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[Lordgleen]

Iwas just saying that it looked like an AR in the E3 demo and it had every little ammo and if its an AR it real needs more when you think about it for the pital has 12 shots to its name, but the AR in the demo had 16 rounds. That is not much at all of a difference. Also if this mattlock is a DLC item than people like myself with no internet do not have it.

[Lunatic LK47]

salomi7 wrote...


That’s why you have teammates to snipe for you. In a real battlefield why on earth would want to have limited ammo for my best gun, it’s a stupid why of thinking. It’s more logical to carry more ammo for your best weapon then carrying multiple guns. It’s lighter so you are able to move faster.
 
I understand that they want us to use the different weapons but it’s my character so I would much rather stock up on ammo for my AR.

Just to throw something out there, Spec-Ops personnel also resort to their side-arms if they don't have the time to reload their rifle/SMG in the middle of a firefight. I ended up doing the same for both of the ME games (i.e. Assault Rifle out of ammo? Switch to pistol until there's a lull in the firefight)

[archurban]

some of you don't notice yet. mattock has option to add grenade launcher on it. so you can use it like battlefield or call of duty assault rifle.

[Sidney]

The Mattock was my favorite AR in ME2. I hope it is part of the "default" weapon load and not DLC'ed again. The ME2 weapon universe got very good but only after all the DLC content was added in.

[Bnol]

That’s why you have teammates to snipe for you. In a real battlefield why on earth would want to have limited ammo for my best gun, it’s a stupid why of thinking. It’s more logical to carry more ammo for your best weapon then carrying multiple guns. It’s lighter so you are able to move faster.
 
I understand that they want us to use the different weapons but it’s my character so I would much rather stock up on ammo for my AR.

This is not real life, but rather a game.  Part of the Soldier playstyle is utilizing all of the guns for various situations, along with the various ammo powers.  I would find the game play to be quite boring, especially considering that the soldier is such a one-button wonder anyways and the assault rifle is such a jack of all trades, especially if you are talking about the Mattock.  The only thing that limits that gun is the ammo.
 
Further, if you take the ME reasoning for "ammo" in terms of interchangeable heat sinks, if you actually ran out of ammo on your assault rifle, you would only have the ammo (or heat capacity) that was present on the other guns and would not be able to reload those guns.  Which would cripple a soldier, and it is better to just limit the ammo per gun so that at least you have back-up ammo.  But really the bottom line is that it is a game mechanic, which won't make perfect sense in either real life, or the ME universe. 

[Halfdan The Menace]

I prefer a real machinegun,not like the Revenant,but futuristic M60 machinegun with disintegrating belt feed system along with the thermal clips...

[salomi7]

Lunatic LK47 wrote...

salomi7 wrote...


That’s why you have teammates to snipe for you. In a real battlefield why on earth would want to have limited ammo for my best gun, it’s a stupid why of thinking. It’s more logical to carry more ammo for your best weapon then carrying multiple guns. It’s lighter so you are able to move faster.
 
I understand that they want us to use the different weapons but it’s my character so I would much rather stock up on ammo for my AR.

Just to throw something out there, Spec-Ops personnel also resort to their side-arms if they don't have the time to reload their rifle/SMG in the middle of a firefight. I ended up doing the same for both of the ME games (i.e. Assault Rifle out of ammo? Switch to pistol until there's a lull in the firefight)

spec ops also have more than 16 rounds in a mag for the standard AR's and SMG's that they typically use.

[TexasToast712]

NYG1991 wrote...

He's using the Mattock AR which is just single shot weapon so 16 rounds is ennough as you're not sprayying rounds everywhere.

Avenger = M4
Vindicator = M16
Mattock = M14 EBR

Edited just because FAL or G3 would also apply. They all fire the same round and use 20 round Mags.

Modifié par TexasToast712, 16 juin 2011 - 01:12 .

[Juha81FIN]

ModestmeNTaLmogul wrote...

