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[Balek-Vriege]

lazuli wrote...

Okay. And I think you're right that you lose some special perks like resources or credits. I'm not sure about the specifics yet.

Yeah can't be anything too special I don't think.  From what we've seen so far of powers etc.  there's not much room to implement perks that benefit Shep directly (like Fallout perks), but in the general sense of the word it's possible we get resources, credits (like you said), extra paragon/renegade or even some bonus squad points.

Will have to wait and see.

[Adhin]

Since I don't think its been answered in here it, but it was in the tweets thread. There was 36 powers for 'Shepard' and 21 'bonus powers' or squadmate related powers. So 57 total basically. Now I've tried to figure out how much that means for shepard as, hybrid classes tend to share some, and it seems each class has about 2 unique powers to them directly. Like Adept having Singularity and Overpower or whatever its called.

So if you take that 36 - 12 unique powers per class (2 per the 6) your left with 8 per the base 3 (Soldier, Engineer, Adept). So this seems like a lot, and more then we've seen but what we've seen has never been 'complete'. It's possible all classes have 10 'powers' to pick from to start with, +1 bonus power from that pool of 21 bonus/squad powers.

Now with the total number of points allowed (and it requiring 21 points to max a skill). If I'm right about all that you can max 8 skills, with some left overs, out of the 11 total. That seems about right when compared to ME2 in number of stuff you can max by max-lvl of the game.

I really, really hope I'm right about that, cause 10+1 powers to choose from would be pretty awesome.

-edit-
Also it could be 3 unique powers per class (as fortitude may of been a placeholder for that) in which case its 9 powers base +1, for 10 total. That would also work. Either way It looks like we'll have a good chunk of stuff to mess with this time. More so with 3-levels of split-evolutions at the end.

Modifié par Adhin, 05 septembre 2011 - 08:49 .

[Vertigo_1]

Minor but it's something:

In game credits (undetermined amount) will be used to respec in ME3.
Squad Respec is something that may also happen (On the Normandy):

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/7358840/204#8271347

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 05 septembre 2011 - 09:10 .

[Phaedon]

variobunz wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

 I have a request to make for the new project concerning this thread:

Could someone load up Texmod and ME2 and take a high quality pic of the datapad screen that appears when you interact with datapads, upload it, and post it here?

Thanks.

Look into my album. There is the Datapad texture if you still need it.

Awesome, thanks.

[DarthSliver]

It would be nice if some bonus powers from the second game came over to the third and the only way they would be available to you is through importing. Just seems the whole importing thing is undermine and as a player thats importing I dont see alot of bonuses to importing a Shepard.

[Adhin]

Well they've always had a... bonus power like thing for replay value. ME1 has you pick a bonus power from powers your class doesn't have that you earned via achievements. ME2 has bonus powers completely removed via squadmates. And that's kinda how it is in ME3. It's a staple of Mass Effect now, bonus ability you can take advantage of via a second play through giving you more reason to go at it that way.

It's something I sort of appreciate as I don't tend to want to do my first play through as my 'main' play through. I tend to play as something I don't care if it gets screwed up or if I don't do everything how I want to. Doing that also lets me get a feel for how things progress and the pacing, also gives me access to all the bonus powers from the very start on my main play through so I get to use the one I really one for most of the game.

Also having powers that only show up due to importing is kinda cutting out content for new players, or an old player who wants to make a fresh start in ME3 (which I'll do once or twice). I personally, would rather not feel obligated to do an import just to get slam for instance. I just want to have slam always there.

That said I don't think all the ME2 bonus powers are making it over and there will be entirely new ones. So I hope Slam is in, or there is a power that's very close to it in function/visuals.

[JerkyJohnny14]

The only things i want to know are the squadmates and if i am able to have all my weapons from ME2 right at the start of ME3 along with my bonus power. I understand this is the squad so far: Liara, Kaiden, Ashley, (depending on who is saved during ME1), Garrus, Tali, and some new idiot named Vega. One thing I noticed is that there is no confirmed krogan squadmate. There's always a krogan right? I sure hope Wrex comes back as the krogan member . If anyone has any info on a krogan member please post.

[Vertigo_1]

JerkyJohnny14 wrote...
...along with my bonus power...

Bonus power is lost on import but there are new bonus powers to try in ME3

Other than that we don't know anything else (the other stuff you posted about)

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 06 septembre 2011 - 04:16 .

[Kabanya101]

With there being 21 bonus powers, then that means there are 10 squadmates. They are going to have all bonus powers from ME2 return. You may not start with them, but they will return, but you subtract 1 from the total of 12. They are making the Grenade power of Katsumi's a full time power for the soldier which it should have been in ME2.

