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#1551
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60 levels? Awesome. I wonder if imported players start at their ME2 level.

57 powers? Add to that all the different evolution branches, and power combos, and you've got a lot of power flexibility in ME3.

Now we just need to know if the exploration will be up to scratch, and then ME3 is pretty much guaranteed to be awesome in my books.

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LGTX wrote...

Why would we need Texmod? If there's an HD mod we need to use, could you link it here please?

Texmod can also save textures from in-game, including the blank Datapad layer-thing.

Phaedon wrote...

 I have a request to make for the new project concerning this thread:

Could someone load up Texmod and ME2 and take a high quality pic of the datapad screen that appears when you interact with datapads, upload it, and post it here?

Thanks.



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How long after ME2 is ME3 supposed to start? Is it a two year gap again?


1 year since the beginning of ME2, or 6 months after Arrival.

By the way, what will Shepard's age be? He/she was like 29 in ME1, but since he/she was killed and than reconstructed exactly as he/she was, wouldn't Shepard be just about 30 technically in ME3 instead of 32?

Yeah. Make sense. I'm pretty sure the aging process stops when you're dead so when Shepard was brought back he/she was probably still 29 at the beginning of ME2.

Modifié par jreezy, 04 septembre 2011 - 06:16 .


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Yannkee wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

57 Powers in ME3:
twitter.com/#!/manveerheir/status/109730713615601664



19 base powers
18 class powers (3 for each class)

Remain :
20 squadmates specific powers (2 for each squadmate)


So... does it mean that, we will have ten squadmates? 20 (sq spec powers) :2 (powers for each one) =10
:D

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60 levels is one of those things I was really, really hoping for but I did so quietly so as not to experience as much letdown if it were 30 again. And that's a lot of powers.

Gameplay (apart from atmosphere and exploration) is always going to be a distant second for me after story but this is still pretty cool news.

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Yannkee wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

57 Powers in ME3:
twitter.com/#!/manveerheir/status/109730713615601664



19 base powers
18 class powers (3 for each class)

Remain :
20 squadmates specific powers (2 for each squadmate)


I'm not sure how you're getting 19 base powers. I count 14 if you include Unity and Fortitude, and that's assuming Fortitude isn't a bonus power but something all classes have access to automatically.

178 points, as others have said, pretty much guarantees we get 9 total powers. I see two possibilities here. Either, a) Fortitude is a baseline power that all classes have, or B) We get two bonus powers. I think both are pretty feasible, though personally, I'm crossing my fingers for two bonus powers.

Either way, 178 points seems like an awful lot no matter how you slice it, and I'm having a hard time seeing how it makes sense from a points-per-level distribution sense. In all of the demos, it's clear that you receive 2 points per level at least up to level 18. So either that's going to change, and you'll get more points per level early on, or Bioware is going to completely reverse the trend in ME1 and ME2 and give us more points per level for higher levels.

Conclusion? Not enough information. ;)

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clerkenwell wrote...

I'm not sure how you're getting 19 base powers. I count 14 if you include Unity and Fortitude, and that's assuming Fortitude isn't a bonus power but something all classes have access to automatically.


Fortitude is now Fitness, and all classes have their own version of this Fitness power.

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clerkenwell wrote...

Yannkee wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

57 Powers in ME3:
twitter.com/#!/manveerheir/status/109730713615601664



19 base powers
18 class powers (3 for each class)

Remain :
20 squadmates specific powers (2 for each squadmate)


I'm not sure how you're getting 19 base powers. I count 14 if you include Unity and Fortitude, and that's assuming Fortitude isn't a bonus power but something all classes have access to automatically.

178 points, as others have said, pretty much guarantees we get 9 total powers. I see two possibilities here. Either, a) Fortitude is a baseline power that all classes have, or B) We get two bonus powers. I think both are pretty feasible, though personally, I'm crossing my fingers for two bonus powers.

