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The amount of pressure....I mean just wow!


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shadowreflexion

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Searching these boards, I had to stop and catch a breath. Everyone loves the game. That rings true. But damn. If you were on the development team, wouldn't you feel a bit overwhelmed? I mean, I want a great game as well but for a moment, I placed myself in their shoes while reading and it was disturbing.

ME 1 and 2 are great and I'm sure ME 3 will be great but what ideas do you actually consider feasible?
Something that could be implemented fairly easy from a development point of view. Could you switch places? 

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Pride Demon

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I know what you mean... Everyone has the right to his/her own opinion, and it's not ourplace to judge, but sometimes I think that either the people at Bioware are saints already or are well on their way in the canonization process given their incredible patience... :(

There's truly a lot of pressure, and I'll be honest, if I were them I don't think I would be able to take it... So I'll take this moment to thank the whole team (the ME one and beyond) for creating such wonderful gaming experiences...

Thank you, BioWare! :)

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I remember in a E3 interview, the team that works on Mass Effect go through the forums and make a list of what is highly requested to be modified, changed, added, etc etc to the game. Afterwards they sort through everything and put it in accordance with what has to be done to improve the game, what can be done, and what they can come back to later and see if its a good idea to input it into the game.

I'd image the team does get stressed with the multiple threads on here concerning what they would want to see changed, added, and what gripes the fans have. They've done a good job so far though :wizard:

Thank you to Bioware for the hours of entertainment you provide for everyone on here :wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard:

Modifié par CrimsonNephilim, 14 juin 2011 - 11:12 .


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Kai Hohiro

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 ME2 was one of the most critically acclaimed games of all time. You have to top that. No pressure. 

:)

Modifié par Kai Hohiro, 14 juin 2011 - 11:15 .


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CrimsonNephilim wrote...

I remember in a E3 interview, the team that works on Mass Effect go through the forums and make a list of what is highly requested to be modified, changed, added, etc etc to the game. Afterwards they sort through everything and put it in accordance with what has to be done to improve the game, what can be done, and what they can come back to later and see if its a good idea to input it into the game.


This. And I'm sure they were a lot more stressed out right before the first game. With the fan following ME has gathered with the last two games, Mass Effect 3 is basically guaranteed to do well.

Modifié par Flashlegend, 15 juin 2011 - 12:27 .


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Pride Demon wrote...

I know what you mean... Everyone has the right to his/her own opinion, and it's not ourplace to judge, but sometimes I think that either the people at Bioware are saints already or are well on their way in the canonization process given their incredible patience... :(

There's truly a lot of pressure, and I'll be honest, if I were them I don't think I would be able to take it... So I'll take this moment to thank the whole team (the ME one and beyond) for creating such wonderful gaming experiences...

Thank you, BioWare! :)


Same here.

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The people at Bioware are saints if they actually read this board.

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They're experienced professionals, I'm sure they know how to deal with it. No need to worry about them.

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marshalleck wrote...

They're experienced professionals, I'm sure they know how to deal with it. No need to worry about them.


This.

Bioware games have received numerous rewards and recognition in the past. You don't have to go too far to find someone claiming how NWN, KOTOR, or Baldur's Gate, or Planescape Torment was/is the greatest game ever. Bioware games are always held to high standard in that regard. There's just really no avoiding it for them.

That said ME3 has some awfully high expectations. If Bioware can meet them the pay-off for them will be immense. Heavy risk, but the priiize...

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Mountaineer Forever wrote...

The people at Bioware are saints if they actually read this board.


They do.

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There is no pressure, except for the people in the board of directors in Bioware. The developers are fine, just the board and the testers. THEY need to get their work done, especially for finding bugs in the game.

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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Mountaineer Forever wrote...

The people at Bioware are saints if they actually read this board.


They do.

Extremely often.

Hah, Bioware isn't Lionhead, Bioware actually treats their fans well.

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Kai Hohiro wrote...

 ME2 was one of the most critically acclaimed games of all time. You have to top that. No pressure. 

:)


I know right?

What a thing to top. I was just going to be happy with something as good as ME2 (which was damn good so it's not like I'd be settling for anything). But after the E3 footage and all....I'm eager as hell to play this game. It looks fantastic. I hope the majority of the game is as good as Lair of the Shadow Broker and the Suicide Mission (which in my opinion are the best BioWare missions ever).

Side quests are side quests, but the main story quests at that level of quality? I'd never stop heaping praise onto BioWare and forcing the game on any and everyone I meet.

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You think that's pressure?

Three days! Three days. Three days...

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Hurt fan wrote...

Heavy risk but the priiiize indeed. ME3 can only go two ways in my eyes, do really well or do really badly. When a game has this much hype, average goes out of the window.


