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[SnowHeart1]

jasonsantanna wrote...

Everyone plz forgive my ignorance, but I still don't get it how will the single player game lose resources If multiplayer is introduced, other high caliber games have had it and didn't seem to suffer , Halo, Gears of War , uncharted 3 and a multiple of war game franchise shooters and other RPG's. . . I'm very optimistic that BW will handle it in a manner that will respect the single player experience , this coming from a guy that doesn't play multiplayer really

(Not trying to jump down your throat; just really trying to figure this out and scratching my head in frustration and puzzlement.) I don't get how people don't understand this. If you have a budget of $1,000,000 for a game, that's all you have. You can spend it all on the engine, UI, powers, classes, abilities, graphics, and then add in the single-player experience, either building maps, writing stories, hiring voice-actors, etc., or you can split it... spending, say, $750,000 on all that, and $250,000 on implementing the multiplayer programming. Best case scenario (and personally I think this comes from the land of fairytales and pixie dust), EA decides to toss additional money into the budget to cover it... then, maybe you wind up with just a lack-luster MP experience that doesn't detract from the SP one, but that really is a magical best case scenario, IMO, and one that I don't think is likely to generate any extra sales. MP fans are not going to come to ME3 just because MP has been tacked on.

And, at the risk of tossing a match onto the fuel you've poured on the floor, I'm not sure Halo, GoW, etc. are the best examples to be using. If anything, they'll just give additional ammo to some people in the SP-only crowd. I try to stay out of that. They're very different games and franchises. Each good and excellent, but very different.

Modifié par SnowHeart1, 04 octobre 2011 - 08:53 .

[jasonsantanna]

SnowHeart1 wrote...

jasonsantanna wrote...

Everyone plz forgive my ignorance, but I still don't get it how will the single player game lose resources If multiplayer is introduced, other high caliber games have had it and didn't seem to suffer , Halo, Gears of War , uncharted 3 and a multiple of war game franchise shooters and other RPG's. . . I'm very optimistic that BW will handle it in a manner that will respect the single player experience , this coming from a guy that doesn't play multiplayer really

(Not trying to jump down your throat; just really trying to figure this out and scratching my head in frustration and puzzlement.) I don't get how people don't understand this. If you have a budget of $1,000,000 for a game, that's all you have. You can spend it all on the engine, UI, powers, classes, abilities, graphics, and then add in the single-player experience, either building maps, writing stories, hiring voice-actors, etc., or you can split it... spending, say, $750,000 on all that, and $250,000 on implementing the multiplayer programming. Best case scenario (and personally I think this comes from the land of fairytales and pixie dust), EA decides to toss additional money into the budget to cover it... then, maybe you wind up with just a lack-luster MP experience that doesn't detract from the SP one, but that really is a magical best case scenario, IMO, and one that I don't think is likely to generate any extra sales. MP fans are not going to come to ME3 just because MP has been tacked on.

And, at the risk of tossing a match onto the fuel you've poured on the floor, I'm not sure Halo, GoW, etc. are the best examples to be using. If anything, they'll just give additional ammo to some people in the SP-only crowd. I try to stay out of that. They're very different games and franchises. Each good and excellent, but very different.

Thanks for clearing that up, as far as the other Franchises I mentioned , I just meant that the SP experience was good with them MP didn't seem to take away from them , IMO , but now I understand why ppl are in an uproar about it , thanks again

[F00lishG]

The irony to this uproar is that everyone is going to try the multiplayer, and have their minds blown. Why? BECAUSE BIOWARE KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND YOU'LL LOVE IT!

\\haters gon hate

[DarthSliver]

Well if ME3 has Multiplayer it will problay be a Beta type thing for Bioware. I mean Mass Effect would be a good series for Bioware to tag Multiplayer in. Also Halo might be a bad example because I do it believe its one of the games that got Online shooting games going in the first place.

[Kabanya101]

F00lishG wrote...

