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#1
OdanUrr

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Will Shepard survive the Reaper invasion or will he sacrifice himself to save the galaxy? Will we be able to choose which?

It's just an opinion but I think Paragon Shepard would most likely choose to sacrifice himself if the issue came up at some point during the game. This all started with the message that was downloaded into Shepard's brain through the Prothean beacon on Eden Prime. Later on, Shepard gets the cipher as well to interpret these "visions" he keeps having. Perhaps the cipher will allow him to operate lost Prothean technology in his journey to defeat the Reapers?

Yes, in ME3 you'll have to unite civilizations in an effort to stop the Reapers once and for all, but I'd like to believe that Shepard will undetake another journey as well: to discover what really happened all those years ago on Eden Prime. After all, there is some (I'll be the first to admit it's thin) evidence in ME2 to suggest that the Reapers might be a little too invested in Shepard. Granted, he can be a pain in the butt as we've seen throughout the games so far, but a race so infinitely superior, in Sovereign's words, which has successfully culled more advanced civilizations over millennia would hardly go to that much trouble over a single human being, however remarkable he might be. Unless... back to Shepard being the only person, apart from Saren, to have used the beacon on Eden Prime.

Also of note is the beacon on Joab which "updates" Shepard's vision to include reference to the Collectors. This would suggest some Protheans must have been alive to witness the transformation of their fellows into Collectors. Perhaps some are alive still?

What's your take on Shepard's fate?

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Another would be will shep just become Saren 2.0 by the reapers hacking and maintaining control over him and will his squadmates be forced to kill him for the greater good?

I would though like a few options as a paragade the sacrifice option but also the have EDI pilot the nuke towards the reaper while I escape option. I don't always want to kill my character off for the greater good because my character loses out on whatever life they could've had afterwards.

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hmmm maybe they said there would be multiple endings and that you would be able to play afterwards.

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I'd rather not leave the LI and Shep's mother behind. Not unless Shepard expressed a desire to die/felt she came back wrong in ME2, though there wasn't much of a hint of that.

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All I know is I want a Happy Ending! Reapers defeatedB), FemShep n Garrus walk of into the sunset!<3

Modifié par Good Chaos7, 15 juin 2011 - 03:18 .


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I'm hoping there is an option, but is is basically the opposite of ME2.

In ME2 Shepard could die but only if he didn't prepare adequately and made the wrong tactical or strategic decisions. In ME3 I'd like to see the opposite take place, where Shep dies because he made the right tactical or strategic decisions.

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Aedan_Cousland wrote...

I'm hoping there is an option, but is is basically the opposite of ME2.

In ME2 Shepard could die but only if he didn't prepare adequately and made the wrong tactical or strategic decisions. In ME3 I'd like to see the opposite take place, where Shep dies because he made the right tactical or strategic decisions.

Um, your sense of causation is weird.  "Let's reward people for doing the right thing by...killing them! Yaaaay"

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daqs wrote...

Aedan_Cousland wrote...

I'm hoping there is an option, but is is basically the opposite of ME2.

In ME2 Shepard could die but only if he didn't prepare adequately and made the wrong tactical or strategic decisions. In ME3 I'd like to see the opposite take place, where Shep dies because he made the right tactical or strategic decisions.

Um, your sense of causation is weird.  "Let's reward people for doing the right thing by...killing them! Yaaaay"


The game has multiple endings. In at least one of them you should be able to die.(without having to try).

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daqs wrote...

Aedan_Cousland wrote...

I'm hoping there is an option, but is is basically the opposite of ME2.

In ME2 Shepard could die but only if he didn't prepare adequately and made the wrong tactical or strategic decisions. In ME3 I'd like to see the opposite take place, where Shep dies because he made the right tactical or strategic decisions.

Um, your sense of causation is weird.  "Let's reward people for doing the right thing by...killing them! Yaaaay"


It isn't a heroic death if Shepard dies because of some tactical blunder.

Since I'm in favor of a heroic death ending, the only way to achieve that would be if Shepard dies even if he does everything right, or because of it. It also adds an element of realism, which I'm also in favor of.

That doesn't mean players are being 'punished' for making the right tactical decisions. It should boil down to a Virmire like choice where Shepard must choose between saving his own skin or saving the lives of some of his own team.

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Another interesting idea, if he were to die, faced by insurmountable odds, the endgame could possibly be played after Shep's death. The remaining squad would carry on, winning only because of what Shep did. Kinda like Optimus Prime in the old school movie, for those old enough to remember.

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Tessir Kaerak wrote...

Another interesting idea, if he were to die, faced by insurmountable odds, the endgame could possibly be played after Shep's death. The remaining squad would carry on, winning only because of what Shep did. Kinda like Optimus Prime in the old school movie, for those old enough to remember.


Then who would Shep pass the Matrix too? But seriously. If it comes down to a imminent death scenario. I want the Reapers to win and the battlefield to play out like in The Darkspawn Chronicles from DA:O. I say that because for me to be placed in a situation like that, I must have missed rallying a few races. The idea of taken control of a member in my squad just wouldn't feel as natural to me.

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Tessir Kaerak wrote...

Another interesting idea, if he were to die, faced by insurmountable odds, the endgame could possibly be played after Shep's death. The remaining squad would carry on, winning only because of what Shep did. Kinda like Optimus Prime in the old school movie, for those old enough to remember.

He died for your sins :(

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daqs wrote...

Aedan_Cousland wrote...

I'm hoping there is an option, but is is basically the opposite of ME2.

