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Does anyone else share my concern over the news that ME3 is going to have a lot more melee...aka CQC? I felt that ME1 and ME2 gave us choices as to how we wish to play, as a ranged combatant or CQC....Myself, I am best off at range, long to mid specializing in Sniper, I am hopeless at CQC....How do others feel about the promise of a lot more CQC in ME3?

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Ooh, I hope enemy snipers make a return in ME3. Lets all ask the devs on Twitter :)

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Amazing.

Why would it concern you?

Melee in ME1 and 2 was fairly boring. You had exactly one animation which changed minutely from weapon to weapon.

Now, Shepard is basically Bruce Lee + Goku + Space = win.

All it means is that if you're in range, you can do cooler stuff than elbow a guy fifty times.

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I think it'll be good for classes like soldier, vanguard, and sentinel that have more health and are generally closer to enemies, and used as a back up attack for adepts, infiltrators, and engineers. I just hope that my melee attacks won't be stronger than my weapons the way it is in War for Cybertron.

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You know...you guys could always just look at the gameplay videos which displays both ranged and CQC combat, to see how it works in tandem.

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javierabegazo wrote...

Ooh, I hope enemy snipers make a return in ME3. Lets all ask the devs on Twitter :)


That would be awesome, I loved hunting the opposition snipers on ME1...peek over the top of a hill, first the turrets come down, then scope for any snipers..I miss the snipers in ME2....I don't have a twitter account, would you ask them please Javier?

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KainrycKarr wrote...

Amazing.

Why would it concern you?

Melee in ME1 and 2 was fairly boring. You had exactly one animation which changed minutely from weapon to weapon.

Now, Shepard is basically Bruce Lee + Goku + Space = win.

All it means is that if you're in range, you can do cooler stuff than elbow a guy fifty times.


I fail MISERABLY as soon as there's a chaotic situation, in life and game, just a prob I have...as a Sniper, I can keep things clean and flowing, relying heavily on tactics to do so yes...but a huge part of the fun for me is working out tactics and the whole awesome feel of clean head shots, I have run a couple of ME2 games in which my Shep can only use head shots and never miss, if he fails, I reload....And yes, have managed an Insanity play with this, that was awesome....always blast the husks just above one leg though, I find it is the most effective place to hit them.

Having background in a Martial Art which involves the roll attack I have to admit, I am looking forward to my Infiltrator Shep being able to do these rolls....by the way, does anyone know if Shep comes up in an attack stance?...and seeing what I can do with it and how it plays out.

Modifié par Golden Owl, 16 juin 2011 - 05:12 .


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Golden Owl wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

Ooh, I hope enemy snipers make a return in ME3. Lets all ask the devs on Twitter :)


That would be awesome, I loved hunting the opposition snipers on ME1...peek over the top of a hill, first the turrets come down, then scope for any snipers..I miss the snipers in ME2....I don't have a twitter account, would you ask them please Javier?

Just did :o

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javierabegazo wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

Ooh, I hope enemy snipers make a return in ME3. Lets all ask the devs on Twitter :)


That would be awesome, I loved hunting the opposition snipers on ME1...peek over the top of a hill, first the turrets come down, then scope for any snipers..I miss the snipers in ME2....I don't have a twitter account, would you ask them please Javier?

Just did :o


Thank you Javier...^_^...would you let us know what the reply is please?

[Why of course :ph34r:]

Modifié par javierabegazo, 16 juin 2011 - 05:15 .


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Wow. I really did not notice that snipers had been taken out. ..Now i kind of miss them. Hopefully if they are back they wont have that dreadful red laser beam pointing you to where they are.

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blitzkkrieg wrote...

Wow. I really did not notice that snipers had been taken out. ..Now i kind of miss them. Hopefully if they are back they wont have that dreadful red laser beam pointing you to where they are.


Yes, I would prefer if they didn't have the red line, would make more fun for scoping and hunting them.

