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[Gregor Wyrmbane]

 Well, it's not like we weren't warned. We were. I'm not gonna get my briefs all in a bunch over it. It's only been a couple of days, anyway. I'm wonderin' if maybe they're in the process of moving the old forums somewhere else, and we may have access to them again in the future. Time will tell. Meantime, we can still play NWN whenever we want to. ;^)

[jmlzemaggo]

Words shouldn't be killed. All along the human history, letters, personal correspondance have been saved and often published later on.
When one kills such a library of billions of words in one click, he is using a power he doesn't have the clearance for.
I don't live in the past and barely ever look back. Because I know some people do. We cannot kill our past. It's awfully pretentious.
I'm thinking today about that guy who pressed that button and send to limbo people thoughts.
I don't belong to such a world that kills its memory.
Only to make more room for its emptiness.

[Lord Sullivan]

jmlzemaggo wrote...

Words shouldn't be killed. All along the human history, letters, personal correspondance have been saved and often published later on.
When one kills such a library of billions of words in one click, he is using a power he doesn't have the clearance for.
I don't live in the past and barely ever look back. Because I know some people do. We cannot kill our past. It's awfully pretentious.
I'm thinking today about that guy who pressed that button and send to limbo people thoughts.
I don't belong to such a world that kills its memory.
Only to make more room for its emptiness.

Quite profond and well said!

Modifié par Lord Sullivan, 16 juin 2011 - 06:45 .

[Lord Sullivan]

@Elhana

Where do you come off criticizing everyone for nothing?
After reading posts up to the time "Chris" posted his rather "No common sens what so ever" post, well after
reading your posts, I'm left to wonder... "Has this person even read these posts I read?"

And from where I stand, you are the one that seemed to attempt to get a rise out of poeple here.
Shame on you!

And no you're not right one bit neither are anyone that agree with your vile posts.

I knew it was coming, not that it's right (because it's not), not because it makes business sense (because it doesn't).
No, I knew it was coming because they said it was and because they simply can and didn't expect any better from
them.

Anyhow, no matter, we'll manage

Modifié par Lord Sullivan, 16 juin 2011 - 06:46 .

[Gorath Alpha]

Wake up people, get a whiff of the coffee. It's all related to account security:

http://social.biowar...6/index/7653193

[Elhanan]

Lord Sullivan wrote...

@Elhana

Where do you come off criticizing everyone for nothing?
After reading posts up to the time "Chris" posted his rather "No common sens what so ever" post, well after
reading your posts, I'm left to wonder... "Has this person even read these posts I read?"

And from where I stand, you are the one that seemed to attempt to get a rise out of poeple here.
Shame on you!

And no you're not right one bit neither are anyone that agree with your vile posts.

I knew it was coming, not that it's right (because it's not), not because it makes business sense (because it doesn't).
No, I knew it was coming because they said it was and because they simply can and didn't expect any better from
them.
Anyhow, no matter, we'll manage

Yes; shame on me for expecting this NWN1 community might be more mature than others. Instead, it seems that some expect a lot more than what is given. And I am not criticizing everyone; just those that fit the elistist glass slipper.

[Elhanan]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

Wake up people, get a whiff of the coffee. It's all related to account security:

http://social.biowar...6/index/7653193

Thanks for the link!

[Gorath Alpha]

The fact that I am not currently playing / replaying any classic Bioware games doesn't mean I will not be doing so again. I have maintained some older PC systems, and stored them carefully, that I do get back out occasionally and use for the matching age of an old game that is tickling my memories.

So I was concerned about losing those resources, but just not EXCITED about the situation, like some of those in this thread seemed to have been. I'm happy that it wasn't the cacophanous attack of a grand piano . .

[SuperFly_2000]

*Gack*...this is a disaster. Not only that the forums are totally gone now but mostly because NWN1 doesn't have a site anymore. That site held invaluable information to new users about what the game was like, how to play it, how to host a server, links, downloads....it is all gone....and I am not even talking about the forums....which held a lot of info on its own.

Now I am feeling really dumb I didn't backup their site somewhere on my computer. I had no idea the whole site would dissapear though. I thought at most the forums but still thought that they would be left in that locked state.

Now all the information about NWN1 that is still on Biowares homepage is just a few line about the game.

This is not good....

Modifié par SuperFly_2000, 16 juin 2011 - 10:28 .