The irony to this uproar is that everyone is going to try the multiplayer, and have their minds blown. Why? BECAUSE BIOWARE KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND YOU'LL LOVE IT!

haters gon hate

There isn't going to be any MP in ME3, not because I say so, but the game mechanics limit it. There are only two types of MP options that could occur.

A) Co-op: Pointless to even have because if the other person would join, they would have to be a squadmate, and with a squadmates damage nerfed would make it pointless.

Wave Mode: Something so repetitive and boring to add to a game. If the game was built more around MP, such as CoD or Halo, it would be a nice feature, but its not, making it pointless. People would join together with their individual Sheps, to fight off Geth, Husks, ect. but that would get so old, FAST.


I'm not saying there is MP in ME3, probably not, but if there would be it would suck so bad. Bioware knows this, so I don't think its happening. I don't make up the rules, but its very difficult to add MP to a game that's based SOLELY around ONE player.

[I_pity_the_fool]

Kabanya101 wrote...

F00lishG wrote...

The irony to this uproar is that everyone is going to try the multiplayer, and have their minds blown. Why? BECAUSE BIOWARE KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND YOU'LL LOVE IT!

haters gon hate

There isn't going to be any MP in ME3, not because I say so, but the game mechanics limit it. There are only two types of MP options that could occur.

A) Co-op: Pointless to even have because if the other person would join, they would have to be a squadmate, and with a squadmates damage nerfed would make it pointless.

Wave Mode: Something so repetitive and boring to add to a game. If the game was built more around MP, such as CoD or Halo, it would be a nice feature, but its not, making it pointless. People would join together with their individual Sheps, to fight off Geth, Husks, ect. but that would get so old, FAST.


I'm not saying there is MP in ME3, probably not, but if there would be it would suck so bad. Bioware knows this, so I don't think its happening. I don't make up the rules, but its very difficult to add MP to a game that's based SOLELY around ONE player.

Hmm. I disagree.

You could easily have co-op. There's no rule from God/Casey Hudson that squadmates' damage has to be lower in MP. How many people here would actually quite like to play Wrex or Tali?

[jasonsantanna]

I think ppl are taking the MP thing to serious , if I was going to be mad about anything it would have been that they took out a lot of the RPG elements from the ME2 , that ME1 had, but so far they have or seems like we are getting the best of both worlds and have 1&2 into Me3 for a great game if MP is thrown in it will most likely be an online shoot out with maps , where you can pick teams and shoot out for capture the flag and most kills type thing, I don't think it would be a MP campaign with you doing a save the galaxy from the reapers , something where your just on a mapped out area with your online buds fighting other buds , would not hinder the mechanics of the game nor its budget for SP

[DarthSliver]

I think Bioware needs to fully deny MP or say there will be MP. Too many people taking advantage of the fact that no one from Bioware has directly said there is no MP in ME3.

[pmac_tk421]

DarthSliver wrote...

I think Bioware needs to fully deny MP or say there will be MP. Too many people taking advantage of the fact that no one from Bioware has directly said there is no MP in ME3.

yah, they need to go on record and say it isn't so, or else more threads will come up every day.

[shepskisaac]

pmac_tk421 wrote...

DarthSliver wrote...

I think Bioware needs to fully deny MP or say there will be MP. Too many people taking advantage of the fact that no one from Bioware has directly said there is no MP in ME3.

yah, they need to go on record and say it isn't so, or else more threads will come up every day.

Well, perhaps they can't say 'there will be no MP in ME3' because... there will be and if they explictly said something contrary, then they would be lying

[jasonsantanna]

Also this keeps the buzz/hype about it going about the game , publicity is publicity weather its good or bad , its got ppl talk or its going to keep ppl talking

[1136342t54_]

SnowHeart1 wrote...

jasonsantanna wrote...

