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Spectre-61

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First!!!

Modifié par variobunz, 10 novembre 2011 - 09:21 .


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DrwEddy

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Robhuzz wrote...

DrwEddy wrote...

Wait a minute, if the Reapers attacked Earth at the beginning of the game, then how the frig they know where Earth was? I think Cerberus may have tipped off the location of Earth to the Reapers. Way to go for being a pro-human faction.


The Reapers put the mass relays in those systems a long time ago. Prepping the entire galaxy (at least the systems with a relay in it) for their galactic extinction cycles. It stands to reason they mapped the entire galaxy when they did this, simply looking in their databases where Earth is. 

If that wasn't enough, they can probably tune in on extranet transmissions, much like Legion and the other geth. Finding out pretty much everything that isn't classified by just checking the extranet. Earth's location is not classified..

You sure it wasn't the Illusive Man tipping off Earth's location to the Reapers?

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I guess we'll find out in march 2012 ;)

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That's silly, TIM is not responsible. Sovereign and Harbinger had been hanging out in the Milky Way long enough to have noticed the upstarts from the Systems Alliance and could have easily noted Earth's location and what relay (Charon) was being used by these aggressive primates.

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Then why is Cerberus is trying to kill Shepherd? Do they want to steal Shepherd's credit and proclaim themselves the real heroes agianst the Reapers?

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The two do not have to be causally related. Sovereign was floating around in Citadel space as Saren's personal ship in ME1, you think he missed the species that was actively hindering his plans at every step?

Even if Cerberus has been reduced to Reaper-Puppets, it is an underestimation of the Reapers to think they needed that alliance to find the super secret location of the Human homeworld... Given human fame/infamy in Citadel space.

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DrwEddy

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Face it, Cerberus went too far and used Reaper technology to create bad ass weapons, like the Atlas Mech, therefore they apparently allied with the Reapers.

Modifié par DrwEddy, 11 novembre 2011 - 01:51 .


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Okay, but that doesn't detract from my point: the reapers didn't need Cerberus to find Earth. It's location was known to every sapient species with a mass relay in the Milky Way.

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DrwEddy

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Do you have proof then?

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DrwEddy wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

DrwEddy wrote...

Wait a minute, if the Reapers attacked Earth at the beginning of the game, then how the frig they know where Earth was? I think Cerberus may have tipped off the location of Earth to the Reapers. Way to go for being a pro-human faction.


The Reapers put the mass relays in those systems a long time ago. Prepping the entire galaxy (at least the systems with a relay in it) for their galactic extinction cycles. It stands to reason they mapped the entire galaxy when they did this, simply looking in their databases where Earth is. 

If that wasn't enough, they can probably tune in on extranet transmissions, much like Legion and the other geth. Finding out pretty much everything that isn't classified by just checking the extranet. Earth's location is not classified..

You sure it wasn't the Illusive Man tipping off Earth's location to the Reapers?


Can't say. Reapers have plenty of other ways to know Earth's location. Illusive Man had nothing to do with that. No proof *snifs* but theory fits evidence...

Modifié par Robhuzz, 11 novembre 2011 - 08:25 .


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They probably learned it from Paul Grayson - which actually does mean the Illusive Man is somewhat at fault.

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Hmh, there's also Saren to tell them that and anyone else that was indoctrinated or worked with Reapers, Collectors or some other Reaper servant during and before ME1.
Also in ME2 Collectors had plenty of time to find out where is Earth.

Also Reapers know where they put all of their Mass Relays( note that Mu Relay wasn't where it suppose to be do to nearby start system star went super nova and shockwave moved it far away).

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Yuoaman wrote...

They probably learned it from Paul Grayson - which actually does mean the Illusive Man is somewhat at fault.


Earth's. Location. Is. Not. A. Secret.  This isn't Halo. They could have picked it up from any number of in-the-clear signals, or just looked it up on the Extranet.  The Collectors even had an accurate population count before the Normandy SR-1 was attacked.

Modifié par didymos1120, 11 novembre 2011 - 11:34 .


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didymos1120 wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

They probably learned it from Paul Grayson - which actually does mean the Illusive Man is somewhat at fault.


Earth's. Location. Is. Not. A. Secret.  This isn't Halo. They could have picked it up from any number of in-the-clear signals, or just looked it up on the Extranet.  The Collectors even had an accurate population count before the Normandy SR-1 was attacked.

