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[Loghain_The_Lawless]

Don't **** around with the infinite.

[dm3565]

The Mass Effect series is what used to be called "a good yarn." It's a space opera, like Edgar Rice Burroughs' John Carter of Mars series, where it broaches some philosophical and moral issues, but is mostly concerned with broader themes--the hero's journey, drama, romance, courage, sacrifice, exploration, political intrigue, etc.--and with creating a of atmosphere of scale and vastness that science fiction is so good at. If the there is a "message" to Mass Effect, it is perhaps this: that the best of what we are might overcome the worst of what we are to accomplish great things. The Normandy is named after a pivotal battle in a pivotal global war where best and worst of humanity battled to determine the course of human civilization. That seems a pertinent bit of symbolism.

As for this statement: "Religion leads to destruction. Indoctrination leads to destruction. There are no gods, we must find our own way." Between discussion with Ashley, Mordin, Thane, Legion, and pieces of game lore sprinkled throughout, the series itself takes an agnostic view on the issue. My Shepard believes in God, but someone else's may not, and we're given the option to supply either answer in the first game. Even the Reapers can be seen from different perspectives: Are they godlike pinnacles of evolution? Or are they parasites that simply live off the leavings and residue of the species they destroyed, not having actually created anything for themselves? It's left up to the player.

[Chuvvy]

It's clearly a satire of the market economy.

[azerSheppard]

Kelly got scale itch

[Veen130]

ME message: Commander Shepard > Chuck Norris

[Phaedon]

I think that the ME trilogy mostly focuses around morality.

[Sister Helen]

Message is: "Don't ****** off Humans." 

I imagine this scene with my shep in battlearmor on Tuchanka.

(I don't think my link worked earlier.  So this is a repost - hope it works:)

[elearon1]

Captain Iglo wrote...

Entertainment  Enchantment!

Fixed that for you.

Modifié par elearon1, 16 juin 2011 - 10:23 .

[LadyLuminary]

Personally I think it's about finding your own destiny. Just me though

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

dm3565 wrote...

The Mass Effect series is what used to be called "a good yarn." It's a space opera, like Edgar Rice Burroughs' John Carter of Mars series, where it broaches some philosophical and moral issues, but is mostly concerned with broader themes--the hero's journey, drama, romance, courage, sacrifice, exploration, political intrigue, etc.--and with creating a of atmosphere of scale and vastness that science fiction is so good at. If the there is a "message" to Mass Effect, it is perhaps this: that the best of what we are might overcome the worst of what we are to accomplish great things. The Normandy is named after a pivotal battle in a pivotal global war where best and worst of humanity battled to determine the course of human civilization. That seems a pertinent bit of symbolism.

As for this statement: "Religion leads to destruction. Indoctrination leads to destruction. There are no gods, we must find our own way." Between discussion with Ashley, Mordin, Thane, Legion, and pieces of game lore sprinkled throughout, the series itself takes an agnostic view on the issue. My Shepard believes in God, but someone else's may not, and we're given the option to supply either answer in the first game. Even the Reapers can be seen from different perspectives: Are they godlike pinnacles of evolution? Or are they parasites that simply live off the leavings and residue of the species they destroyed, not having actually created anything for themselves? It's left up to the player.

Agreed with this.

[Icinix]

Don't do drugs.

Government's don't listen to their people.

A variety of friends from different races will serve you better than staying cloistered.

..and no matter what is happening in the universe, humanity is always going to be the universes last hope.

[huntrrz]

"Never give up! Never surrender!"

[Sister Helen]

huntrrz wrote...

"Never give up! Never surrender!"

AWESOME!  Galaxy Quest quote.  Awesomest show that never existed:

[Chromie]

Canadish wrote...

Culture and technology must advance in tandem, or nothing but misery awaits everyone.

At least, that was the undertone of Mass Effect 2.

Sounds like the Foundation series =D

[Abispa]

Air quotes are more fun with only three fingers.

[Dark Eff3ct]

remember that you will die one day is the message of course

[Parion]

Imo it's not really a message per se. It's more of a question, and we're free to make up our own minds.
Specifically, the question "Does the end justify the means?".
It's a theme we see repeated ad infinitum.
In the first game it's largely passive, we see others decide rather than decide ourselves; Saren sacrificing the galaxy so that some may survive, Anderson risking his career to do what he thinks is right. In 2 we're suddenly making these decisions, such as whether we use the reapers methods to indoctrinate the heretics, do we risk curing the krogan, present evidence to acquit tali or honour her wishes and so on.

Muahahahaaaaa delayed posting ftw.

[wombo87]

transhumanism is bad, mkay

[88mphSlayer]

the message of the series is basically "the universe is very big and very old and humans are just a spec of dust among many specs of dust"

[Ieldra]

wombo87 wrote...
transhumanism is bad, mkay

Biotics are considered transhuman, if you recall the whole Burns incident in ME1 and its echo in ME2. So that message certainly isn't there yet.

My main Shepard is a transhumanist. He approves of biotics and Miranda's genetic engineering among other things. I plan to work for an end where every kind of technology we've met in the game is available for research and development, and put to a use determined by humans (or asari, turians etc.) instead of 100 million year old genocidal machines. I very much hope Bioware won't spoil his story.

[hwf]

What does it mean to be alive.

Thanks DurkBakala. Had trouble finding the Eurogamer interview with some folks at Bioware before I read your post.
That interview was about Mass Effect 2 but I think it extends across the trilogy at least, if not the entire setting.
Bioware's Preston Watamaniuk mentions: 'We are going to continue on other themes such as technology: what does it mean to be alive? How does synthetic life or intelligence compare to real-, true-life or organic life? How do you cross those boundaries, can we cross those boundaries, should we cross those boundaries? We really want to push into that direction.'

transhumanism is bad, mkay

What wombo87 said.
A two year old corpse somehow reanimated: It talks the talk and it walks the walk - but is it really Shepard?

Modifié par hwf, 21 juin 2011 - 05:27 .

[Khayness]

The future will be cool, and we won't be around to see it.

[blank1]

You guys are stretching things way too far.

The message in the ME series is simple:

Choose carefully. :3