Everyone plz forgive my ignorance, but I still don't get it how will the single player game lose resources If multiplayer is introduced, other high caliber games have had it and didn't seem to suffer , Halo, Gears of War , uncharted 3 and a multiple of war game franchise shooters and other RPG's. . . I'm very optimistic that BW will handle it in a manner that will respect the single player experience , this coming from a guy that doesn't play multiplayer really

(Not trying to jump down your throat; just really trying to figure this out and scratching my head in frustration and puzzlement.) I don't get how people don't understand this. If you have a budget of $1,000,000 for a game, that's all you have. You can spend it all on the engine, UI, powers, classes, abilities, graphics, and then add in the single-player experience, either building maps, writing stories, hiring voice-actors, etc., or you can split it... spending, say, $750,000 on all that, and $250,000 on implementing the multiplayer programming. Best case scenario (and personally I think this comes from the land of fairytales and pixie dust), EA decides to toss additional money into the budget to cover it... then, maybe you wind up with just a lack-luster MP experience that doesn't detract from the SP one, but that really is a magical best case scenario, IMO, and one that I don't think is likely to generate any extra sales. MP fans are not going to come to ME3 just because MP has been tacked on.

And, at the risk of tossing a match onto the fuel you've poured on the floor, I'm not sure Halo, GoW, etc. are the best examples to be using. If anything, they'll just give additional ammo to some people in the SP-only crowd. I try to stay out of that. They're very different games and franchises. Each good and excellent, but very different.

You are assuming that they didn't increase the budget of the game due to MP being added in. Which seems far more likely.

[Griffin83]

I hope you can edit you're imported face in ME3 with out it reverting back to the original set of heads. I only really want to change my skin tone.

I made a face in ME1 that looks like me (I wanted an UglyShep) and being Welsh I'm pale. Everyone in Wales is. But in ME1 I'm the only pale dude in the galaxy. When I imported into ME2 it said change appearance but that reverts back to the original set of heads. Not being confident enough to try and recreate my looks for Shepard I left it and took Miranda every where with me.

[DiebytheSword]

I think all the crying about MP is way too pre-emptive without any facts or details. We don't know the games budget, we don't know if SP was affected adversley in any way shape or form. We don't know anything, period. Complaining about if before you know for sure does nothing. Anything in the game, one way or another, is in the game now and isn't coming out because of the forums complaining.

[Scourge king]

i heard from one of my sources that mass effect 3 will have pregnancies and my sources are usually never wrong

[DiebytheSword]

That would be big, and not neccesarily in the 3rd trimester kind of way.

[Bogsnot1]

Scourge king wrote...

i heard from one of my sources that mass effect 3 will have pregnancies and my sources are usually never wrong

SSV Normandy = The Love Boat?


edit: fixed link

Modifié par Bogsnot1, 06 octobre 2011 - 05:48 .

[Inquisitor Recon]

Scourge king wrote...
i heard from one of my sources that mass effect 3 will have pregnancies and my sources are usually never wrong

I take it by "source" you mean the suppliers of the drugs you're on?

[Abirn]

F00lishG wrote...

The irony to this uproar is that everyone is going to try the multiplayer, and have their minds blown. Why? BECAUSE BIOWARE KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND YOU'LL LOVE IT!

haters gon hate

That isn't even the point, besides the argument that the trilogy was designed to be a single player RPG, they went and flat out said there would be no multiplayer.  So if they add it then they will have intentionally lied to the playerbase which aggrivates me more than anything.

[CptBomBom00]

Abirn wrote...

F00lishG wrote...

The irony to this uproar is that everyone is going to try the multiplayer, and have their minds blown. Why? BECAUSE BIOWARE KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND YOU'LL LOVE IT!

haters gon hate

That isn't even the point, besides the argument that the trilogy was designed to be a single player RPG, they went and flat out said there would be no multiplayer.  So if they add it then they will have intentionally lied to the playerbase which aggrivates me more than anything.

Personally I don't like idea of the multliplayer because it won't stick with game style.

[Biotic Sage]

Abirn wrote...

F00lishG wrote...

The irony to this uproar is that everyone is going to try the multiplayer, and have their minds blown. Why? BECAUSE BIOWARE KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND YOU'LL LOVE IT!

haters gon hate

That isn't even the point, besides the argument that the trilogy was designed to be a single player RPG, they went and flat out said there would be no multiplayer.  So if they add it then they will have intentionally lied to the playerbase which aggrivates me more than anything.