So then, 21 minus 11 is 10. One bonus power per squadmate gives 10 squadmates.
(somewhat) Confirmed Characters
1. James Vega
2. Ashley/Kaiden
3. Liara
4. Garrus
5. Tali- seriously you doubt she won't return, if they have Garrus, Tali is a shoe in

There's five characters slots left, so:
6. Grunt- they won't have Wrex, so we will be stuck with Grunt again
7. Samara/Morinth
8. Miranda/Jack
9. Katsumi (maybe Thane, MAYBE)
10. Zaeed

Those are the ten characters you will see in ME3. The first six, are in my mind a guarantee to be squaddies in ME3. The first five will be in as squaddies no matter what. Everyone will complain about not having a Krogan, and they won't have Wrex come back, so then its Grunt.

Though Samara's fan base is low, I think she will return. She made an oath to stand by you, and I don't think it will run out at the end of ME2. Even if you killed her, Morinth made the same statement.

The last three are a tossup, depending on who died on the suicide mission and all that could make different combinations. Mordin won't be on the team. No matter what he will be working on the Genophage cure. Jacob was a filler, so he's out. Legion will be with the Geth or Cerberus, doing what, I don't know. The ME1 team is making a return, aside from Wrex who will be replaced by Grunt, and the VD who is filled in by James Vega.

Zaeed and Katsumi will return. Even if you didn't buy the DLCs, they will assume you did, so they will return. The reason why I have Katsumi paired with Thane, is because they are both stealth characters. They could both take that spot, BUT Thane "should" be dead by the time the events of ME3 roll around, so 99% chance of Katsumi.

Miranda and Jack. There's a tough one, because they both will return. They said some characters will comeback as temporaries, and I think that will be Jack. Miranda has a larger fan base. And even before Jack got one, still many people disliked her. And if Kaiden is dead, which many people killed him, will want a Sentinel, and there's only one left.

Those are the squaddies for ME3, mark my words. All thanks to figuring out how many bonus powers.

[Eckswhyzee]

Kabanya101 wrote...

With there being 21 bonus powers, then that means there are 10 squadmates. They are going to have all bonus powers from ME2 return. You may not start with them, but they will return, but you subtract 1 from the total of 12. They are making the Grenade power of Katsumi's a full time power for the soldier which it should have been in ME2.

So then, 21 minus 11 is 10. One bonus power per squadmate gives 10 squadmates.
(somewhat) Confirmed Characters
1. James Vega
2. Ashley/Kaiden
3. Liara
4. Garrus
5. Tali- seriously you doubt she won't return, if they have Garrus, Tali is a shoe in

There's five characters slots left, so:
6. Grunt- they won't have Wrex, so we will be stuck with Grunt again
7. Samara/Morinth
8. Miranda/Jack
9. Katsumi (maybe Thane, MAYBE)
10. Zaeed

Those are the ten characters you will see in ME3. The first six, are in my mind a guarantee to be squaddies in ME3. The first five will be in as squaddies no matter what. Everyone will complain about not having a Krogan, and they won't have Wrex come back, so then its Grunt.

Though Samara's fan base is low, I think she will return. She made an oath to stand by you, and I don't think it will run out at the end of ME2. Even if you killed her, Morinth made the same statement.

The last three are a tossup, depending on who died on the suicide mission and all that could make different combinations. Mordin won't be on the team. No matter what he will be working on the Genophage cure. Jacob was a filler, so he's out. Legion will be with the Geth or Cerberus, doing what, I don't know. The ME1 team is making a return, aside from Wrex who will be replaced by Grunt, and the VD who is filled in by James Vega.

Zaeed and Katsumi will return. Even if you didn't buy the DLCs, they will assume you did, so they will return. The reason why I have Katsumi paired with Thane, is because they are both stealth characters. They could both take that spot, BUT Thane "should" be dead by the time the events of ME3 roll around, so 99% chance of Katsumi.

Miranda and Jack. There's a tough one, because they both will return. They said some characters will comeback as temporaries, and I think that will be Jack. Miranda has a larger fan base. And even before Jack got one, still many people disliked her. And if Kaiden is dead, which many people killed him, will want a Sentinel, and there's only one left.

Those are the squaddies for ME3, mark my words. All thanks to figuring out how many bonus powers.

