entire nation, and it's all an issue of interpretation - personally, I didn't make any of those choices, but I did spare the Anvil. Siding with Branka means the dwarves have a golem army, so I don't see it as an evil choice - denying them the means to defend themselves against a force that wants to eat people alive and violate women would be the evil choice in my eyes. The golems meant a hundred years of peace and beat back the first Archdemon - why would my Warden deny the dwarves a chance to reclaim their kingdom and keep the peace when Caridin doomed his people to near extinction with his selfishness?

And if I knew Leliana was really a Chantry operative who would promote an Exalted March over mage autonomy, I'd have chosen to kill her in Origins.

nedpepper wrote...

One last thing in my rant...these are great characters. Because YOU kill them, it doesn't mean we shouldn't get to see them again.


Isn't that an argument for presenting those characters for people who didn't kill them, rather than forcing a canon choice for all players? If I have the chance to kill the anti-mage Leliana in DLC, an expansion, or DA3, it's a route I would take in a heartbeat.

nedpepper wrote...

They resonate with people. There are always more stories to be told. You don't need continuity or canon to enjoy a story. Can you enjoy the Batman comic and also the Dark Knight film? Or even Frank Miller's graphic novel, The Dark Knight Returns?


I highly respect your reference to The Dark Knight Returns. If only Hawke could be as proactive as the elder Bruce Wayne was in that story...

nedpepper wrote...

Do I even need to go into more comic references? (DC comics is restarting everything in the fall...all the "choices" will be reset.) Take a breath and enjoy storytelling. That's all you need to do.

End rant.


I think it's ridiculous that DC is restarting everything. It's not going to address the failings of gaining a wider audience with women or POC, but that's off-topic.

#193
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Quick question if David would like to answer it:

Will the Chantry symbols all over Malcolm's old robes be explained?

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I hope this won't affect the writing of the expansions on any way. It's tempting though, I might get the two first novels I ever get the chance.

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Wow! This is soooo exciting! David, I just love your writing, I adored the Stolen Throne beginning to end, and The Calling was really enjoyable, too. You have so much potential as a writer and it makes me smile to hear that you're going to be working on your prose skills more!

Add in the fact that Wynne is my absolute favourite DA:O character (unpopular opinion) and this promises to be a really enjoyable read. Getting it on release day. So excited! I hope you babble about the book to us once it's out, I love reading writers talking about their novels.

Yay! I hope this book is awesome and that there are more in the pipeline :D

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David Gaider wrote...

I wrote Shale when I was stuck in a corner office that overlooked a landing that was full of dirty, disgusting pigeons every single day. There was hourly pigeon sex on the heat exchange unit right outside my window. Shale comes by her hatred honestly.


And I thought it was hard to work with their creepy orange eyes staring at me, like they did at my last job!  You'd be envious of my current office - the window ledges are slanted so there's nowhere for the pigeons to stand.   :D


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Whenever I see pigeons I can't help but wonder where all the pigeon babies are. They always seems to be fully grown when they decide to unleash their terror on society.



The only pigeon babies I ever saw got munched up by a hawk before they were old enough to fly.  I love birds of prey!  Unfortunately, the downtown area of the city I work in only seems to have one hawk.  He doesn't have enough of an appetite to make a dent in the pigeon infestation.

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What is the MSRP of the book and where/when could I buy it?

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Well the storyline summary sounds good.

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The news of a new Dragon Age novel, for me, is better than anything that came out of E3. Especially that it's written by DA lead writer.

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Luckily, both those characters are alive, so I won't have to do any weird canon gymnastics in my head. Also, the description could have literally been, "Dragon Age: Asunder - Shale's in it," and I'd still be this hyped. Because more Shale is awesome.