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[78stonewobble]

Pups_of_war_76 wrote...

FERMi27 wrote...

I live in a country with a low next to none tolerance of gays and lesbians. Still, I don't care what developers will do with the game, as long as I can be 100% sure that my next chosen dialogue option will not trigger a gay relationship. I wanna be sure as hell in that!

I keep seeing this.

Why is it such a big deal?

To some it just is... Emotions ... slippery little f***'s...

[ipgd]

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

Does the for the love thread get trolled 24/7 or something?

Are you kidding?

Why in the world do you guys troll threads that are exressing concerns over how S/S romances and romances in general will happen? I agree the thread title is silly but really the thread has been pretty civil IMO.

Because it is invariably founded on an insidious type of mentality that is as impeditive to tolerance and equality as any plainly violent attitude.

FERMi27 wrote...

I don't want it to suddenly and unintentially to colorize, if you know what I mean.

Oh lordy lord do you proofread.

[Pups_of_war_76]

FERMi27 wrote...

Pups_of_war_76 wrote...

FERMi27 wrote...

I live in a country with a low next to none tolerance of gays and lesbians. Still, I don't care what developers will do with the game, as long as I can be 100% sure that my next chosen dialogue option will not trigger a gay relationship. I wanna be sure as hell in that!

I keep seeing this.

Why is it such a big deal?

I'm used to ME as a straight game. I don't want it to suddenly and unintentially to colorize, if you know what I mean. that would make me reload the save.

:/

I don't know how to react to that. 

Colorize?

Straight game?

[Rinji the Bearded]

IsaacShep wrote...

Can't a bisexual man love a woman? Not to mention Rahna was integral part of the Vyrnnus story. It wasn't like he started talking about her to prove anything "Yo Shep! I'm gonna now talk about one of my teenage crushes to you 'cause ya know I'm such a straight playa playa and had a crush on a girl!". Pretty much all bisexual men have history with women to talk about.

Zevran was very much in love with a girl named Rinna, for example.  Not the best example in the world, I admit, but he also had a girl that was very important to him in his past.

[Destroy Raiden_]

TexasToast712 wrote...

He is basically saying he doesnt want another DAII where Anders is suddenly homosexual and you are forced to get negative points because Anders seems interested after 2 conversations. I agree. No rewriting the sexuality of pre established characters. I need that banner. Seen it somewhere.

Agreed just like people blew up on a anon for  FO4 meme who requested to have a gay character made straight for their request we don't want social cued and end game portrayed straight characters turning Bi for 3. S

ome people claim so and so was retconed for 2 as a LI because they didn't say so in ME but that's not a retcon that's a natural progression what is a retcon is so and so is portrayed as straight in 2 and goes bi or full gay for 3 or so and so was portrayed as straight in ME and goes bi or gay for 3. MShep's been retconned too he was said ME - ME2 by BW not to be gay then in 3 he can be.

So to to cut this short: 

No to past LI crewmates becoming bi or gay for 3

Yes to brand new crewmen like Vega being bi or gay for 3.

[PlumPaul93]

I will say this though as long as the way I view a character in there sexuality stays the same I really don't care. I think that's a fair request considering people want to have certain characters be the way they see them.

[Aargh12]

IsaacShep wrote...
Bingo. Majority of the characters in ME never specify their sexual orientation.

Ant does that mean that in ME3 they'll all turn into bi? That feesl too imposed, too... unnatural?

Modifié par Aargh12, 15 juin 2011 - 03:37 .

[tsunderes]

They could use the DA2 system where "romantic" responses are made clear with a heart (something I sometimes wish DAO had, because had I known I was flirting with Leliana i wouldn't have been met with her screaming CHEATER at me later in the game during my romance with Alister)
I'll also admit, I was pretty put off when Thane got all "wouldn't you like to remember feeling a tongue in your mouth" just like hey, you know whats great NOT HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.
But anyways, keep in mind that current characters may very well NOT be the s/s romances unless it was previously implied or could be made to work out of current material. Pretty sure, or at leat I'm hoping that not everyone is suddenly PC sexual, only because it's a little silly but still, I wouldnt be so bothered by it that it would ruin my gaming experience.

Modifié par tsunderes, 15 juin 2011 - 03:40 .

[Bolboreta]

IsaacShep wrote...

Bolboreta wrote...
Of course people can change (or be bi from the beginning), but I think discovering their sexuality after so many years would be weird.

Bingo. Majority of the characters in ME never specify their sexual orientation.

Yes, but that doesn't mean that they don't have one. And making everyone bisexual it's not realistic, because that would mean everyone can have everyone. It's a game, I know, but in real life we cannot romance everyone  

[PlumPaul93]

ipgd wrote...

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

Does the for the love thread get trolled 24/7 or something?

Are you kidding?

Why in the world do you guys troll threads that are exressing concerns over how S/S romances and romances in general will happen? I agree the thread title is silly but really the thread has been pretty civil IMO.

Because it is invariably founded on an insidious type of mentality that is as impeditive to tolerance and equality as any plainly violent attitude.

FERMi27 wrote...