I prefer a real machinegun,not like the Revenant,but futuristic M60 machinegun with disintegrating belt feed system along with the thermal clips...

Can´t imagine how mass accelerator weapons would function with belt feed .

[jamesp81]

salomi7 wrote...

Lunatic LK47 wrote...

salomi7 wrote...


That’s why you have teammates to snipe for you. In a real battlefield why on earth would want to have limited ammo for my best gun, it’s a stupid why of thinking. It’s more logical to carry more ammo for your best weapon then carrying multiple guns. It’s lighter so you are able to move faster.
 
I understand that they want us to use the different weapons but it’s my character so I would much rather stock up on ammo for my AR.

Just to throw something out there, Spec-Ops personnel also resort to their side-arms if they don't have the time to reload their rifle/SMG in the middle of a firefight. I ended up doing the same for both of the ME games (i.e. Assault Rifle out of ammo? Switch to pistol until there's a lull in the firefight)

spec ops also have more than 16 rounds in a mag for the standard AR's and SMG's that they typically use.

They don't if they're using a full sized battle rifle like the M-14 or FN-FAL, in which case they'll have the standard 20 round mags that those rifles use (more than 16, but not much more).  And that's what the Mattock is.  People get confused by terminology.  The mattock really is not an assault rifle at all, but it gets classified as one for practical gameplay purposes, since it'd be impractical to make a separate weapons skill just for it.  It's true that assault rifles generally come equipped with 30 round magazines....but battle rifles generally don't.  And the Mattock is a battle rifle, not an assault rifle.

[jamesp81]

TexasToast712 wrote...

NYG1991 wrote...

He's using the Mattock AR which is just single shot weapon so 16 rounds is ennough as you're not sprayying rounds everywhere.

Avenger = M4
Vindicator = M16
Mattock = M14 EBR

Edited just because FAL or G3 would also apply. They all fire the same round and use 20 round Mags.

I could make a case that the Mattock is most like the Kel-Tec RFB since those are both bullpup designs, but aside from that, this comparison is pretty good.

[jamesp81]

Juha81FIN wrote...

ModestmeNTaLmogul wrote...

I prefer a real machinegun,not like the Revenant,but futuristic M60 machinegun with disintegrating belt feed system along with the thermal clips...

Can´t imagine how mass accelerator weapons would function with belt feed .

Pay attention to the Geth Colossus in Tali's recruitment mission.  It uses something similar for it's heavy machine gun.  You can see the spent thermal clips ejecting as it fires.  The "belt" is apparently internal where you can't see it, but it really appears to work that way.

[Juha81FIN]

jamesp81 wrote...

Juha81FIN wrote...

ModestmeNTaLmogul wrote...

I prefer a real machinegun,not like the Revenant,but futuristic M60 machinegun with disintegrating belt feed system along with the thermal clips...

Can´t imagine how mass accelerator weapons would function with belt feed .

Pay attention to the Geth Colossus in Tali's recruitment mission.  It uses something similar for it's heavy machine gun.  You can see the spent thermal clips ejecting as it fires.  The "belt" is apparently internal where you can't see it, but it really appears to work that way.

Yeah I noticed that with Geth Primes aswell and they use Revenant or at last that´s how their weapon design looks. But can´t see this when shep is going mad with Revenant.

[nitrog100]

It would be nice to upgrade the heat sinks and the amount that you can carry. They're the size of D-cells and you can only carry six of them. A fanny pack could hold more than that...

[Chino 281]

NYG1991 wrote...

He's using the Mattock AR which is just single shot weapon so 16 rounds is ennough as you're not sprayying rounds everywhere.

Avenger = M4
Vindicator = M16
Mattock = FAL

Correction:

Mattock = M14

[Aimi]

jamesp81 wrote...

Pay attention to the Geth Colossus in Tali's recruitment mission.  It uses something similar for it's heavy machine gun.  You can see the spent thermal clips ejecting as it fires.  The "belt" is apparently internal where you can't see it, but it really appears to work that way.

Same thing with YMIR mechs.