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[TheTWF]

 I'll start out by being blunt. In most people's games James Vegas will rot on the Normandy. Why do I think that? Because that's what happened with Ashley, Kaidan, Miranda, Jacob, and Jack.

You'd think by now the devs would have some understanding of it's fanbase by now, with all the Tali fanservice and in-joke during LotSB. We don't want squadmates that are boring, and human squadmates are ALWAYS boring. In a scifi game full of interesting and exotic xenos we want to see THEM, not something we can see by looking out a window. The only human squadmate that people liked was Zaeed, because he was designed to NOT be boring. Even though he wasn't that involved in the game compared to the rest we got a personality, a past, and a understanding of him out of him.

But Vega isn't going to be Zaeed. At E3 he was confirmed to be an everyman, a veacle for new players to understand the ME universe (yes, apparently ME3 is aimed to draw in new players, because that's how trilogies work! Way to blow months of assurences to ME1 fans out of your ass. This is right after the DA2 fiasco to boot). So basically for anyone who has played a previous game he's going to be a bore, he's going to bog down the game, and he's going to take a squadmate slot that could've been given to a xeno that's automatically attention getting or, if you absolutely have to have a human squadmate, SOMEONE WE KNOW. Someone we're capable of caring about?

Oh, and he's a sniper? So's Garrus. Guess which one ME fans will use?
  

[shepskisaac]

There needs to be a balance. Having the squad filled with walking Codex entries for alien races ain't great either.

[SennenScale]

Some people in the forums are really, really, really pro-human. I imagine they might like him unless he's hostile to Cerberus.

I prefer the aliens myself. Can find human characters anywhere, but not, say, Turian ones.

[MegaBadExample]

That's just your opinion, man.

[Bolboreta]

As I said before, Garrus is dead in some people's playthroughs, so they need a sniper.

[Starzie]

I reserve judgment until I've played the game. Who knows, he might be interesting. He's going to be completely clueless, so there's potential for some humor.

*after huge-ass fight that results in a huge explosion*
"Does this crap happen often?"
"Hahahaha, you poor SOB. Try to keep up."

Though I admit all the questions about Reapers have the equal potential to be annoying. I trust Bioware will put in a "Shut up and put up!" option in the dialogue somewhere. If I'm forced to use it, I will.

[CheeseEnchilada]

Honestly? With the characters that are confirmed so far to be 'permanent squadmates', I think I'll be taking Vega out with me most of the time.

I understand their reasoning behind Vega, but no more new squadmates please--we're full up. One to help the new players and those who botched the SM, and we're good to go.

[Nohvarr]

So, new players and people who prefer humans use James Vega and others do not, I don't see the problem. How does it hurt to have Vega as an optional team mate, especially since we don't know a lot about the character. I mean we already know that Garrus, Tali, and Liara make a return for those people who love aliens. So that's balanced by having Vega, Williams, and Alenko for those players who'd rather work with humans.

And everymen can be entertaining characters. There's a wealth of examples on that so I really can't accept your argument that he has to be borning.

[ilovemesometurian]

Miranda was extremely interesting in my opinion. You can't even call Kasumi boring, she's hilarious and full of wit. Jacob was stable, Ashley is a hardass, Kaiden is caring and compassionate, Jack is twisted and unpredictable and Zaeed is a rough and tumble veteran with great stories. I like the human characters. James has the potential to be anything at this point so I'm excited for him. BioWare hasn't made one bad character yet in my book so I'm sure Vega will be interesting as well


Also I don't think Vega is clueless. He's a soldier, he seems to know combat and fighting, but seems kind of new to the world. Like new to corruption or new to places like Omega. But most importantly, he's the only one who's new to the Reapers.

Modifié par ilovemesometurian, 15 juin 2011 - 05:01 .

[Td1984]

I'm not exactly thrilled to have Vega either. My ideal squad for ME3 missions is Ashley & Miranda (always willing to risk a catfight I guess). If the addition of Vega prevents one of them from being permanent, I won't be happy.

[chibievil]

Well it depends what he is like, if he is better than Garrus then maybe i will have him on my team, most the time my team has 1 biotic 1 soldier/whoever i want

so say i am biotic i will have a soldier and tech
if soldier i have biotic and tech

so i just mix it around, so if this james guy is good i will put him on my team

[javierabegazo]

Why do we need to be given characters we "want"?
Why can't we just play characters that written?

[xX N7 Xx]

I still have no idea who he is..

[Siansonea]

TheTWF wrote...

 I'll start out by being blunt. In most people's games James Vegas will rot on the Normandy. Why do I think that? Because that's what happened with Ashley, Kaidan, Miranda, Jacob, and Jack.

