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Tripedius

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I thought it would be nice to have a list of things that seem major/minor but are not explained yet a could become powerfull weapons/plot devices to destroy the reapers. My list so far:

1. The beings of light of course, sought after by a Volus http://masseffect.wi...m/wiki/Klencory
2. The sginal emitted by the Prothean sphere you find in the Firewalker pack http://masseffect.wi...:_Prothean_Site
3. The energy transporting device used by the Krogans http://masseffect.wi...com/wiki/Mantun
4. Dark energy, ofc

Anymore?

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Thorian spores. Possible applications in disrupting indoctrination. Also, if the process that causes indoctrination is part of their life processes, this suggests possible application as a broad spectrum biological weapon.

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Tripedius wrote...

1. The beings of light of course, sought after by a Volus http://masseffect.wi...m/wiki/Klencory


Already explained.

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marshalleck wrote...

Tripedius wrote...

1. The beings of light of course, sought after by a Volus http://masseffect.wi...m/wiki/Klencory


Already explained.


Not tracking.  I don't see what Vigil has to do with the BoL.

Modifié par jamesp81, 14 juin 2011 - 10:02 .


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It's a hologram. Quite literally a being of light. And it's on Ilos, in the cryogenic storage facility where almost all the Prothean researchers had their pods shut down, and expired. A crypt.

Done and done.

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marshalleck wrote...

It's a hologram. Quite literally a being of light. And it's on Ilos, in the cryogenic storage facility where almost all the Prothean researchers had their pods shut down, and expired. A crypt.

Done and done.


So you think the Volus billionaire is crazy stumbled upon a Prothean VI?  I suppose that's possible.

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marshalleck wrote...

It's a hologram. Quite literally a being of light. And it's on Ilos, in the cryogenic storage facility where almost all the Prothean researchers had their pods shut down, and expired. A crypt.

Done and done.


Perhaps, but it's not identified as such in the game, so it's not obvious.  Also there are a few discepencies between the two.

It's possible this will get brough up in ME3, just like the giant gun was explained in ME2 with the Reaper Relic.

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I just made my own thread about this (didn't realise there was already one)- here's one you missed:

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Ploba

"Active scans by survey ships have returned tantilizing indications of massive, solid structures deep within the atmosphere, too regular in pattern to be anything natural. Some believe Ploba is a "Jupiter Brain" a planet-sized supercomputer. Adherants of this theory have fruitlessly beamed signals toward the sunken megastructures, hoping to get the machines attention."

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ZehnWaters wrote...

 Also there are a few discepencies between the two.


Such as? The statements from the volus are far from descriptive. 

The only thing that's not a clear match is "created at the beginning of time..."

It could be interpreted to mean the Ilos research facility was created before volus' oral or written history traditions. Still, I think it's a much better fit than some race of angelic beings who will swoop down from Heaven at the last minute and deliver us from the evil Reapers. Which would be simply atrocious writing on Bioware's part. Also, if they were created to "protect organic beings from the machine devils" they arguably haven't done a very good job of it, if you interpret them as a race of beings with direct agency in these affairs. On the other hand, if it did merely refer to the Prothean beacons promising information and answers at Ilos, then that fits. 

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jamesp81 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

It's a hologram. Quite literally a being of light. And it's on Ilos, in the cryogenic storage facility where almost all the Prothean researchers had their pods shut down, and expired. A crypt. 

Done and done.


So you think the Volus billionaire is crazy stumbled upon a Prothean VI?  I suppose that's possible.


My thought is this. "Crazy" billionaire volus at some point encountered a Prothean beacon much like the one Shepard interacted with on Eden Prime. He experienced a vision much like Shepard's, and partially interpreted it. Maybe he got the planet wrong, or perhaps there is yet more Prothean research hidden somewhere on Klencory. Either way, I don't think the beings of light are an actual race of as yet unknown beings. It's important to note that his statements are necessarily filtered by his own understanding of the 'vision' he experienced, and not a direct account.

Modifié par marshalleck, 15 juin 2011 - 12:27 .


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With the exception of Dark Energy, most of the suggestions are, I think, too obscure. I doubt BW would finish of the reapers with something that only 1% of their players are even aware of.

In order for a Chekov's Gun device to be effective, it has to be something the audience has noticed.

Modifié par onelifecrisis, 15 juin 2011 - 12:25 .


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EJ107 wrote...