In ME2 Shepard could die but only if he didn't prepare adequately and made the wrong tactical or strategic decisions. In ME3 I'd like to see the opposite take place, where Shep dies because he made the right tactical or strategic decisions.

Um, your sense of causation is weird.  "Let's reward people for doing the right thing by...killing them! Yaaaay"


This. Fallout 3 was hated for this very reason until Broken Steel was created.

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If anyone is going to die for my sins, I better make sure they get their moneies worth from it.

*goes out debauching*

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Lunatic LK47 wrote...

daqs wrote...

Aedan_Cousland wrote...

I'm hoping there is an option, but is is basically the opposite of ME2.

In ME2 Shepard could die but only if he didn't prepare adequately and made the wrong tactical or strategic decisions. In ME3 I'd like to see the opposite take place, where Shep dies because he made the right tactical or strategic decisions.

Um, your sense of causation is weird.  "Let's reward people for doing the right thing by...killing them! Yaaaay"


This. Fallout 3 was hated for this very reason until Broken Steel was created.


Fallout 3 just had a weak ending.

Mass Effect 3 needs a heroic sacrifice ending IMO.

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I think ME3 needs six endings.

1 Shepard dead, galaxy destroyed, no message sent.
2 Shepard dead, galaxy destroyed, message sent.
3 Shepard dead, galaxy saved, but in ruins.
4 Shepard alive, galaxy saved, but in ruins
5 Shepard dead, galaxy saved, and in decent condition.
6 Shepard alive, galaxy saved, and in decent condition. (This would require all the right choices and would be hard to get)

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Slidell505 wrote...

I think ME3 needs six endings.

1 Shepard dead, galaxy destroyed, no message sent.
2 Shepard dead, galaxy destroyed, message sent.
3 Shepard dead, galaxy saved, but in ruins.
4 Shepard alive, galaxy saved, but in ruins
5 Shepard dead, galaxy saved, and in decent condition.
6 Shepard alive, galaxy saved, and in decent condition. (This would require all the right choices and would be hard to get)


I like, I like. I particularly would like it the Reapers were totally annihialted in option 6. With the exception of a few stragglers and indoctrinated.

But that would be stupendous.

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Slidell505 wrote...

I think ME3 needs six endings.

1 Shepard dead, galaxy destroyed, no message sent.
2 Shepard dead, galaxy destroyed, message sent.
3 Shepard dead, galaxy saved, but in ruins.
4 Shepard alive, galaxy saved, but in ruins
5 Shepard dead, galaxy saved, and in decent condition.
6 Shepard alive, galaxy saved, and in decent condition. (This would require all the right choices and would be hard to get)

ME3 should have much more dimensions than your examples, and with different politics in the universe taking place I doubt it would be that simplistic.

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I also want the option where Shepard could die for the greater good. I mean wouldn't Shepard feel a bit displaced knowing that s/he came back from the dead? Even though Shepard put aside such feelings on that subject, it still stands that the existence of Shepard is abnormal. Unless it doesn't occur in their thoughts, but wouldn't they feel like a freak? And if so what would be their plan after defeating the Reapers? They will continue to be Alliance and Council's pawns even though they say Shepard is their own person. So I hope Shepard is not just stuck with one position of living. Although it kind of sounds morbid, the players should have the option to choose what to do with Shepard's very life and future. A heroic confrontation would be cool.

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I hope that before the final battle we'll have a choice to sacrifice ourselves or have sex with a biotic-witch.
What will it be I wonder? :devil:Posted Image :innocent:

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Waltzingbear wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

I think ME3 needs six endings.

1 Shepard dead, galaxy destroyed, no message sent.
2 Shepard dead, galaxy destroyed, message sent.
3 Shepard dead, galaxy saved, but in ruins.
4 Shepard alive, galaxy saved, but in ruins
5 Shepard dead, galaxy saved, and in decent condition.
6 Shepard alive, galaxy saved, and in decent condition. (This would require all the right choices and would be hard to get)

ME3 should have much more dimensions than your examples, and with different politics in the universe taking place I doubt it would be that simplistic.


I was just giving a basic overview of Shepard.

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Given all the choices we have been fac3d wit there is a good deal of possible fates/


Wonder if there will be an option to give into the reapers at some point.

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Slidell505 wrote...

I think ME3 needs six endings.

1 Shepard dead, galaxy destroyed, no message sent.
2 Shepard dead, galaxy destroyed, message sent.
3 Shepard dead, galaxy saved, but in ruins.
4 Shepard alive, galaxy saved, but in ruins
5 Shepard dead, galaxy saved, and in decent condition.
6 Shepard alive, galaxy saved, and in decent condition. (This would require all the right choices and would be hard to get)


Message sent ala Protheans?

That would be an interesting concept if the cycle was repeated to such a degree as that, maybe we get a better message sent out so the next 'group of races' is better prepared and able to thwart the Reapers when the cycle comes to repeat itself again.

I actually also hope that on scale of difficulty to achieve, it falls down on 1-6 being easiest to hardest. As Casey has said in regards if you rush it it'll be messy. Basically put, you rush it, most you can get is 4 but even that is hard for such a Shep to achieve.

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I think the mainline (vanilla) consists of a detroyed earth, forcing mankind to leave the nuked planet to their colonies and Shepard dead, but his crimes forgiven. Reapers are history once and for all.

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I want my Shephard to survive and will be annoyed if there's a forced death. As far as endings i'd like multiple shades of grey endings and no perfect path. Shephard's decisions having an impact on who suffers and who dies.