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#126
Chris Priestly

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Aaryn Flynn has posted a new update.


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olivier leroux

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Thanks for the notification, Mr. Priestley! Much appreciated. :)

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Having played and been on the Neverwinter sites since the beginning I can only say Chris Priestly should be up for Sainthood. I just cant understand some of you people. After all the years I have never quite felt the urge to actually post. But this is it! How many of you complainers are over 12 years old? Because if it is as few as I suspect some of you not only need to grow up but learn some respect. I have seen people over the years get blasted and had awefull things said about them. Why? For getting a couple lines of script wrong? They put in hundreds of hours WORKING on something for the community for free and if its not perfect some little crybaby has to whine about it. Give me a break! Personaly I dont know that I have ever had the kind of support and response as I have had from Bioware over the years. Instead of complaining and threatening- I dont know what? (the game is ten years old do you really think you are a financial asset to them) Its not evil to run a business folks I dont care what the current president says. I would like to remind everybody we are a dying community, if we are not good to each other no one else is going to be good to us. 
 So from one humble player I say THANK YOU Bioware and Chris Priestly for almost ten years of fun. All for the cost of one round of golf. 

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Thanks for the update, it helped a lot and answered most of the questions I had.

Modifié par Funkyn, 17 juin 2011 - 07:04 .


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No one took the time (me included) to copy/paste the old forum data, we all trusted Bioware, which no-longer really exists as a separate entity, it is just a token name in a big conglomerate that has no bearing on what originally made them big and where the accountants see savings on support by just killing off the old stuff that they see no profit from.

Sucks, doesn't it?


Funny story that, you see people at sims 3 forums are saying a very similar thing about EA being heartless. (Thought I don't nessessarily agree) Whenever I google how to do something in Neverwinter Nights, and there's a bioware forum entry I click cached to view it. xD

Hmm it seems since we can still view the cache entries (but not forever) we might want to savage what we can while we still are able. But c'mon, the games lasted 10 years. You can't expect them to keep it up forever.

Modifié par simomate, 18 juin 2011 - 09:24 .


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WOODY069 wrote...

Having played and been on the Neverwinter sites since the beginning I can only say Chris Priestly should be up for Sainthood. I just cant understand some of you people. After all the years I have never quite felt the urge to actually post. But this is it! How many of you complainers are over 12 years old? Because if it is as few as I suspect some of you not only need to grow up but learn some respect. ~snip~


If, indeed, you have been on the Neverwinter sites since the beginning, then you would know that most of the NWNers on the forums are over the 30+ range.

Not to mention that you are engaging in exactly the same type of behavior that you are deploring.

Why would you want to "waste" your first post with such a rant?

Whatever.

On with the topic...ermmm...yeah.

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simomate wrote...


No one took the time (me included) to copy/paste the old forum data, we all trusted Bioware, which no-longer really exists as a separate entity, it is just a token name in a big conglomerate that has no bearing on what originally made them big and where the accountants see savings on support by just killing off the old stuff that they see no profit from.

Sucks, doesn't it?


Funny story that, you see people at sims 3 forums are saying a very similar thing about EA being heartless. (Thought I don't nessessarily agree) Whenever I google how to do something in Neverwinter Nights, and there's a bioware forum entry I click cached to view it. xD

Hmm it seems since we can still view the cache entries (but not forever) we might want to savage what we can while we still are able. But c'mon, the games lasted 10 years. You can't expect them to keep it up forever.


??

I don't see the Community asking for anyone to "keep it up forever" - I see them asking for fair warning of immenent closure.  There is an effort to save the information (see the Omnibus for more details from OTR).

You need to realize that such takes time.  I think that is why there were violent reactions in this case, as it appeared that the Legacy forums just went *poof!* without warning.

Action -> Reaction, that sort of thing.

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I got to say. I'm really annoyed at BioWare for requiring people to register their CD-keys in order to post in certain forums, so that when issues like this arise, we get screwed as well.

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Deserk, no one got "screwed" (as you so elegantly put it) as no CD Keys were accessed.