You'd think by now the devs would have some understanding of it's fanbase by now, with all the Tali fanservice and in-joke during LotSB. We don't want squadmates that are boring, and human squadmates are ALWAYS boring. In a scifi game full of interesting and exotic xenos we want to see THEM, not something we can see by looking out a window. The only human squadmate that people liked was Zaeed, because he was designed to NOT be boring. Even though he wasn't that involved in the game compared to the rest we got a personality, a past, and a understanding of him out of him.

But Vega isn't going to be Zaeed. At E3 he was confirmed to be an everyman, a veacle for new players to understand the ME universe (yes, apparently ME3 is aimed to draw in new players, because that's how trilogies work! Way to blow months of assurences to ME1 fans out of your ass. This is right after the DA2 fiasco to boot). So basically for anyone who has played a previous game he's going to be a bore, he's going to bog down the game, and he's going to take a squadmate slot that could've been given to a xeno that's automatically attention getting or, if you absolutely have to have a human squadmate, SOMEONE WE KNOW. Someone we're capable of caring about?

Oh, and he's a sniper? So's Garrus. Guess which one ME fans will use?
  

You make a lot of assumptions about the fanbase. And they're all pretty much 100% wrong where I'm concerned. Maybe douchebag manchildren don't like the human characters, but the grownups do. You know who "rotted" on the Normandy SR1 in MY games? Wrex, Garrus and Tali. And on the Normandy SR2? Grunt, Garrus, Tali and Thane. So your hypothesis is deeply flawed. And I'm pretty sure BioWare's telemetry data gives them an adequate picture of player habits that your suppositions cannot provide.

So, bring on James Vega. Just give him a haircut. 

[Platform626]

I'm not too keen on another party member, but whatever. Vega must be really important if Bioware is throwing him in. And if not I will be disappoint...

[Heather Cline]

I didn't like Zaeed. I found him boring. I liked Jack, Tali, Samara, Kasumi and Miranda. Frankly I hated Grunt, I never liked Garrus, Thane sucked, Jacob was boring. As for James Vega, haven't seen anything about him so I will reserve judgement when I play the game. Making assumptions about who people liked or disliked is really crazy.

[Sparrow44]

I disagree that all the human squadmates were boring (well barring perhaps Jacob and Jack) from the ME games, however this Vega guy is an unknown quantity for me as we still don't know much about him. That said if he does question everything I do in the game because he doesn't have a clue what's been going on in the universe I want a renegade interrupt which let's me shove the codex in his face.

As for not catering to the fans of previous games, well BW have made the effort to show off Garrus, Liara, Ash and Kaidan in the magazines and E3 videos as regular squadmates so that right there is pretty much done to appease the ME1 fans who missed their favourite characters in ME2.

[Robhuzz]

Platform626 wrote...

I'm not too keen on another party member, but whatever. Vega must be really important if Bioware is throwing him in. And if not I will be disappoint...

I'm guessing they're putting him in, alongside a still to be announced human female for s/s romance options. I for one would not be too happy if they pulled a DA2 on us and every ME1 and ME2 LI suddenly turned BI, and I'm not the only one who feels this way..

Edit: As for Vega's character, I don't know enough about him at this moment. Won't be able to tell if I like him or not until I've talked to him in ME3. Of all characters so far I only dislike Jack because of her attitude. My guessing is I'll probably like James Vega as well, unless the first thing he does is hitting on my maleshep. In this case he'll stay on the normandy, somewhere in the cargo hold.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 15 juin 2011 - 05:46 .

[ladyvader]

xX N7 Xx wrote...

I still have no idea who he is..

This^^.  We know nothing about the guy.  Execpt for the screen shot of the apperance pack and the picutre is poor quality, so we really don't know what he truly looks like.  I will take a wait and see when it comes to Vega.  I doubt I will use him much when I play my cannon femShep for the simple fact that Shepard is a soldier.  Now my engineer Shepard might need his sniper rifle, if I don't take Garrus with me.  Liara is with me no matter my class.  

[Zemiious]

TheTWF wrote...

 I'll start out by being blunt. In most people's games James Vegas will rot on the Normandy. Why do I think that? Because that's what happened with Ashley, Kaidan, Miranda, Jacob, and Jack.

You'd think by now the devs would have some understanding of it's fanbase by now, with all the Tali fanservice and in-joke during LotSB. We don't want squadmates that are boring, and human squadmates are ALWAYS boring. In a scifi game full of interesting and exotic xenos we want to see THEM, not something we can see by looking out a window. The only human squadmate that people liked was Zaeed, because he was designed to NOT be boring. Even though he wasn't that involved in the game compared to the rest we got a personality, a past, and a understanding of him out of him.

