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[Zulmoka531]

All I know is, I'm aiming for the Turians and Krogan first. Gonna need the fire power

[Oblivious]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Please DO NOT take this off topic discussing the socio-political discussion of WWII. It was just a badly chosen metaphor.

I didn't even get a chance to use my $50,000 education in History to prove you wrong:crying:

[onelifecrisis]

Nicely done, Oblivious

[Tempus Frangit]

Because after the humans, they're next?

[Medhia Nox]

@onelifecrisis - we can disagree all day. I feel that you might be turning Reapers into magical demi-gods.

Where as I see all their posturing as just that. Yes, they're tough... yes, millions will die, and yeah that doesn't mean "piece of cake".

But the war is over - the supposedly uber-machines have lost.

I prefer to look at the Reapers like the Geth do... Legion criticizes Shepard for making the Reapers out to be more than they are. To the Geth, they're just "Old Machines"

[onelifecrisis]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@onelifecrisis - we can disagree all day. I feel that you might be turning Reapers into magical demi-gods.

Where as I see all their posturing as just that. Yes, they're tough... yes, millions will die, and yeah that doesn't mean "piece of cake".

But the war is over - the supposedly uber-machines have lost.

I prefer to look at the Reapers like the Geth do... Legion criticizes Shepard for making the Reapers out to be more than they are. To the Geth, they're just "Old Machines"

I'm not being argumentative for the sake of it, I just don't see how your theory adds up. I don't yet see how anything in ME3 adds up, and it greatly concerns me.

[Destroy Raiden_]

Because we tell them to?

Honestly though the Alliance has done alot for the Citadel races and at the very least they could extend a hand to help Earth but being as I think of the Alliance is they extend themselves to help other races but when the Alliance needs help those same races won't do the same. With all the talk about joint cooperation with the humans it turns out that path was a one way street.

[lovgreno]

Because the reapers aren't going to stop after attacking Earth. The aliens aren't stupid, they (well at least the council races) obviously know that cooperation is what realy wins in the end.

[KingNothing125]

Because everyone was there when Sovereign messed up the Citadel and blew everyone's fleet to kingdom come... that was just one Reaper.

Now that they finally have incontrovertible proof that ah yes, "Reapers", do exist... they know they have to fight them as one big unified force, or the Reapers will just pick them apart one at a time until everyone's dead.

[JetsoverEverything]

Gabey5 wrote...

What would a good case be..

from what i gather every race will be going through their own problems and defending there territory..why should they send everything they have to save humanity?



The Turians would probably rev up their ship building and defend their own space and let humanity get its ass kicked for a few weeks/years
the asari and salarians would bide time
The batarians would Laugh themselves to sleep every night
The Qurians have a fleet of junk
The Geth will do what is best for them
The elcor and hanar are minor


Will running a few errand secure the various races undying loyalty?

it should be interesting

dont the batarians get hit 1st?

[Whatever42]

onelifecrisis wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

@onelifecrisis - we can disagree all day. I feel that you might be turning Reapers into magical demi-gods.

Where as I see all their posturing as just that. Yes, they're tough... yes, millions will die, and yeah that doesn't mean "piece of cake".

But the war is over - the supposedly uber-machines have lost.

I prefer to look at the Reapers like the Geth do... Legion criticizes Shepard for making the Reapers out to be more than they are. To the Geth, they're just "Old Machines"

I'm not being argumentative for the sake of it, I just don't see how your theory adds up. I don't yet see how anything in ME3 adds up, and it greatly concerns me.

You're concerned that you already don't know the ending? I personally can see a few perfectly possible endings, although I doubt any are right. However, I don't think just because you don't know the ending that its a harbinger of doom.

[Sammyjb]

WE CAN EITHER LIVE TOGETHER, OR DIE ALONE!


.....I miss LOST.

[Halfdan The Menace]

rumination888 wrote...

Sheepie Crusher wrote...

The Reapers' primary defence is their shields and when a ship lands on a planet it has to deactivate it's shields, and seeing how Sovereign's armor faired against a projectile from the first Normandy, the Migrant Fleet's firepower is pathetic indeed

Is there a difference between landing on a planet and landing on a surface with artificial gravity?
Because Sovereign landed on the Citadel and its shields obviously didn't go down.

Casey Hudson: "In this demo, Shepard is attempting to destroy a Reaper base. And with the Normandy overhead, and a fleet in orbit, Commander Shepards gonna call in some heavy firepower"

I have no idea why its so hard for people to understand that a race that invented the Geth would invent weapons that can destroy AI... AI like the Reapers. Heck, the events in ME2 that you witnessed inside the Migrant Fleet practically set that up.

The Migrant Fleet is a 300 year old fleet,even older than the human Great War/WWI,most of the ships doesnt have shields....

[Thompson family]

Re: OP

Because they're next.

[Valmarn]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Basically for the same reasons the US eventually came to the aid of the allies in World War 2. It was the right thing to do, it helped prevent needless slaughter, they had their own vested interests in teh area under attack and leaving the attacking force alone would potentially leave them open for attack sometime in the future.

More or less anyways. I am not a history major or anything.

Or why France helped us against the Red Coats in the Revolutionary War.

@OP

The aliens aren't necessarily helping to defend earth. They're helping to defend the galaxy. It is in their best interests to help Shepard fight the Reapers, since it's not as though they (the Reapers) are going to wipe out earth, and call it good.