[Baaleos]

In addition to that...
CDKEYS?!

How am I meant to get them now?

[SuperFly_2000]

The forum content and still some more seems to be "saved" by Old Time Radio's download mentioned in a nearby thread.

Still....THE SITE!?!?!?!

[Baaleos]

The Site content may be available for you...
But myself, being one of the people who received the e-mail about account data being stolen, have found ourselves being locked out of bioware forums, out of our old accounts.

Getting access to our old cdKeys is impossible without going to support.
And even then...
What if the hacker took those cdKeys with him?
Is Bioware going to reimburse us for the theft of our CDKeys?

[Alec Usticke]

I'm hoping there's a way to recover the information from guild forums. Our Bastions of War guild was on the top of the Most Active Guild list for years, and we had thousands of posts archived from the past 8 years. Our guild was still very active, and I was totally unaware of this change until it happened. Is there any way to get a copy of our forum data?

www.bastionsofwar.com

[olivier leroux]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

Wake up people, get a whiff of the coffee. It's all related to account security:

http://social.biowar...6/index/7653193

Thanks for the heads up! This would also explain Chris Priestley's irritated reaction (not excuse it, but make it more understandable), seeing that his company was already under attack - and often these hackers self-righteously proclaim they're doing it to harm the "evil" companies that "had it coming" to them.  

Naturally all this stirs up strong emotions but emotions and posting on the internet seldom go together very well and most of the times only make things worse. So I'd humbly suggest to just forgive and forget what has been said and concentrate on the situation at hand with a clear head and no hard feelings.

Modifié par olivier leroux, 16 juin 2011 - 11:57 .

[Mordaedil]

Baaleos wrote...

The Site content may be available for you...
But myself, being one of the people who received the e-mail about account data being stolen, have found ourselves being locked out of bioware forums, out of our old accounts.

Getting access to our old cdKeys is impossible without going to support.
And even then...
What if the hacker took those cdKeys with him?
Is Bioware going to reimburse us for the theft of our CDKeys?

What will hackers with the maturity of 12-year olds do with your lunky old CD-keys anyway?

[Baaleos]

Mordaedil wrote...

Baaleos wrote...

The Site content may be available for you...
But myself, being one of the people who received the e-mail about account data being stolen, have found ourselves being locked out of bioware forums, out of our old accounts.

Getting access to our old cdKeys is impossible without going to support.
And even then...
What if the hacker took those cdKeys with him?
Is Bioware going to reimburse us for the theft of our CDKeys?

What will hackers with the maturity of 12-year olds do with your lunky old CD-keys anyway?

Oh I dont know... Play online using them?
What does anyone do with CDKeys?

The only reason my CDKeys, and everyone elses CDKeys were likely stored in Biowares Site, was because it was supposedly secure, and 'handy' to keep them safe there.

Now it is neither.

[olivier leroux]

Btw, does anyone have an idea how to change your password here? If I try that I'm being redirected to an EA site which apparently doesn't recognize my account name and password, probably because I never had an EA account in the first place (I tried "EA classic" for older games, to no avail).

[fluffyamoeba]

olivier leroux wrote...

Btw, does anyone have an idea how to change your password here? If I try that I'm being redirected to an EA site which apparently doesn't recognize my account name and password, probably because I never had an EA account in the first place (I tried "EA classic" for older games, to no avail).

Try posting in the site help forum maybe? There used to be a way of associating your old bioware account with an EA account (or making a new one if you'd not got one), but I can't remember how and with taking down the old site the old way might not work anymore. Sorry that wasn't very helpful.

[Sethan_1]

I can understand Chris' reaction. You spend a lot of time going out of your way to do things for people, and they kick you in the teeth the moment something happens they don't understand, rather than asking what is going on. Chris, if you're still reading this, keep in mind there are a lot of folks who appreciate what you do and what Bioware has done for the community.

I'm hoping the old forums will be restored once the security issues are resolved. There was a lot of good info there, and it will be much harder to find patches and game related files without them.

[WebShaman]

I personally find criticisms of those who have really contributed to the "game" (being as such is more than just "playing a silly game" IMHO) to be off the mark. Those who worked tirelessly, for free, to bring us patch 1.69, for example. To all those who developed scripts, work-arounds, models, animations, etc!, all for free, for use by the Community - you have always had my respect and always will.