Couple of things to point out:
-Shouldn't it be 9 powers/squadmates? Remember, Zaeed's loyalty power is inferno grenade.
-I highly doubt that Zaeed/Kasumi will even be temporary squadmates, as I'm pretty sure a dev tweet talked about cameos. Can someone find a source for that?
-As interesting as Samara is, I'm pretty sure her oath only applies for taking down the Collectors. Sorry, justicar only available for 1 impossible mission .

[Martin the Warrior]

Eckswhyzee wrote...

Kabanya101 wrote...

With there being 21 bonus powers, then that means there are 10 squadmates. They are going to have all bonus powers from ME2 return. You may not start with them, but they will return, but you subtract 1 from the total of 12. They are making the Grenade power of Katsumi's a full time power for the soldier which it should have been in ME2.

So then, 21 minus 11 is 10. One bonus power per squadmate gives 10 squadmates.
(somewhat) Confirmed Characters
1. James Vega
2. Ashley/Kaiden
3. Liara
4. Garrus
5. Tali- seriously you doubt she won't return, if they have Garrus, Tali is a shoe in

There's five characters slots left, so:
6. Grunt- they won't have Wrex, so we will be stuck with Grunt again
7. Samara/Morinth
8. Miranda/Jack
9. Katsumi (maybe Thane, MAYBE)
10. Zaeed

Those are the ten characters you will see in ME3. The first six, are in my mind a guarantee to be squaddies in ME3. The first five will be in as squaddies no matter what. Everyone will complain about not having a Krogan, and they won't have Wrex come back, so then its Grunt.

Though Samara's fan base is low, I think she will return. She made an oath to stand by you, and I don't think it will run out at the end of ME2. Even if you killed her, Morinth made the same statement.

The last three are a tossup, depending on who died on the suicide mission and all that could make different combinations. Mordin won't be on the team. No matter what he will be working on the Genophage cure. Jacob was a filler, so he's out. Legion will be with the Geth or Cerberus, doing what, I don't know. The ME1 team is making a return, aside from Wrex who will be replaced by Grunt, and the VD who is filled in by James Vega.

Zaeed and Katsumi will return. Even if you didn't buy the DLCs, they will assume you did, so they will return. The reason why I have Katsumi paired with Thane, is because they are both stealth characters. They could both take that spot, BUT Thane "should" be dead by the time the events of ME3 roll around, so 99% chance of Katsumi.

Miranda and Jack. There's a tough one, because they both will return. They said some characters will comeback as temporaries, and I think that will be Jack. Miranda has a larger fan base. And even before Jack got one, still many people disliked her. And if Kaiden is dead, which many people killed him, will want a Sentinel, and there's only one left.

Those are the squaddies for ME3, mark my words. All thanks to figuring out how many bonus powers.

Couple of things to point out:
-Shouldn't it be 9 powers/squadmates? Remember, Zaeed's loyalty power is inferno grenade.
-I highly doubt that Zaeed/Kasumi will even be temporary squadmates, as I'm pretty sure a dev tweet talked about cameos. Can someone find a source for that?
-As interesting as Samara is, I'm pretty sure her oath only applies for taking down the Collectors. Sorry, justicar only available for 1 impossible mission .

I suck at math, so I'm not going to try to point out how many squadmates could potentially be deduced from the number of bonus powers because I'm probably going to get it wrong.  I do have a take on the squadmate situation, though.
I'm not sure about the Miranda/Jack situation. Yes, Miranda is a fan favorite, but so is Liara and she wasn't a permanent squadmate in ME2.  So even if a character is popular, that doesn't mean they're necessarily going to be a squadmate.  The same holds for the unpopular characters - the argument that players will "need" a Sentinel just because Kaidan isn't a popular character and probably died in a lot of playthroughs doesn't necessarily mean that nobody likes him.  Heck, Ashley is my favorite ME1 squadmate and I have a few playthroughs where I let her die to see what would happen if Kaidan survived (it wasn't easy to leave my favorite squadmate, though).
As for Zaeed and Kasumi, I'm hoping that they'll be temporary squadmates, but I'm not counting on it - since they're both only available through their respective DLC, they probably won't exist in a lot of playthroughs, specifically ones that were done before their DLC became available or in which the players hadn't bought their DLC.
I'm not so sure about Samara or Morinth either.  I'm sure they'll be in the game, but I doubt their going to help.  Sure, you might have saved Morinth's life, but she doesn't seem like the grateful type to me; she might even try to kill Shep, considering s/he is the only person who knows that Morinth is alive.  And if you kept Samara around, there's Arrival to contend with - Shep ended a few hundred thousand innocent lives, and even though s/he kind of ran out of options there, I doubt the Justicar Code would allow for excuses.  So who's to say whether they're even on your side - they could be, but it's possible that they won't be.
So excuse me for playing devil's advocate, but even though I'm aware of how much speculation goes on with these forums, I think it's safest to avoid making conjectures.  I know what I'd like to see in ME3, but that doesn't necessarily mean that's what will happen.