Either way, 178 points seems like an awful lot no matter how you slice it, and I'm having a hard time seeing how it makes sense from a points-per-level distribution sense. In all of the demos, it's clear that you receive 2 points per level at least up to level 18. So either that's going to change, and you'll get more points per level early on, or Bioware is going to completely reverse the trend in ME1 and ME2 and give us more points per level for higher levels.

Conclusion? Not enough information. ;)


There are 19 base powers in ME2 (with unity).

Considering the last twitter message about ME3 bonus power, here is my theory :

Base powers (18) :

Adrenaline
Rush
Concussive Shot
Cryo Ammo
Disruptor Ammo
Incendiary Ammo
AI Hacking
Cryo Blast
Combat Drone
Incinerate
Overload
Tactical Cloak
Tech Armor
Charge
Pull
Singularity
Shockwave
Throw
Warp

class Powers (12) :

Adept
Biotic Mastery
?

Engineer
Tech Mastery
Turrets

Infiltrator 
Operative
?

Sentinel
Sentinel Mastery
Amplification

Soldier
Combat Mastery
Frag Grenade

Vanguard
Assault Mastery
?

Squadmates powers (27) :

Liara
2 base powers : Throw & Singularity
Biotic Training
Stasis
Lift Orb (ME3 bonus power)

Garrus
2 base powers : Overload & Concussive Shot
Turian Rebel
Armor Piercing Ammo
Proximity Mine (ME3 bonus power)

Vega
2 base powers
?
?
?

Ashley
2 base powers
?
?
?

Kaidan
2 base powers
?
?
?

X
2 base powers
?
?
?

X
2 base powers
?
?
?

X
2 base powers
?
?
?

X
2 base powers
?
?
?

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lazuli wrote...

clerkenwell wrote...

I'm not sure how you're getting 19 base powers. I count 14 if you include Unity and Fortitude, and that's assuming Fortitude isn't a bonus power but something all classes have access to automatically.


Fortitude is now Fitness, and all classes have their own version of this Fitness power.


This power is certainly one of the ME3 bonus power (maybe Vega's power)

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Yannkee wrote...

lazuli wrote...

clerkenwell wrote...

I'm not sure how you're getting 19 base powers. I count 14 if you include Unity and Fortitude, and that's assuming Fortitude isn't a bonus power but something all classes have access to automatically.


Fortitude is now Fitness, and all classes have their own version of this Fitness power.


This power is certainly one of the ME3 bonus power (maybe Vega's power)


No, it's not.  Every class has an additional passive that is tailored to it in some way.  This passive is known as Fitness for all classes, but has different stats for each class.

ctrl + F: Fitness

Modifié par lazuli, 04 septembre 2011 - 08:07 .


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lazuli wrote...

Yannkee wrote...

lazuli wrote...

clerkenwell wrote...

I'm not sure how you're getting 19 base powers. I count 14 if you include Unity and Fortitude, and that's assuming Fortitude isn't a bonus power but something all classes have access to automatically.


Fortitude is now Fitness, and all classes have their own version of this Fitness power.


This power is certainly one of the ME3 bonus power (maybe Vega's power)


No, it's not.  Every class has an additional passive that is tailored to it in some way.  This passive is known as Fitness for all classes, but has different stats for each class.


Where did you get this information ?

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See above (edited).

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So where is the ME3 squad bonus power in Shepard's talent tree ?

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Modifié par Yannkee, 04 septembre 2011 - 08:11 .


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^ Yeah, Manveer Heir confirmed that Fitness is the second passive power for all classes, and that each class implements it differently.

They haven't shown the bonus powers yet, I'm sure a 9th power slot will be added when Shep gets one.

Modifié par Biotic Sage, 04 septembre 2011 - 08:12 .


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Perhaps it's not implemented yet. PS, why do you seem convinced that the grenade powers (Proximity Mine and Lift Orb) are bonus powers? I'd put money on Stasis being a bonus power again, but I could be wrong.

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lazuli wrote...

Perhaps it's not implemented yet. PS, why do you seem convinced that the grenade powers (Proximity Mine and Lift Orb) are bonus powers? I'd put money on Stasis being a bonus power again, but I could be wrong.