I find it extremely distasteful to see put downs on those with comments like "get a life, you are only playing a game".

Now, it is true that NWN is "just a game". Sure. But those who have gone beyond just playing, to provide free support and content for the playing pleasure of others, well, that is clearly not "just playing a game", is it?

It is correctly described as work. Some have worked as hard, if not harder, as the Devs to bring this "game" to new heights of enjoyment for others. All that for free.

A bit of respect for those is warranted.

@FA - nice to see you around, FA! Been awhile.

As for Chris, well, clearly he had a bad day. I have had bad days. I tend to think that just about everyone else has as well. I think I can let his post slide. After all, I have been hit by worse flames in the past (though not from Chris, not directly, anyway).

It happens, we will live. Life moves on.

I sincerely hope that this problem will get fixed and the Legacy forums come back. Sadly, I have not received any information regarding that last part. I see the first part being addressed, of course, but no mention about the last part.

So Chris, perhaps a bit of information about what the future status of the Legacy forums is going to be, please? Will one be able to access them again when this thing gets addressed? Or is all that hard-won info, and content going bye-bye?

Modifié par WebShaman, 16 juin 2011 - 01:15 .

[PlasmaJohn]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

Wake up people, get a whiff of the coffee. It's all related to account security:

http://social.biowar...6/index/7653193

That makes Mr. Priestly's litte take-my-ball-and-go-home rant even more irresponsible.

[AndarianTD]

I would like to suggest -- in agreement with several others -- that the thread would benefit greatly from calming and toning down any angry comments, regardless of whichever "side" folks seem to find themselves sympathizing with (if either).

Gorath Alpha wrote...

Wake up people, get a whiff of the coffee. It's all related to account security:

http://social.biowar...6/index/7653193

This sheds a whole new light on the situation. I also suspect -- with all due respect to the individuals involved -- that it's probably the explanation we would have received if Bioware hadn't been so strongly and pre-emptively slammed in some of the early comments. We had no idea what the reason for the sudden shutdown was, or whether there might have been a considerably less sinister explanation for it than what some offered. Gorath's observation would certainly qualify as an example. Until we actually know otherwise, I simply don't think that comments jumping to conclusions or asserting a "presumption of guilt" on Bioware's part are either helpful or warranted. All that does is throw gasoline on an issue that deserves to be addressed calmly and civilly.

With that said, however, I would also like to ask Chris Priestly to please reconsider his decision not to explain the reason for the shutdown of the old Bioware forums here (whatever it might be), as he appears to have decided to do in response. Chris, I both understand and probably share what I suspect are your reasons for taking offense at some of those comments. However, there are a lot of others participating in the NWN community who have neither offered nor sanctioned such remarks, who are now effectively being left in the dark because of your decision. Some of us have even been fairly strident in talking back to the (as Beerfish has noted, frequently inappropriate) criticisms that the company has been receiving on some of the other forums.

I for one would appreciate the respect that you clearly came to the thread initially to offer us, rather than seeing the remarks of a few others with whom I strongly disagree (however much I may like and respect them in general) define the response that Bioware feels that the NWN community deserves on this matter.

Modifié par AndarianTD, 16 juin 2011 - 10:21 .

[Gregor Wyrmbane]

 I got the email this morning from bioware explaining about the hacking. I've been having difficulty getting into my own email account for the last two days. I have extensive protections on my PC to keep it from being hacked. Now to my point.

You're all assuming that it was Chris P that wrote the nasty little response yesterday. It's quite possible that it wasn't him, but instead someone who hacked his account. I think I'll give the man the benefit of the doubt, and see what the future brings.

[Chris Priestly]

I do owe everyone here an apology.

When I made my post yesterday, I was aware that the websites had been taken off line for back end web work, but was not yet aware of the extent of the problem or the eventual information that is now available. I did allow some rather juvenile comments to get my hackles up and instead of just saying "we are running some back end checks and will have more information for you shortly", I overeacted.

I was not aware of the extent of the issue (no one was at the time of my post, it was uncovered by dillegient work by our website and IT group), but this does not excuse what I said. For this I do apologize to those I offended.

If you have not read BioWare Studio Manager Aaryn Flynn's explanation of why the NwN information was removed without notice, you can do so HERE.

We are still investigating what we can do next for the NwN information, forums, website and CD Keys. When we have more information, we will let you know.