[DarthSliver]

 I believe i heard somewhere that Thane will be returning and that he hasnt expired yet. I also believe i heard Grunt will be returning too, but to that Squadmates wont work like they did in ME1 and ME2. I dont think there really is a permanent Squad so to speak.

[clerkenwell]

On the squadmate issue, I think that a lot of the recent developer comments are hinting towards there not being more than a handful of truly permanent squad members, my guess being Vega, Kaidan/Ash, and Liara. Maybe as many as two others.

Other squaddies you'll pick up for varying lengths of time; maybe a whole act or more, maybe only for one or two missions. So you might pal up with Wrex and/or Grunt on Tuchanka and Samara on Thessia (assuming they're alive in your playthough). In this manner, I think it's possible we'll see more than ten squadmates cycle through our party over the course of the game.

I also doubt that all bonus powers will be exclusive to a single squadmember. What if Garrus died in ME2? No AP Ammo or Proximity Mine? Maybe... but I think it just as likely that we'll see some bonus powers show up on multiple characters.

[JerkyJohnny14]

Vertigo_1 wrote...

JerkyJohnny14 wrote...
...along with my bonus power...

Bonus power is lost on import but there are new bonus powers to try in ME3

Other than that we don't know anything else (the other stuff you posted about)

Okay thanks.

[armass]

Kabanya101 wrote...

With there being 21 bonus powers, then that means there are 10 squadmates. They are going to have all bonus powers from ME2 return. You may not start with them, but they will return, but you subtract 1 from the total of 12. They are making the Grenade power of Katsumi's a full time power for the soldier which it should have been in ME2.

So then, 21 minus 11 is 10. One bonus power per squadmate gives 10 squadmates.
(somewhat) Confirmed Characters
1. James Vega
2. Ashley/Kaiden
3. Liara
4. Garrus
5. Tali- seriously you doubt she won't return, if they have Garrus, Tali is a shoe in

There's five characters slots left, so:
6. Grunt- they won't have Wrex, so we will be stuck with Grunt again
7. Samara/Morinth
8. Miranda/Jack
9. Katsumi (maybe Thane, MAYBE)
10. Zaeed

Those are the ten characters you will see in ME3. The first six, are in my mind a guarantee to be squaddies in ME3. The first five will be in as squaddies no matter what. Everyone will complain about not having a Krogan, and they won't have Wrex come back, so then its Grunt.

Though Samara's fan base is low, I think she will return. She made an oath to stand by you, and I don't think it will run out at the end of ME2. Even if you killed her, Morinth made the same statement.

The last three are a tossup, depending on who died on the suicide mission and all that could make different combinations. Mordin won't be on the team. No matter what he will be working on the Genophage cure. Jacob was a filler, so he's out. Legion will be with the Geth or Cerberus, doing what, I don't know. The ME1 team is making a return, aside from Wrex who will be replaced by Grunt, and the VD who is filled in by James Vega.

Zaeed and Katsumi will return. Even if you didn't buy the DLCs, they will assume you did, so they will return. The reason why I have Katsumi paired with Thane, is because they are both stealth characters. They could both take that spot, BUT Thane "should" be dead by the time the events of ME3 roll around, so 99% chance of Katsumi.

Miranda and Jack. There's a tough one, because they both will return. They said some characters will comeback as temporaries, and I think that will be Jack. Miranda has a larger fan base. And even before Jack got one, still many people disliked her. And if Kaiden is dead, which many people killed him, will want a Sentinel, and there's only one left.

Those are the squaddies for ME3, mark my words. All thanks to figuring out how many bonus powers.

Except most of those squaddies can die in ME2, if you have killed them, then what? They punish you by giving you a skeleton crew to work with?

Im pretty sure most of the permanent squad will be new characters, Tali and Garrus are back from ME2 but thats it(im not sure if theyre even permanent). They can only replace so many dead characters. Remember that they all need their lines and personalitites, that's a huge job if you start putting in 7 alternative characters.

Modifié par armass, 07 septembre 2011 - 12:01 .

[BioFan (Official)]

[quote]Kabanya101 wrote...

With there being 21 bonus powers, then that means there are 10 squadmates. They are going to have all bonus powers from ME2 return. You may not start with them, but they will return, but you subtract 1 from the total of 12. They are making the Grenade power of Katsumi's a full time power for the soldier which it should have been in ME2.