Vertigo_1 wrote...
You lose your ME2 bonus power in ME3 (no matter what) but:
twitter.com/#!/PWatamaniuk/status/104006498442690561
"You do not keep your bonus power from ME2.  However #ME3 squad mates will offer a whole new set to discover and play with."


Modifié par Yannkee, 04 septembre 2011 - 08:16 .


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Yannkee wrote...

lazuli wrote...

Perhaps it's not implemented yet. PS, why do you seem convinced that the grenade powers (Proximity Mine and Lift Orb) are bonus powers? I'd put money on Stasis being a bonus power again, but I could be wrong.


Vertigo_1 wrote...
You lose your ME2 bonus power in ME3 (no matter what) but:
twitter.com/#!/PWatamaniuk/status/104006498442690561"You do not keep your bonus power from ME2.  However #ME3 squad mates will offer a whole new set to discover and play with."



I don't take that as confirmation that no bonus powers will return, but I can see why you'd think that with the limited information available.

I just can't see Stasis being main-bar for any class if it's as powerful as it was in ME2 when compared to other biotics.

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^ Stasis will definitely be a bonus power. The only thing that Tweet means is that you will have to start over in ME3 in terms of unlocking all bonus powers and reselect the one that you want.  They've already talked about implementing Reave again, and common sense just says that they wouldn't just toss the basic concepts of all the ME2 powers in the trash.

Modifié par Biotic Sage, 04 septembre 2011 - 08:22 .


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Funny thing about the work bench. I'm looking back at a preview of ME1, and it seems they had a work bench system in that game, but it was cut.

http://www.youtube.c...QgCzf0PM#t=151s

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Grunts back? As a squadie?????

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So I guess we have roughly 10 squadmates, including the DLC character?

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TMA LIVE wrote...

So I guess we have roughly 10 squadmates, including the DLC character?


I'm guessing we'll get to unlock some bonus powers from temp squadmates too.  Which means that some squadmates might not have 2 unique powers, some may still have just 1.

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lazuli wrote...

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I'm not sure how you're getting 19 base powers. I count 14 if you include Unity and Fortitude, and that's assuming Fortitude isn't a bonus power but something all classes have access to automatically.


Fortitude is now Fitness, and all classes have their own version of this Fitness power.


Very nice info, I hadn't seen that yet. Answers a lot of questions.

So, what I'm seeing now is:

12 class Specific Powers (6 from ME2, 6 new in ME3)

6 class Mastery Passives

6 class Fitness Passives

4 Combat Base Powers (Incendiary, Disruptor, and Cryo Ammos + Concussive Shot)

4 Biotic Base Powers (Throw, Pull, Warp, Shockwave)

4 Tech Base Powers (Overload, Incinerate, Cryo Blast, and Sabotage which seems to have replaced AI Hacking for Engineer at least)

Unity

Totals out to 37, meaning 20 bonus powers. And yeah, I think 2 per companion is a reasonable assumption based on what we've seen so far (Lift Orb/Stasis for Liara, and AP Ammo/Proximity Mine for Garrus). That means 16 bonus powers left to be revealed. As many as 11 of those could be returning from ME2, but I doubt we'll see all of them make a come back. Specifically, I think Dominate is on notice what with the disappearance of AI Hacking in favor of Sabotage. Neural Shock seems unlikely as well, but mostly because it's such a lackluster power. I hope Inferno and Flashbang Grenades make a return though, using the new ME3 grenade mechanics.

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Biotic Sage wrote...

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So I guess we have roughly 10 squadmates, including the DLC character?


I'm guessing we'll get to unlock some bonus powers from temp squadmates too.  Which means that some squadmates might not have 2 unique powers, some may still have just 1.


I also don't think we can assume that all bonus powers will be found on a single squadmember, especially since so many potential squaddies can be dead. For example, it might be possible that Ashley and Vega will share one bonus power, both being soldiers. (Actually I think this particular example is unlikely, but you get my meaning.)

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will we get more opportunities to paragon-hug tali is what I wanna know. :D