EXACTLY.  This is what peeves me as well.  And everywhere I see people saying, "They didn't completely deny multiplayer yet so they left the door open."  I've been following ME3's development ever since I finished ME2, and they have confirmed that there won't be multiplayer.  In fact, they have commented on how it will be a "single player game" multiple times.  So to me the (hypothetical as of right now) intentional dishonesty is the main issue here, not whether or not a multiplayer feature would be good to add or not.  Bioware has established trust and faith from me over the years, so I'd hate for all of that to come crashing down.

[zico291]

Biotic Sage wrote...

Abirn wrote...

F00lishG wrote...

The irony to this uproar is that everyone is going to try the multiplayer, and have their minds blown. Why? BECAUSE BIOWARE KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND YOU'LL LOVE IT!

haters gon hate

That isn't even the point, besides the argument that the trilogy was designed to be a single player RPG, they went and flat out said there would be no multiplayer.  So if they add it then they will have intentionally lied to the playerbase which aggrivates me more than anything.

EXACTLY.  This is what peeves me as well.  And everywhere I see people saying, "They didn't completely deny multiplayer yet so they left the door open."  I've been following ME3's development ever since I finished ME2, and they have confirmed that there won't be multiplayer.  In fact, they have commented on how it will be a "single player game" multiple times.  So to me the (hypothetical as of right now) intentional dishonesty is the main issue here, not whether or not a multiplayer feature would be good to add or not.  Bioware has established trust and faith from me over the years, so I'd hate for all of that to come crashing down.

I really hope your right, don't get me wrong I would like to see multiplayer is the Mass Effect franchise. But not in Mass Effect 3 or in any of Shepards story.

[Nightingale]

zico291 wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

Abirn wrote...

F00lishG wrote...

The irony to this uproar is that everyone is going to try the multiplayer, and have their minds blown. Why? BECAUSE BIOWARE KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND YOU'LL LOVE IT!

haters gon hate

That isn't even the point, besides the argument that the trilogy was designed to be a single player RPG, they went and flat out said there would be no multiplayer.  So if they add it then they will have intentionally lied to the playerbase which aggrivates me more than anything.

EXACTLY.  This is what peeves me as well.  And everywhere I see people saying, "They didn't completely deny multiplayer yet so they left the door open."  I've been following ME3's development ever since I finished ME2, and they have confirmed that there won't be multiplayer.  In fact, they have commented on how it will be a "single player game" multiple times.  So to me the (hypothetical as of right now) intentional dishonesty is the main issue here, not whether or not a multiplayer feature would be good to add or not.  Bioware has established trust and faith from me over the years, so I'd hate for all of that to come crashing down.

I really hope your right, don't get me wrong I would like to see multiplayer is the Mass Effect franchise. But not in Mass Effect 3 or in any of Shepards story.

I agree. With all the talk of a Mass Effect MMO, they should really just leave the multiplayer elements to that.
Someone mentioned that it'd most likely be co-op or a wave-based MP if they brought it to ME3 and I suppose that could work as a seperate experience from the main game (like Resident Evil 5's Mercenaries mode), but I'm still not crazy about the idea. Bringing in something they said they wouldn't from day one and lying about it while delaying or even taking away from the single-player experience would really lose my respect for BioWare. For now, I don't think they're lying - we've had sources already say that there will be MP, only to have BioWare shoot it down again - but I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[almighty1]

Scourge king wrote...

i heard from one of my sources that mass effect 3 will have pregnancies and my sources are usually never wrong

Well if your not just trollin, I should guess that perhaps your 'sources' may have been talking about the pregnant asari commando husk's that were mentioned as enemies quite a while back. I dunno about the husk or commando bit, but there was definitly some mention of pregnant asari's who are enemies, that I would assume it means husk.

[XyleJKH]

I thought it was said in their first reveal that there was no mp? In game informer?