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Chris Priestly wrote...

Deserk, no one got "screwed" (as you so elegantly put it) as no CD Keys were accessed.





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Uff I was worried. Anyway I didnt watched this topic for a while but I got email from Bioware so what should I do? change my password is enough?

#136
UrkOfGreyhawk

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ShaDoOoW, Bio has already changed your password. All you need to do is go through the password recovery process to get it back.

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WebShaman wrote...
You need to realize that such takes time.  I think that is why there were violent reactions in this case, as it appeared that the Legacy forums just went *poof!* without warning.

Action -> Reaction, that sort of thing.

At least I'm not the only one who recognizes the obvious causality.  That about sums it up, Web.

The real issue, at least for me, is that a huge knowledge base has been rendered indisposed (although some of it was archived via the cited links given throughout this thread).  The "rights" to use this information is not bestowed by playing the game or not playing the game, but rather by virtue of serving as a contributing author of valuable resources, most of which the newer players don't even know exists.  But there are almost 9 years of NWN community effort at stake.

Since there was never any concrete drop-dead date published by Bioware, just the warning that there was no guarantee that the legacy information would remain accessible indefinitely, I, along with many others, expected that either via email, the social forum or some reasonable canvass, there would be a final announcement published prior to the manic scurrying to grab any data before it vanishes.

I hope that when our local public library decides to trash an entire section of literature from the stacks, we get more warning than a glimpse of the cloud of smoke from the discard pyre.

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FWIW, I regularly search the archive forums for NWN information and I really hope they are back up as soon as a relatively secure way can be found to make it happen. I don't need the site for my CD keys, but I hope that functionality returns as well because I understand how many people use it. I could certainly see why someone might be upset if our hosts had decided to jettison 9 years of NWN activity with no notice.

The problem in this thread is that that decision never happened but there was some reaction as though it had, mostly due to speculating in a very negative way about an event that had many other likely causes besides "EA hates NWN and is closing down the older forum without notice". I have been an admin on a gaming forum that was closed down for an extended period due to hacking. And I have seen many sites down for several days because of routine operations (hardware maintenance, data archiving, software upgrades, etc.) intended to be transparent to the users, but where something unexpected (and often not initially understood) happened and the site was "down" for a while. Basically, there were many other things that could have been at play a few days ago. People speculate all the time and that's fine, but it's unfortunate when people take speculation based on almost no information and use it to impugn others' motives.

However, I hope that Chris and any other Bioware folks reading this thread understand that most of us are grateful for the forums and that not everyone jumped to conclusions at the first sign of trouble. We were waiting for some real information and were confident that you guys would let us know what was going on as soon as you had enough info to say something that didn't generate more questions than it answered. I think that Bioware has come through on that count with the posts explaining that the boards were target of a malevolent hacker and that the boards are down-but-not-gone, as per the following

Aaryn Flynn wrote...

© What’s happened to the legacy forums, postings etc?
We turned off public-facing access to the legacy forums for reasons of safety and expediency but are currently working on a plan to bring them back in a way that ensures your information remains safe. Look for more information on this in the near future as our plans develop.


Thanks.

Modifié par MrZork, 19 juin 2011 - 02:14 .


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I lost my NWN CDs and i am registered with bioware under this nick.How can i get my CD Key back now that that the old account has been closed.Please help me..

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!@#$%^& I just reinstalled the game and almost lost it.Is Bioware trying to hide this game???How are new people suppose to install this thing if they cant find the patch.*squints*

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BW have said the forums will be back when they have addressed the issue and the patch is still available here files.bioware.com/neverwinternights/updates/windows/english/NWNEnglish1.69HotUUpdate.exe

Have fun :)

Modifié par Shia Luck, 19 juin 2011 - 05:14 .


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Please take a breath and ..then take a look at this thread in the technical selfhelp forums : Where are the patches?  okeee...Shia Luck beat me :blush:

Modifié par Mdarkbyte, 19 juin 2011 - 05:17 .


