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i dont like how now that i know the illusive man is working for the reapers, ME2 just felt like a giant run around goose chase that ended up helping the reapers.......

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Ericander77 wrote...

i dont like how now that i know the illusive man is working for the reapers, ME2 just felt like a giant run around goose chase that ended up helping the reapers.......

This isn't confirmed btw. We know TIM is after Shepard, and Casey says it might appear they're working for the Reapers but we'll have to play the game to discover the real reason.

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Candidate 88766 wrote...

Ericander77 wrote...

i dont like how now that i know the illusive man is working for the reapers, ME2 just felt like a giant run around goose chase that ended up helping the reapers.......

This isn't confirmed btw. We know TIM is after Shepard, and Casey says it might appear they're working for the Reapers but we'll have to play the game to discover the real reason.




they dont have to. it's spelled out in this

http://www.newsarama...3-110707-1.html


he's under the reaper's controll and all the weird under explained things he did in ME2 make perfect since

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Ericander77 wrote...



they dont have to. it's spelled out in this

http://www.newsarama...3-110707-1.html


he's under the reaper's controll and all the weird under explained things he did in ME2 make perfect since


It's not as clear-cut as all that. As the source cited says [emphasis added]:

"Jack Harper escaped with his life and became the Illusive Man, but that close contact with a Reaper artifact clearly affected him, leaving his eyes forever changed, usually an early sign of indoctrination.

"... Could Jack Harper have been indoctrinated, all the way back at the First Contact War's end? Yes, and signs are pointing to that being the truth, at least a bit. He has terrorized humanity and alien races alike. He has discovered more about the Reapers through testing and theft of Reaper technology than anyone else. He very well could be the
Reapers' ultimate test of how much to take from humanity before destroying all organic life"

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It is significant that in Mass Effect: Retribution that Paul Grayson was so able to resist Reaper indoctrination that, despite a massive direct injection of the thing that causes it through his skull and directly into his brain, that his tormentors wound up injecting him with Red Sand to collapse his resistence and speed up the process. From the description given in that book, TIM would have a lot more than weird eyes after 30 years if he weren't resisting indoctrination successfully.

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In the new Squad Leader trailer and the new screenshots, it looks like Shep has an omniblade of fire, which is something I didn't see at E3 or ComicCon. Anyone know what class that's for?

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Martin the Warrior wrote...

In the new Squad Leader trailer and the new screenshots, it looks like Shep has an omniblade of fire, which is something I didn't see at E3 or ComicCon. Anyone know what class that's for?


Engineer.

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Its Engineers heavy melee attack. 

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Martin the Warrior wrote...

In the new Squad Leader trailer and the new screenshots, it looks like Shep has an omniblade of fire, which is something I didn't see at E3 or ComicCon. Anyone know what class that's for?


Engineer. He's using Cryo Blast and Incinerate in the same trailer. Engineer is the only one who can do that.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 23 août 2011 - 07:07 .


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Someone With Mass wrote...

Martin the Warrior wrote...

In the new Squad Leader trailer and the new screenshots, it looks like Shep has an omniblade of fire, which is something I didn't see at E3 or ComicCon. Anyone know what class that's for?


Engineer. He's using Cryo Blast and Incinerate in the same trailer. Engineer is the only one who can do that.



uses a grenade too.... interesting Posted Image

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Will be interesting to see if TIM is indoctrinated, or is obsessed with the Reapers because he came so close to be indoctrinated. Either way, he's a downright SoB who needs to be taken out.

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Any images/videos to the adepts omniblade attack?

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Any images/videos to the adepts omniblade attack?



i havent seen anything with the biotic punch, but i bet its super bad ass  Posted Image

Modifié par Ericander77, 23 août 2011 - 07:57 .


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Ericander77 wrote...
they dont have to. it's spelled out in this

http://www.newsarama...3-110707-1.html


he's under the reaper's controll and all the weird under explained things he did in ME2 make perfect since



I've read Ascension and my impression was that TIM was searching for an understanding of Indoctrination in order to counter it. He absolutely wasn't working for the Reapers at that time.

