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[Drasill]

Recently EA pulled Crysis 2 from Steam, so does this mean that Mass Effect 3 (along with all other future EA games) will not be on Steam or will even be exclusive to Origin? I know they already confirmed that SWTOR will be exclusive to Origin. 

[WorpeX]

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If they do, they are going to lose a lot of PC sales. Mine being one of them.

Edit: Wait no, I can just buy it at a store. Not losing my sale, but i'll be damned if I use this origin ****.

Modifié par WorpeX, 15 juin 2011 - 02:35 .

[shinobi602]

How would we know man?

If I was to guess, I would say no, it won't be on Steam. EA wants to push Origin out there. Seems likely all EA titles will be only on Origin from now on.

[TSC_1]

I'd just like someone to tell me. Right now I'm holding off until I can buy ME3 on Steam. If it turns out that's not going to happen, I'd splurge for the CE on Origin. But if I find out that ME3 isn't going to be on Steam the day after the CE stops being sold... I'm going to be irritated.

[charmingcharlie]

TSC_1 wrote...

I'd just like someone to tell me. Right now I'm holding off until I can buy ME3 on Steam. If it turns out that's not going to happen, I'd splurge for the CE on Origin. But if I find out that ME3 isn't going to be on Steam the day after the CE stops being sold... I'm going to be irritated.

Why not pre-order the CE retail ? If it then appears later on Steam you can cancel the retail pre-order.  I think it is highly unlikely you will be seeing Mass Effect 3 in any form on Steam and it is even less likely you will see the DDE version of Mass Effect 3 on Steam because that is an "Origins Exclusive".

Modifié par charmingcharlie, 15 juin 2011 - 02:52 .

[NausOracle]

I'm in the same boat.

I can understand competition, but only releasing their game on one digital distribution method, theirs, is not! With all the hacking going on, I'd only trust steam at this point as it seems they added more security systems BEFORE all this took place. So that doesn't even include the ease of use for downloading (pre-downloading sometimes as well!) auto update and my steam friends list, etc.

EA is just being stupid. If you want to be competing, have ME3 DE only on origin and original on steam, I wouldn't like it, but at LEAST I could stomach a move like that ... and I'd still support steam

Extra note: The reason I don't want to buy it at stores either is I'm afraid that the game will require you to create a origin account anyway for update, download, or god knows what bad DRM they are gona use either ... it's either steam or nothing for me =/

Modifié par NausOracle, 15 juin 2011 - 02:55 .

[ebevan91]

I really hope ME3 will be on Steam. I bought ME and ME2 on Steam and I hope to do the same with ME3.

[SmokePants]

Steam takes 30% off the top, which is more the margins retailers get for selling boxed copies. I'm not really shocked to see a big publisher make its own digital distribution application. I'm shocked that it didn't happen sooner -- I guess that just comes down to the PC market being an afterthought and not worth investing in a proprietary distribution platform.

If not for their massive investment in TOR, I wonder if EA qould have bothered with this re-branding and relaunch of their online store.

[NausOracle]

SmokePants wrote...

Steam takes 30% off the top, which is more the margins retailers get for selling boxed copies. I'm not really shocked to see a big publisher make its own digital distribution application. I'm shocked that it didn't happen sooner -- I guess that just comes down to the PC market being an afterthought and not worth investing in a proprietary distribution platform.

If not for their massive investment in TOR, I wonder if EA qould have bothered with this re-branding and relaunch of their online store.

Then why not negotiate with Steam to maybe lower the % a bit? Isn't taking a small hit worth staying part of the biggest digital distribution service, spanning both PC and mac, that also contains a comunity service as part of it?

They could have saved more money NOT developping origin then competing with steam at the end of the day I predict. We shall see what happens a year from now

[DJSatane]

Not on steam will mean no purchase for me

[marshalleck]

It's still nine months to go. That's nine months for EA to watch sales of Crysis 2 and Alice sink like a rock. They also haven't pulled ME, ME2, DAO or DA2 from Steam yet, but as for why we can only speculate.

[Gebut]

The latest Im hearing is that Alice 2 retail REQUIRES Origins to be installed to play it. Not just the digital version bought from origins.com.

Modifié par Gebut, 15 juin 2011 - 11:37 .