I don't want it to suddenly and unintentially to colorize, if you know what I mean.

Oh lordy lord do you proofread.

Then why the hell do you look at them? If you feel the best way to handle something you don't agree with is to troll then you probably need to grow up. People aren't always going to agree with something you do/want deal with it.

[Rinji the Bearded]

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

I will say this though as long as the way I view a character in there sexuality stays the same I really don't care. I think that's a fair request considering people want to have certain characters be the way they see them.

They'll always be the same character.  Just don't hit on them, obviously.

And I'm not sure what we're arguing about quite yet -- we don't even know who the s/s options even are, only that that there will be s/s options.

[ipgd]

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

Then why the hell do you look at them?

Because I am a masochist and I hate myself. I think this applies to everyone in these threads.

If you feel the best way to handle something you don't agree with is to troll then you probably need to grow up.

I'm not sure you're familiar with the definition of troll. Nerd rage, though, you've got that down.

People aren't always going to agree with something you do/want deal with it.

Irony is the sweetest of fruit.

Modifié par ipgd, 15 juin 2011 - 03:40 .

[Rinji the Bearded]

Bolboreta wrote...

Yes, but that doesn't mean that they don't have one. And making everyone bisexual it's not realistic, because that would mean everyone can have everyone. It's a game, I know, but in real life we cannot romance everyone  

We also cannot romance people of other species in real life... nor is it really logical to do so.

[Bolboreta]

RinjiRenee wrote...

We also cannot romance people of other species in real life... nor is it really logical to do so.

We haven't met people of other species yet  I'm sure we couldn't reproduce with them, but romancing is different 

So, back on topic, I think we all agree in the need of clear romancing options (not only s/s). 

[PlumPaul93]

ipgd wrote...

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

Then why the hell do you look at them?

Because I am a masochist and I hate myself. I think this applies to everyone in these threads.

If you feel the best way to handle something you don't agree with is to troll then you probably need to grow up.

I'm not sure you're familiar with the definition of troll. Nerd rage, though, you've got that down.

People aren't always going to agree with something you do/want deal with it.

Irony is the sweetest of fruit.

not taking the bait try again.

[Rinji the Bearded]

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

Bolboreta wrote...

Yes, but that doesn't mean that they don't have one. And making everyone bisexual it's not realistic, because that would mean everyone can have everyone. It's a game, I know, but in real life we cannot romance everyone  

We also cannot romance people of other species in real life... nor is it really logical to do so.

That doesn't apply here, as there are no other species in real life.

But there are other species in the Mass Effect world.  So reality really can't be applied here.

Garrus and Tali showed no previous interest in humans or Shepard in ME1.  By that logic, shouldn't they have not been romanceable in ME2?

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 15 juin 2011 - 03:45 .

[78stonewobble]

As long as you can "coax" the same background information/story out of a person without having it set a silly romance flag I'm good.

@big bad wolf: No other species in life? I head something about new zealanders and sheep... *lol*

[Mystranna Kelteel]

PlumPaul82393 wrote...
not taking the bait try again.

If you really think he is trolling then a response like this is taking the bait.

[ipgd]

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

not taking the bait try again.

Were I really somehow trolling, I think it's pretty safe to say you would already have devoured any proverbial bait. You seem mad.

[Dr.MOHCTP]

Destroy Raiden wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

He is basically saying he doesnt want another DAII where Anders is suddenly homosexual and you are forced to get negative points because Anders seems interested after 2 conversations. I agree. No rewriting the sexuality of pre established characters. I need that banner. Seen it somewhere.

Agreed just like people blew up on a anon for  FO4 meme who requested to have a gay character made straight for their request we don't want social cued and end game portrayed straight characters turning Bi for 3. S

ome people claim so and so was retconed for 2 as a LI because they didn't say so in ME but that's not a retcon that's a natural progression what is a retcon is so and so is portrayed as straight in 2 and goes bi or full gay for 3 or so and so was portrayed as straight in ME and goes bi or gay for 3. MShep's been retconned too he was said ME - ME2 by BW not to be gay then in 3 he can be.

So to to cut this short: 

No to past LI crewmates becoming bi or gay for 3

Yes to brand new crewmen like Vega being bi or gay for 3.

+1 if with past LI can be possible to start a new relationship, it will automatically affect those wich already exist, and better to make a good end of story about LI, than start a new one

[shepskisaac]

Aargh12 wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...
Bingo. Majority of the characters in ME never specify their sexual orientation.

Ant does that mean that in ME3 they'll all turn into bi? That feesl too imposed, too... unnatural?

No because it's already confirmed they won't all "turn" bi. Casey confirmed it.

Dr.MOHCTP wrote...
+1 if with past LI can be possible to start
a new relationship, it will automatically affect those wich already
exist, and better to make a good end of story about LI, than start a new
one

How so? How would Ashley being available as s/s romance option in ME3 change what has already happened in the straight relationship with ManShep in ME1 and ME2? Also, any Garrus and/or Tali fan who is against old characters becoming LIs (of any kind) is simply a hypocrite.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 15 juin 2011 - 03:49 .