So then, 21 minus 11 is 10. One bonus power per squadmate gives 10 squadmates.
(somewhat) Confirmed Characters
1. James Vega
2. Ashley/Kaiden
3. Liara
4. Garrus
5. Tali- seriously you doubt she won't return, if they have Garrus, Tali is a shoe in

There's five characters slots left, so:
6. Grunt- they won't have Wrex, so we will be stuck with Grunt again
7. Samara/Morinth
8. Miranda/Jack
9. Katsumi (maybe Thane, MAYBE)
10. Zaeed



[quote]



clever clever



one might be prothy though.

can wait to see who the final 5 are.... oh wait...... *BATTLESTAR GALACTICA FLASHBACKS*

Modifié par Ericander77, 07 septembre 2011 - 03:01 .

[Homebound]

Can the normandy do a barrel roll? this is the last game...

[marstor05]

Will the Normandy itself turn into a transformer?

Seriously I would hope you can bring talents across, otherwise whats the point of playing ME2?

[Phaedon]

The update I am working on seems to work perfectly on my tests right now, it will be a huge change, so I'll let a bit of info round up before updating the thread. I'd like to see if I can make it to the next update with the change/project I am working on.

[JerkyJohnny14]

Speakin of updates who votes 'yea' for the busty Liara figure? Who votes 'naah' for the figure?
check out link if confused.

http://gamerant.com/...e-trung-103027/

Not sure of credibility though.

[ironman001]

ME3 to have 57 POWERS, 60 LEVELS, 178 POINTS. 178 Points of what if you mean points to give on Shepard skills then you a bit wrong (1+2+3+4+5+6) x 8= 168 not 178 and if not then what where you talking about:)

Modifié par ironman001, 08 septembre 2011 - 10:12 .

[Adhin]

No idea who your talking to there Ironman, but as I've speculated above I don't think we know the exact end total. People are just 'assuming' from incomplete builds where characters weren't even done at events. I think the 'total' powers a person can get is 10, or 12 (thats counting bonus).

@Kabanya101: I don't think that logic quite holds up personally. I think a lot of quests will be LotSB oriented, and that's how the powers will be unlocked, regardless if there a more 'perm' squadmate or not. That, and, they've stated directly a few times in the tweets not all bonus powers are returning, most may not even be. Or are getting re-done. You don't start out with any and unlock as you go. So unless only squadmates from the last game (not counting DLC) give 2 bonus powers instead of 1, for whatever reason, it just wont make any sense.

I think it'll be 21 separate encounters, or, some will be gained via squad and others will be via other methods, or just always unlocked when that point in the game hits. The very 'fact' they've stated theres less then ME2 in number of more permanent oriented squaddies kinda leads one to believe it wont be 10 again. No im 99.9% sure its something else.

-edit-
Also, keep in mind a 'Cameo' can easily include a side-quest. It has before in ME2, it can easily be more fleshed out in ME3. For all you know theres some side mission with an old-time squadie who joins up with you for one tiny off non-required mission. And you have to explore around a bit more (with reason) to get all the bonus powers.

Modifié par Adhin, 08 septembre 2011 - 01:00 .

[clerkenwell]

ironman001 wrote...

ME3 to have 57 POWERS, 60 LEVELS, 178 POINTS. 178 Points of what if you mean points to give on Shepard skills then you a bit wrong (1+2+3+4+5+6) x 8= 168 not 178 and if not then what where you talking about:)

It looks like Shepard will probably get 8 powers before bonus powers, so 178 is feasible. It still seems like an awful lot of points to me.

[Phaedon]

ironman001 wrote...

ME3 to have 57 POWERS, 60 LEVELS, 178 POINTS. 178 Points of what if you mean points to give on Shepard skills then you a bit wrong (1+2+3+4+5+6) x 8= 168 not 178 and if not then what where you talking about:)

That's what Maveer Heir said. And no, that's the FULL list, it just may change in the future. But all the powers and etc, that were planned to be in-game, are all in-game now.

[ironman001]

Thanks you for answer i know that game is in development and somethings can change and they will but for the love of God please companions(or whatever:) ) have more then 4 power and one class skill because we have 60 lv not 30 like in ME2. PS. I'm not a hater i can't wait to play ME3 when it fully done. What i hate is piece of crap like DA 2 was so if Bioware will need to do Blizzarding with ME3 (when it done:) ) then i'm good i know this game will be great then even 2013 is good for me.