I just made my own thread about this (didn't realise there was already one)- here's one you missed:

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Ploba

"Active scans by survey ships have returned tantilizing indications of massive, solid structures deep within the atmosphere, too regular in pattern to be anything natural. Some believe Ploba is a "Jupiter Brain" a planet-sized supercomputer. Adherants of this theory have fruitlessly beamed signals toward the sunken megastructures, hoping to get the machines attention."


You gotta remember that a Mass Effect is supposed to end up being a franchise.  They may leave some of these things open for future games.

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@onelifecrisis
I doubt that Bioware would just throw these in for no reason though, It's not like them. The rift on Klendagon was a pretty minor find in ME1, but still lead to a major plot element in ME2 (the derelict reaper).

Modifié par EJ107, 15 juin 2011 - 12:30 .


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Also, I love the Ploba codex entry. That one has always teased my curiosity like nothing else in ME. I wanted to fly the Normandy down into the atmosphere to investigate. :D

This one too:

Logan:  Logan is a standard hydrogen-helium gas giant. The survey team who charted the system twenty years ago reported many strange disturbances in Logan's cloud bands, suggesting many remarkably large solid objects were present beneath the cloud tops. As the ship approached, however, they subsided one by one. These disturbances have not been reported again.

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marshalleck wrote...

Also, I love the Ploba codex entry. That one has always teased my curiosity like nothing else in ME. I wanted to fly the Normandy down into the atmosphere to investigate. :D


Considering what it said happened to the last people who tried to do that I'm not sure it would be such a good idea xD

It's probably reaper-related in some way. Would be great to have it mentioned/seen in ME3.

Modifié par EJ107, 15 juin 2011 - 12:38 .


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EJ107 wrote...

@onelifecrisis
I doubt that Bioware would just throw these in for no reason though, It's not like them. The rift on Klendagon was a pretty minor find in ME1, but still lead to a major plot element in ME2 (the derelict reaper).


Point taken.

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The Beings of Light and others are just references to sci-fi films of old.

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Has Armistan Banes been explained yet?

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masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Rothla

I think the krogans have or did have a weapon that can damage planets

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1. Beings of light=http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Klencory (they supposedly know a way to protect organic beings against the reapers)
2. Planet Junthor= http://masseffect.wi...om/wiki/Junthor (it seems to be a super advanced and ancient planet now in ruins,maybe even the place where the reapers originated or were created by its creators)
3.Leviathan of Dis= http://masseffect.wi...com/wiki/Jartar ( it might be a ancient reaper, perhaps the very first, and was betrayed or it wasnt fully completed, either way the batarians might know than we might know)
4. Jupiter brain,ploba= http://masseffect.wi...com/wiki/Jartar (who knows what kind of surprises a super sized computer might hold if it turns out to be true)

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I'd sat the Leviathan of Dis is the thing most likely to show up. It sounds too Reaper related to leave out.

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marshalleck wrote...

ZehnWaters wrote...

 Also there are a few discepencies between the two.


Such as? The statements from the volus are far from descriptive. 

The only thing that's not a clear match is "created at the beginning of time..."

It could be interpreted to mean the Ilos research facility was created before volus' oral or written history traditions. Still, I think it's a much better fit than some race of angelic beings who will swoop down from Heaven at the last minute and deliver us from the evil Reapers. Which would be simply atrocious writing on Bioware's part. Also, if they were created to "protect organic beings from the machine devils" they arguably haven't done a very good job of it, if you interpret them as a race of beings with direct agency in these affairs. On the other hand, if it did merely refer to the Prothean beacons promising information and answers at Ilos, then that fits. 


What if those 'beings of light' had to see a galactic civilization worth saving from the reapers? aka shepard uniting all the races against the reapers

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Interestingly, the Chekov's gun device was used quite a bit in ME1. You first trip to the Citadel gave tons of hints to the endgame.

But they pretty much beat us over the head with Dark Energy in ME2

I'm also expecting there to be a revelation concerning the biosynthetic parts Cerberus put inot Shepard.

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Something... just occurred to me and it BLEW MY MIND :-|

What if the Reapers are the good guys? What if use of Eezo to produce Mass Effect fields causes an increase in Dark Energy which is the force which causes dissolution in the universe (the reason we're expanding) and so they turn up every 50,000 years to stop the galaxy from being destroyed by the races inhabiting it, which also explains why THEY leave the galaxy and subside into the void between harvests... so THEY don't cause the phenomenon. Like they were created to prevent this problem and so turned on their creators and bogged off, allowing Dark Matter to re-solidify the galaxy...

It's a theory, lol.

But yeah, all these things intrigue me too.

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How about all of the above?