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Mods, if you're monitoring this thread, could you please sticky the thread above with the patch info in it? It might save all of us some grief.

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Winterhawk99 wrote...

you can however many of us have lost the books or have multipule games so we can be online in several places at once especially pw admins and the like. I have three sets of seperate game cd keys and luckily have them all down in a special password file.


Yep... me too. Unfortunately, the EF-5 tornado kinda destroyed my computers, CD backups, and all my papers (tons of rain -- no roof left anymore).

I have finally recovered one of my small hard drives and moved the data to this brand new laptop. I'm trying to recover my CD Key text document. Until then, I can't re-install NWN1 or 2.

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Estelindis wrote...

Thanks from me too for the update, which makes what you posted earlier quite understandable due to stress.

Also, sorry to hear of your misfortune, Chokra Broodslayer! I really does put everything into perspective.


Thank you, I appreciate it.

Things are looking up... I finally got a new car to replace the one that was destroyed by the tornado.

I'm just glad I wasn't home when it happened or I might not be here to play NWN with you all anymore. More than 154 people died in the 12-mile long and 1-mile wide path of destruction... one of my co-workers (a page designer at my newspaper) lost his life. The last month has been extremely rough.

7th biggest tornado of ALL TIME. Destroyed one of our major hospitals... we didn't even have enough facilities for the wounded. It was pure chaos. Debris flew as far away as more than 500 miles into Indiana. This is the farthest EVER that tornado debris has been recorded. The previous record was 250 miles in 1916.

About 30 percent of our main metro city here was destroyed and 80 percent of one of our suburbs to the east was destroyed. It picked up 9-ton propane truck tractor trailers and tossed them a block and a half. It ripped a major 9-story hospital four inches off its foundation and it was supposed to be able to withstand 300 mile-per-hour winds.

On a positive note, I was less than 5 feet from President Obama as I photographed him as part of the presidential motorcade and my images went out over the Associated Press wire service. He toured the devastated region and spoke to residents about their experience.

I'm currently living with my sister until I can get a new place... unfortunately, more than 30 percent of the housing is gone.

Also, I was interviewed by USA Today a few days after the May 22 tornado. They spoke to me about losing my massive Star Wars and Lord of the Rings memorabilia collections.

T. Rob Brown
(aka Chokra Broodslayer, leader of the Broodslayers guild for NWN and Dragon Age series)
Also freelance game designer (Star Wars RPG d20 Saga Edition's "Galaxy of Intrigue" and "Clone Wars Campaign Guide)

Modifié par Chokra Broodslayer, 20 juin 2011 - 12:29 .


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Baaleos wrote...

Wow
I guess suddenly my life doesnt seem that bad.
Tough Luck, Tornado, Timing, and now CDKey's in-accessible.



Thanks for the sympathy. Things are looking up. All things heal in time. I feel fortunate that I have my life and my job. It does put things into perspective for you. My family has been amazing at helping my brother (my roommate) and I through this difficult time.

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For anyone curious about the tornado...

Here are my photos I shot of President Obama touring the devastation.

http://www.joplinglo...ma-tours-Joplin

T. Rob Brown (Chokra Broodslayer)

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Known you a long time now Chrokra and feel for you. Three tornados ripped through my own home town in western pa the day I graduated high school on May 31rst 1985. We didn't loose our home but I knew many who did.

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Sorry If I wasn't clear in my previous message.I am a registered game owner with for all 3 modules of NWN1 and NWN2 with Bioware.

Is it possible to send me a valid CD Key for the products now that the old forums are down?I lost my CDs when I shifted my house and had to borrow the game from a friend.

My email address is andrnbk@hotmail.com under this nick solmyrian in the old forums.I received an email from Aaryn Flynn a few days back saying that my account may have been compromised.

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Hey, I am having the same problem as solmyrian. I remember having my CD key stored at bioware was easy for me, as I always lose my CD keys. But now that the forums are gone, is there anyway to recover it? I was planning to do a clean install on my PC soon, as I'm going to have to postpone it til I can reinstall NWN.