But Vega isn't going to be Zaeed. At E3 he was confirmed to be an everyman, a veacle for new players to understand the ME universe (yes, apparently ME3 is aimed to draw in new players, because that's how trilogies work! Way to blow months of assurences to ME1 fans out of your ass. This is right after the DA2 fiasco to boot). So basically for anyone who has played a previous game he's going to be a bore, he's going to bog down the game, and he's going to take a squadmate slot that could've been given to a xeno that's automatically attention getting or, if you absolutely have to have a human squadmate, SOMEONE WE KNOW. Someone we're capable of caring about?

Oh, and he's a sniper? So's Garrus. Guess which one ME fans will use?
  

Go to Hell.

How about this brother. Ashley, Miranda, Kaidan and all the other human companions(except Jacob) were all frequent members of my squad. the only problem I see in creating James Vegas is that we already have a crew of characters that have history and ****.SO vegas will seem like some noob placeholdeer. 

Then we get you aliens fans that jump through hoops to slap aliens in your party. This is the only problem with human companions, no matter how diverse, interesting, full of history they are, its not enugh for you alien fetishers. I don't see how Garrus or fking Tali has more personality than Ashley or Miranda. this problem only exists in your mind. your just making this stupidass claims because you like aliens, you're a sci-fi nerd.  Take your fanbase to a new game because guess what? HUMANS ARE HERE TO STAY.


THANK GOD. some of these alien romances make not even a smidgen of sense!! suck on it, suck on it. Oh and no matter how much you love Tali as a romance, Ashley was still the main romance.

[Bobad]

javierabegazo wrote...

Why do we need to be given characters we "want"?
Why can't we just play characters that written?

Exactly, i certainly wouldn't want to play a game solely comprised of the various wishes on these forums, I'm glad the devs take note of things though.

[ladyvader]

Zemiious wrote...

TheTWF wrote...

 I'll start out by being blunt. In most people's games James Vegas will rot on the Normandy. Why do I think that? Because that's what happened with Ashley, Kaidan, Miranda, Jacob, and Jack.

You'd think by now the devs would have some understanding of it's fanbase by now, with all the Tali fanservice and in-joke during LotSB. We don't want squadmates that are boring, and human squadmates are ALWAYS boring. In a scifi game full of interesting and exotic xenos we want to see THEM, not something we can see by looking out a window. The only human squadmate that people liked was Zaeed, because he was designed to NOT be boring. Even though he wasn't that involved in the game compared to the rest we got a personality, a past, and a understanding of him out of him.

But Vega isn't going to be Zaeed. At E3 he was confirmed to be an everyman, a veacle for new players to understand the ME universe (yes, apparently ME3 is aimed to draw in new players, because that's how trilogies work! Way to blow months of assurences to ME1 fans out of your ass. This is right after the DA2 fiasco to boot). So basically for anyone who has played a previous game he's going to be a bore, he's going to bog down the game, and he's going to take a squadmate slot that could've been given to a xeno that's automatically attention getting or, if you absolutely have to have a human squadmate, SOMEONE WE KNOW. Someone we're capable of caring about?

Oh, and he's a sniper? So's Garrus. Guess which one ME fans will use?
  

Go to Hell.

How about this brother. Ashley, Miranda, Kaidan and all the other human companions(except Jacob) were all frequent members of my squad. the only problem I see in creating James Vegas is that we already have a crew of characters that have history and ****.SO vegas will seem like some noob placeholdeer. 

Then we get you aliens fans that jump through hoops to slap aliens in your party. This is the only problem with human companions, no matter how diverse, interesting, full of history they are, its not enugh for you alien fetishers. I don't see how Garrus or fking Tali has more personality than Ashley or Miranda. this problem only exists in your mind. your just making this stupidass claims because you like aliens, you're a sci-fi nerd.  Take your fanbase to a new game because guess what? HUMANS ARE HERE TO STAY.


THANK GOD. some of these alien romances make not even a smidgen of sense!! suck on it, suck on it. Oh and no matter how much you love Tali as a romance, Ashley was still the main romance.

You just spewed a bunch of hate in your post.  What is the problem?  Everyone plays their game differently.  Every Shepard is different.  Again, what is the problem?  No need to be hateful here. 

Modifié par ladyvader, 15 juin 2011 - 06:22 .

[TheAwesomologist]

I got a funny feeling this Vega guy is just going to be a plot device that moves the story forward (similar to Miranda in ME2). I'm sure he'll get the full squadie treatment of dialog and a back story but I won't be surprised if he pulls an Anders or some sort of BS.
If nothing else he represents at least a mission or two for some extra XP and then he can sit in the Normandy while I take Garrus and Legion to do the real work.

[Blitzkrieg0811]

javierabegazo wrote...

Why do we need to be given characters we "want"?
Why can't we just play characters that written?

For once, I agree with you, Javier.