[McBaal]

Maybe ME3 will be temp. available on steam for pre purchase. I wont support EA in any way avoidable, so it means retail for me. Screw you EA, go to hell.

[marshalleck]

McBaal wrote...

Maybe ME3 will be temp. available on steam for pre purchase. I wont support EA in any way avoidable, so it means retail for me. Screw you EA, go to hell.

..but buying the game anywhere, at all, is supporting EA. 

[Kai Hohiro]

McBaal wrote...

Maybe ME3 will be temp. available on steam for pre purchase. I wont support EA in any way avoidable, so it means retail for me. Screw you EA, go to hell.

Err if you dont want to support EA then you shouldn't buy Mass Effect 1-3, Dragon Age 1-2, Mirrors Edge, Deadspace 1-2, Swtor, Crysis 1-2, Bulletstorm...you get the idea

Modifié par Kai Hohiro, 15 juin 2011 - 11:57 .

[Raygereio]

NausOracle wrote...
Then why not negotiate with Steam to maybe lower the % a bit? Isn't taking a small hit worth staying part of the biggest digital distribution service, spanning both PC and mac, that also contains a comunity service as part of it?
They could have saved more money NOT developping origin then competing with steam at the end of the day I predict. We shall see what happens a year from now

For starters one shouldn’t attribute common sense to people working in corporate. If these people had such a thing then for example Microsoft would actually do something with Live and make money from it instead leaving it as a absurd joke whose sole purpose is simple existing so that Microsoft can say to their investors “Look at us being all involved in the PC gamingmarket!”.
Secondly, I highly doubt Valve would negotiate on the percentages. They don’t have to for one and it would also set a bad precedent.
Lastly from EA’s perspective it’s probably an issue of control. Steam belongs to one of their direct competitors after all.

Personally I’m actually fine with EA doing their own thing with Origin (though a better name would have been preferred). It’s good that steam get’s some competition. I just wish pretty much all digital distribution methods other then Steam didn’t fall somewhere between “Not as good as Steam” and “Oh dear Ao. Why does this affront exists?!”.

Modifié par Raygereio, 15 juin 2011 - 12:02 .

[Kusy]

I don't see a problem with this Oirgin thing, I use it, it's not like it's groundbreaking but It has a shop, an ingame web browser (I don't have to minimalise games to look up something on the web), ingame chat options and a listing of my present games. EA's customer service is good in comparison to Valve's.

I also don't want to worry you guys but since all of you are registered users, you already have an Origin account as it's the same as your EA account. And it does seam that EA want to make their digital market exclusive to Origin. Why the hate tho? Does it hurts you in any way to use it?

I fail to see any logic here, It's ok when Steam does what it does but when another platform doing it shows up everyone is bitching about it?

Modifié par Mr.Kusy, 15 juin 2011 - 12:07 .

[Kai Hohiro]

Raygereio wrote...Personally I’m actually fine with EA doing their own thing with Origin (though a better name would have been preferred). It’s good that steam get’s some competition. I just wish pretty much all digital distribution methods other then Steam didn’t fall somewhere between “Not as good as Steam” and “Oh dear Ao. Why does this affront to nature exists?!”.

Yeah that's what I actually agree with that any competition for Steam is a good thing. I love Steam, I have several hundred games on it, but a monopoly is never good

And Origin(formerly EADM) is not too bad to be honest.

1. It has the best customer service period. Steam's customer support ticket system is abysmal and often it takes days until you get a reply. EA has a live chat customer support, so you anytime you have  a problem you can just jump to the chat and get help right away.
And anytime I or any friend of mine had a problem it was solved more than satisfactory. The Dragon Age 2 Deadspace armor was only intended for retail/console? No problem we'll gift it to you anyways. A friend of mine had a problem getting his Sims 3 key to register, so they fixed it AND gifted him a free game.

2. It's very lightweight, far less ressource heavy than Steam (doesn't matter too much on a modern PC of course, but still worth pointing out that its not some terribad bloatware).

3. I can buy a retail copy of any EA game and register the key on it to get the Digital version as well (on steam this only works with steamworks games like Valve's own games, Fallout New Vegas, Call of Duty, etc).

So overall Origin is not too shabby and better than most other digital retailers out there. It sure as hell can't replace Steam, but I don't mind using it alongside in the slightest.