Actually, Yuoaman made a good point. Good thinking!Posted Image

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DrwEddy wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

They probably learned it from Paul Grayson - which actually does mean the Illusive Man is somewhat at fault.


Earth's. Location. Is. Not. A. Secret.  This isn't Halo. They could have picked it up from any number of in-the-clear signals, or just looked it up on the Extranet.  The Collectors even had an accurate population count before the Normandy SR-1 was attacked.

Actually, Yuoaman made a good point. Good thinking!Posted Image


No, Yuoaman didn't. Or are you just ignoring the fact that the Collectors knew detailed information about Earth before Shep was killed?  You somehow think they had an accurate census, yet didn't know where it was? 

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DrwEddy

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didymos1120 wrote...

DrwEddy wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

They probably learned it from Paul Grayson - which actually does mean the Illusive Man is somewhat at fault.


Earth's. Location. Is. Not. A. Secret.  This isn't Halo. They could have picked it up from any number of in-the-clear signals, or just looked it up on the Extranet.  The Collectors even had an accurate population count before the Normandy SR-1 was attacked.

Actually, Yuoaman made a good point. Good thinking!Posted Image


No, Yuoaman didn't. Or are you just ignoring the fact that the Collectors knew detailed information about Earth before Shep was killed?  You somehow think they had an accurate census, yet didn't know where it was? 

Collectors cannot attack Earth, they only attack colonies is so they they won't get noticed from Alliance.

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on them knowing where earth is when they have done this before virgil said that when they took the citadel they had all the census info which would have told them where the people are they need to kill

from what we know about the opening of me3 they have already hit earths colonies and they are making reapers again out of the people they are taking its not a huge jump to think that anyone being used to make a new reaper that everything they know becomes apart of the reapers and that is how they know

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DrwEddy wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

DrwEddy wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

They probably learned it from Paul Grayson - which actually does mean the Illusive Man is somewhat at fault.


Earth's. Location. Is. Not. A. Secret.  This isn't Halo. They could have picked it up from any number of in-the-clear signals, or just looked it up on the Extranet.  The Collectors even had an accurate population count before the Normandy SR-1 was attacked.

Actually, Yuoaman made a good point. Good thinking!Posted Image


No, Yuoaman didn't. Or are you just ignoring the fact that the Collectors knew detailed information about Earth before Shep was killed?  You somehow think they had an accurate census, yet didn't know where it was? 

Collectors cannot attack Earth, they only attack colonies is so they they won't get noticed from Alliance.


I agree with that last part and I laughed a bit when it the notion was brought up that the Collectors would try to hit earth with that single collector ship. As if that single ship would get past the entire alliance fleet. But I digress. Like didymos said, the Collectors had detailed information on the amount of colonists on every human colony, as well as omega, even before they attacked the SR-1 so even before Cerberus started looking into it. You don't seriously think they (and with them, the Reapers as well) would have had that detailed information lying around but would still require the assistance of Cerberus to find out the location of the Human's home planet? :lol:

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Is it me. . .
But for ME3 if certain squad mates died in ME2 ,i think they will be replace with ppl u have met in ME2.
Example:
If u lost Garrus in the SM Capt.Gavorn would take his place for ME3
Lost Mordin ,his nephew would replace or Malin if he wasnt killed
Lost Thane his son would replace him
Lost Miranda here sister replaces
Jack and jacob not sure of
But its a theory. . . Thoughts anyone. . .

#2495
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An interesting thought.
The Miranda example is a bit unreal. But I got your point.
The other replacements are indeed possible.

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No crouching in ME3:
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/8040696/3#8685732

Brenon Holmes wrote...

There is no crouching in ME3, sorry. As was mentioned previously, there are issues with crouching in ME... since we do a lot of firing tests from the camera (since we think it feels better), there are cases where you can fire over or around objects and hit things while remaining impossible to be hit.

We have done a bit of work to address some of those issues, but not to the point where it might compromise player expectations. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/happy.png[/smilie]


Modifié par Vertigo_1, 11 novembre 2011 - 08:26 .


#2497
Spectre-61

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Didn't crouch in ME anyway. And in ME3 I'll be ducking behind cover. So no big deal from my point of view.

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Busiest week I had in some time.

Other than the no crouching thing and the addition of the Enemies section is there anything else that you want me to add?

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About the 1 disc rumor... How can so much awesome possibly fit on just 1 disc?

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Alright, I'll start working on the Enemies google doc.