Nor would it have made sense, if he was working for the Reapers, to orchestrate the destruction of the Collectors.

Besides, we've heard that Cerberus is out to kill Shepard but I'm not sure anyone has said that TIM is. It's possible Cerberus got indoctrinated and TIM didn't.

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Sorry again guys, bit busy lately, and since there is the Condensed Mass video, I am not in much of a hurry to update the latest news from Gamescom. I'll try again tomorrow, I promise.

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Phaedon wrote...

Sorry again guys, bit busy lately, and since there is the Condensed Mass video, I am not in much of a hurry to update the latest news from Gamescom. I'll try again tomorrow, I promise.


Ease up on yourself, Phaedon. We have months to go. Don't burn out.

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Ericander77 wrote...

Dannyboy9876 wrote...

Any images/videos to the adepts omniblade attack?



i havent seen anything with the biotic punch, but i bet its super bad ass  Posted Image





There is a photo of the adept palm strike, the adepts melee attack @ http://masseffect.wi...ecial:newsfiles

If anyone was interested , I'm not sure if its posted here or not

Modifié par jasonsantanna, 23 août 2011 - 09:31 .


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PROOF THAT THEY ARE WORKING TOGETHERPosted Image




"The Illusive Man aka Jack Harper
Status: Antagonist
Info: Cerberus is working with the Reapers, TIM described as major antagonist."




http://social.biowar...423/blog/35955/

Modifié par Ericander77, 23 août 2011 - 09:32 .


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Re:

Ericander77 wrote...

PROOF THAT THEY ARE WORKING TOGETHERPosted Image


I'll suggest to Phaedon that he revise that to "appears to be working with the Reapers" in light of Casey Hudson's oft-quoted tweet.

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Appearances can be decieving, no?

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leonia42 wrote...

Appearances can be decieving, no?


Also, just because TIM is an antagonist doesn't mean he's working for the Reapers or, in fact, that he's still in control of Cerberus.

Maybe Shepard forces his hand by taking the Alliance's side against Cerberus and TIM's just defending himself? 

Maybe Shepard's actions will hurt some kind of masterplan TIM has to take down the Reapers and he believes stopping Shepard is the only way to ensure humanity's survival?

Maybe, he knows that the Reapers want to get their hands on Shepard's body and that, if they do, they win. So he has to ensure it's destroyed to stop that happening.

There's lots of scope for TIM to be the bad guy without being a Reaper agent.

Even if he is working with the Reapers it would have to have been a recent change of heart because, IMO. his actions to date (including the books) don't make sense for someone working for the Reapers.

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still placing money on it....

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jasonsantanna wrote...

Ericander77 wrote...

Dannyboy9876 wrote...

Any images/videos to the adepts omniblade attack?



i havent seen anything with the biotic punch, but i bet its super bad ass  Posted Image





There is a photo of the adept palm strike, the adepts melee attack @ http://masseffect.wi...ecial:newsfiles

If anyone was interested , I'm not sure if its posted here or not


Your link
http://masseffect.wi...ecial:newsfiles
is broken :(

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Just to add more confusion on Cerberus to this ... :P

"I'm not sure I would say Cerberus is after you at all. Though Shepard and the IllusiveMan clearly don't see eye to eye in ME3." - Mac Walters

http://twitter.com/#...032766250033152

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 23 août 2011 - 11:55 .


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Kai Leng, maybe? If TIM is willing to work with aliens for the good of the galaxy like in ME2, then it's not unreasonable to think that Leng may have created a splinter group dedicated to hunting Shepard. He might be used by the Reapers as extra power.

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JamieCOTC wrote...

Just to add more confusion on Cerberus to this ... :P

"I'm not sure I would say Cerberus is after you at all. Though Shepard and the IllusiveMan clearly don't see eye to eye in ME3." - Mac Walters

http://twitter.com/#...032766250033152

Well...they hardly saw eye to eye in ME2...at least in my playthroughs.