Modifié par Kai Hohiro, 15 juin 2011 - 12:07 .

[Gebut]

@Raygerio
you look forward to having to install a different service for every publisher, when you install your retail pc game? cause thats where we are heading.

People will get fed up with not beeing be able to buy all their favorite games at their favorite digital store. Instead they have to go to Origins for EA games,Ubistore, for Ubi games etc. Sales will get lower and once again the PC market seems to be irrelevant, just when we were starting to get somewhere with digital sales.

[Tup3x]

Kai Hohiro wrote...

Raygereio wrote...Personally I’m actually fine with EA doing their own thing with Origin (though a better name would have been preferred). It’s good that steam get’s some competition. I just wish pretty much all digital distribution methods other then Steam didn’t fall somewhere between “Not as good as Steam” and “Oh dear Ao. Why does this affront to nature exists?!”.

Yeah that's what I actually agree with that any competition for Steam is a good thing. I love Steam, I have several hundred games on it, but a monopoly is never good

And Origin(formerly EADM) is not too bad to be honest.

1. It has the best customer service period. Steam's customer support ticket system is abysmal and often it takes days until you get a reply. EA has a live chat customer support, so you anytime you have  a problem you can just jump to the chat and get help right away.
And anytime I or any friend of mine had a problem it was solved more than satisfactory. The Dragon Age 2 Deadspace armor was only intended for retail/console? No problem we'll gift it to you anyways. A friend of mine had a problem getting his Sims 3 key to register, so they fixed it AND gifted him a free game.

2. It's very lightweight, far less ressource heavy than Steam.

3. I can buy a retail copy of any EA game and register the key on it to get the Digital version as well (on steam this only work with steamworks games like Valve's own games, Fallout New Vegas, Call of Duty, etc).

So overall Origin is not too shabby and better than most other digital retailers out there. It sure as hell can't replace Steam, but I don't mind using it alongside in the slightest.

So you say... At the moment Steam uses about 1/3 RAM compared to Origin and EACoreServer.exe.

[Kusy]

Tup3xi wrote...
So you say... At the moment Steam uses about 1/3 RAM compared to Origin and EACoreServer.exe.

Zero! Zero fucks given that day! Ha ha ha ha!

Modifié par Mr.Kusy, 15 juin 2011 - 12:09 .

[Gebut]

To clarify, im not opposed EA starting Origins. Competition is good. What I am apposed is EA pulling games from steam, and making their future pc games only available on Origins.

[Kusy]

Gebut wrote...

To clarify, im not opposed EA starting Origins. Competition is good. What I am apposed is EA pulling games from steam, and making their future pc games only available on Origins.

I don't think they will make all their future games exclusive to Origins. Just the biggest ones. TOR is already cofirmed to be only avalible on Origins and retail. And I don't see how dividing the market would hurt anyone, I only have one game on steam while I already have 6 games on Origin... and Mass Effect 2 twice because EA was kind enough to give me a free copy for another game I bought (I also have 2 DA:O because they gave me another CD key when I downloaded the wrong language version before but that's not listed).

Modifié par Mr.Kusy, 15 juin 2011 - 12:16 .

[McBaal]

I am going to buy the CE at amazon.de Not just to avoid Origin as much as possible, its because amazon.de guarantees the cheapest price available once you pre purchased. If it gets more expensive in the following 9 months (or cheaper) you will always pay at the lowest cost that has been available during this time. And sometimes pre purchased retail games arrive even before the releasedate (Red alert 3 for example 2 days earlier) 80 Euro for the CE and maybe less. Sounds fair to me.

[Gebut]

Mr.Kusy wrote...
I don't think they will make all their future games exclusive to Origins. Just the biggest ones. TOR is already cofirmed to be only avalible on Origins and retail. And I don't see how dividing the market would hurt anyone, I only have one game on steam while I already have 6 games on Origin... and Mass Effect 2 twice because EA was kind enough to give me a free copy for another game I bought (I also have 2 DA:O because they gave me another CD key when I downloaded the wrong language version before but that's not listed).

I might be overreacting, but I just dont want the big publisher players to **** up the pc digital market. Having Origins as a service might not be the end of the world, but If it sets the norm for the future, you'll need 5-6 different services to play all your games.