I just don't see how that's possible. Even if the game is mediocre,(which it won't) Mass Effect just has too many fans for it to poorly sell. People will still buy the game, even if its only to finish Shepard's story. There really are no risks other than doing damage to ME as a franchise.(Even then, future games will still sell moderately well as long as they look decent pre-release)

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Of course it will sell a lot in the first week. But then if it turns out bad, it will probably tank like DA2 did. And like you say, it will hurt Bioware's rep and finances in the long term. I consider that doing really badly.

Hopefully it will rock all our socks too though.

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to me it feels like ME2 was built around ideas that floated around in the ME1 forums. i wouldnt doubt ME3 being based off of whats being pleaded for on this very forum. i would think it might be difficult to tie the story between 3 games, but the presentation, or basic ideas and even story, minus that major plot twist are all going to seem pretty familiar to us all.

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I hope the devs take as much time as they need to polish ME3 :) I'm sure by next March it'll be fantastic.....then take a looooong break

then do Dragon Age III, Old Republic..... then a new series? O__O?

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Nashiktal wrote...

You think that's pressure?

Three days! Three days. Three days...


Huh? :huh:

Is something happening in three days? Or am I just being dim? It's late here...


Edit:
Ohhh, wait, it's that time of year... exams right?

Modifié par onelifecrisis, 15 juin 2011 - 01:26 .


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Of course they feel pressure. Especially NOW since they received a backlash and disappointment from fans over DA2. They realize its just as easy to mess up a game as it is for them to make a classic.

But, fortunately they have a solid foundation with ME1 and ME2. Neither perfect, each have their faults and detractors, but still 2 great games in their own right. All they have to do is build on that foundation, while listening to some of the concerns voiced by us, and wrap up the Trilogy in the most epic was possible. Its a tall order, but i have full confidence in them. I suspect we will be blown away by the conclusion of ME3

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neubourn wrote...

Of course they feel pressure. Especially NOW since they received a backlash and disappointment from fans over DA2. They realize its just as easy to mess up a game as it is for them to make a classic.

But, fortunately they have a solid foundation with ME1 and ME2. Neither perfect, each have their faults and detractors, but still 2 great games in their own right. All they have to do is build on that foundation, while listening to some of the concerns voiced by us, and wrap up the Trilogy in the most epic was possible. Its a tall order, but i have full confidence in them. I suspect we will be blown away by the conclusion of ME3


I wish I shared your confidence.

Based on the demo I have no doubt that the gameplay will be a solid-yet-familiar progression from ME2. That's about as much optimism as I can muster. I'm still reeling from the epic fail that was Arrival.

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A year later, having seen everything there is to see in ME1 and ME2 and I'm back playing BOTH games - that says something about the quality of the work/story and overall package. Plus it says something about having to distract myself from salivating over ME3 and having to wait 9 months for it :(

Much love to Bioware for all the hard work they continue to do :D

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onelifecrisis wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

You think that's pressure?

Three days! Three days. Three days...


Huh? :huh:

Is something happening in three days? Or am I just being dim? It's late here...


Edit:
Ohhh, wait, it's that time of year... exams right?


Nah its a video game reference. Ever play majora's mask?

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crackseed wrote...

A year later, having seen everything there is to see in ME1 and ME2 and I'm back playing BOTH games - that says something about the quality of the work/story and overall package. Plus it says something about having to distract myself from salivating over ME3 and having to wait 9 months for it :(

Much love to Bioware for all the hard work they continue to do :D


You and me both, crackseed.

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onelifecrisis wrote...

neubourn wrote...

Of course they feel pressure. Especially NOW since they received a backlash and disappointment from fans over DA2. They realize its just as easy to mess up a game as it is for them to make a classic.

But, fortunately they have a solid foundation with ME1 and ME2. Neither perfect, each have their faults and detractors, but still 2 great games in their own right. All they have to do is build on that foundation, while listening to some of the concerns voiced by us, and wrap up the Trilogy in the most epic was possible. Its a tall order, but i have full confidence in them. I suspect we will be blown away by the conclusion of ME3


I wish I shared your confidence.

Based on the demo I have no doubt that the gameplay will be a solid-yet-familiar progression from ME2. That's about as much optimism as I can muster. I'm still reeling from the epic fail that was Arrival.


I guess ME is different things to differnt people. To me, its always been about the story and character interactions. Actual combat and gameplay came a distant 3rd to those. I own 1&2 on Xbox, and ME1 was HORRIBLE with the gameplay...bad shooting physics, atrocious famerate, texture pop-in, but the story and characters were top notch. ME2 improved on the actual gameplay considerably, story was a bit weaker, but still was an excellent game. 

So, imo, ME3 looks to have "tweaked" the ME2 gameplay, so its solid in that regard, and i have confidence the story will wrap up the game nicely