[Valmarn]

rumination888 wrote...

Is there a difference between landing on a planet and landing on a surface with artificial gravity?
Because Sovereign landed on the Citadel and its shields obviously didn't go down.

Casey Hudson: "In this demo, Shepard is attempting to destroy a Reaper base. And with the Normandy overhead, and a fleet in orbit, Commander Shepards gonna call in some heavy firepower"

I have no idea why its so hard for people to understand that a race that invented the Geth would invent weapons that can destroy AI... AI like the Reapers. Heck, the events in ME2 that you witnessed inside the Migrant Fleet practically set that up.

While I agree with your post, on the whole, but let's not make it sound as though decimating an enormous AI construct (let alone hundreds) would be as simple and straight-forward as destroying a Geth unit.

[onelifecrisis]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

@onelifecrisis - we can disagree all day. I feel that you might be turning Reapers into magical demi-gods.

Where as I see all their posturing as just that. Yes, they're tough... yes, millions will die, and yeah that doesn't mean "piece of cake".

But the war is over - the supposedly uber-machines have lost.

I prefer to look at the Reapers like the Geth do... Legion criticizes Shepard for making the Reapers out to be more than they are. To the Geth, they're just "Old Machines"

I'm not being argumentative for the sake of it, I just don't see how your theory adds up. I don't yet see how anything in ME3 adds up, and it greatly concerns me.

You're concerned that you already don't know the ending? I personally can see a few perfectly possible endings, although I doubt any are right. However, I don't think just because you don't know the ending that its a harbinger of doom.

No, I'm not concerned by what I don't know, I'm concerned by what I do know. I've yet to see an explanation for what we know of ME1, ME2 and ME3 that brings them together in a way that makes any kind of sense at all.

Is it possible that Bioware have some incredibly clever story lined up for us that somehow ties these things together? I suppose so.

Is it more likely that they're just going to carry on making bigger and bigger plot holes until eventually all that's left is, "Reapers attacked, Shepard fought them and won, don't think too much about the rest"? I'm afraid so.

[1136342t54_]

Wow some of the arguements for letting humanity die is interesting and not in the good way lol.

I think people are comparing the Reapers to a controllable threat that won't really attack the rest of the Galaxy. Now lets think of some reasons why many Citadel races may help out Humanity since defending Earth is stupid because Earth is basically done for.

1. The Systems Alliance is on the Citadel Council and has influence on it. Its basically pretty similar to NATO. If one is attack its very likely the other two members will help.

2. Waiting is stupid. Going on the offensive against the Reapers is better then letting them come to you. When every race in the Galaxy sees the Alliance fleet gets wiped out there not going to want to wait until the Reapers hit them they will try and figure out a way to stop them from arriving at there door step even the Geth are smart enough to know that they can't wait for the Reapers to come to them.

Now there are other reasons likely revealed in the game but the ones I said are the basics. The SA are trusted allies and it would be stupid to wait for the Reapers to come to them.

[kaiki01]

Gabey5 wrote...

What would a good case be..

from what i gather every race will be going through their own problems and defending there territory..why should they send everything they have to save humanity?



The Turians would probably rev up their ship building and defend their own space and let humanity get its ass kicked for a few weeks/years
the asari and salarians would bide time
The batarians would Laugh themselves to sleep every night
The Qurians have a fleet of junk
The Geth will do what is best for them
The elcor and hanar are minor


Will running a few errand secure the various races undying loyalty?

it should be interesting

Because it's the right thing to do?

[Faerlyte]

kaiki01 wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...

What would a good case be..

from what i gather every race will be going through their own problems and defending there territory..why should they send everything they have to save humanity?



The Turians would probably rev up their ship building and defend their own space and let humanity get its ass kicked for a few weeks/years
the asari and salarians would bide time
The batarians would Laugh themselves to sleep every night
The Qurians have a fleet of junk
The Geth will do what is best for them
The elcor and hanar are minor


Will running a few errand secure the various races undying loyalty?

it should be interesting

Because it's the right thing to do?

I was just about to say that, haha.

[Chromie]

Sheepie Crusher wrote...

The Reapers' primary defence is their shields and when a ship lands on a planet it has to deactivate it's shields, and seeing how Sovereign's armor faired against a projectile from the first Normandy, the Migrant Fleet's firepower is pathetic indeed

I don't get this. Millions, Billions whatever years and the Reapers haven't come up with a way to get around this? Just seems silly to have all that free time between genocides and not bother to overcome that cause you know any weakness an enemey finds it will be exploited.

[Heimdall]

Because it's safer for them to stop the Reapers from attacking their territory before they get a chance to?

Really, you'd have to be incredibly stupid not to go help humanity. Otherwise, they might find themselves Ina similar situation.

[1136342t54_]

Ringo12 wrote...

I don't get this. Millions, Billions whatever years and the Reapers haven't come up with a way to get around this? Just seems silly to have all that free time between genocides and not bother to overcome that cause you know any weakness an enemey finds it will be exploited.

Actually to be honest it seemed like the SR1's ability to destroy the Reaper was partly plot since Admiral Hackett ordered the entire fleet to attack the Reaper and even that didn't destroy it only the Normandy was able to kill it somehow.