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I agree. I always thought it ruined the feel for the snipers; instead of being hidden away in a snipers nest some where and posing an actual threat, they basically were like, "If i dont have this really really bright laser sight, I will never be able to see where my bullet will go."

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blitzkkrieg wrote...

I agree. I always thought it ruined the feel for the snipers; instead of being hidden away in a snipers nest some where and posing an actual threat, they basically were like, "If i dont have this really really bright laser sight, I will never be able to see where my bullet will go."


I have heard rumors there might be silencers in ME3...don't quote me though, I could well be wrong...if so though for both Shep and opposition, that could make for a great deal of fun....B)

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blitzkkrieg wrote...

I agree. I always thought it ruined the feel for the snipers; instead of being hidden away in a snipers nest some where and posing an actual threat, they basically were like, "If i dont have this really really bright laser sight, I will never be able to see where my bullet will go."

On Insanity in ME1, if you didn't have that Assassination laser sight tp see snipers, you'd have been utterly massacred on most levels.

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Well since us snipers are terrible at close-range combat, it's good to know that I will have a one-shot melee up my sleeve if an enemy gets too close. I wonder what the melee special is for the Infiltrator class...

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javierabegazo wrote...

Ooh, I hope enemy snipers make a return in ME3. Lets all ask the devs on Twitter :)


Ew.

If they're properly balanced and not as bugged as they were in ME1, then I could see getting behind the sniper idea.  But I prefer ME2's system of long-ranged threats.  The missiles can be dodged and don't instantly kill you, but if the enemies get a stagger lock going, you're in trouble.

One-hit-kills are a little too 90's for my taste.

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Platform626 wrote...

Well since us snipers are terrible at close-range combat, it's good to know that I will have a one-shot melee up my sleeve if an enemy gets too close. I wonder what the melee special is for the Infiltrator class...


I'm not the only one....thank god for that...^_^....Yep, I have been very curious as well, we have all seen what the Soldier has now, I am hoping the Infiltrator has something that really makes sense for a stealth class....and hoping with fingers and toes crossed Infiltrator still has his cloak.

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Golden Owl wrote...

I'm not the only one....thank god for that...^_^....Yep, I have been very curious as well, we have all seen what the Soldier has now, I am hoping the Infiltrator has something that really makes sense for a stealth class....and hoping with fingers and toes crossed Infiltrator still has his cloak.

Considering what they've done for the other classes - keeping all of the powers and increasing their depth, while adding one or two extras - I strongly doubt they'll be taking away Tactical Cloak.  It's kind of iconic.

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lazuli wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

Ooh, I hope enemy snipers make a return in ME3. Lets all ask the devs on Twitter :)


Ew.

If they're properly balanced and not as bugged as they were in ME1, then I could see getting behind the sniper idea.  But I prefer ME2's system of long-ranged threats.  The missiles can be dodged and don't instantly kill you, but if the enemies get a stagger lock going, you're in trouble.

One-hit-kills are a little too 90's for my taste.


A Widow shot between the eyes makes sense for a one-hit-kill ....considering the fact that the info on it says it would tear a mans arm off if he tried to use it...Shep gets away with it I guess because of his Cerberus cyber bits.

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daqs wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

I'm not the only one....thank god for that...^_^....Yep, I have been very curious as well, we have all seen what the Soldier has now, I am hoping the Infiltrator has something that really makes sense for a stealth class....and hoping with fingers and toes crossed Infiltrator still has his cloak.

Considering what they've done for the other classes - keeping all of the powers and increasing their depth, while adding one or two extras - I strongly doubt they'll be taking away Tactical Cloak.  It's kind of iconic.


Thats is correct then.... the powers being kept? Fantastic, thank you daqs.

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Golden Owl wrote...

Thats is correct then.... the powers being kept? Fantastic, thank you daqs.

It's what they did for the Soldier, for Liara, and for Garrus.  Check the skill tree screenshots from E3.

Admittedly, class skill trees aren't final, but I have a hard time believing that they'll revamp things that much.

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Wow! Someone gave me thread stars...:o....first thread of mine to get them...Thank you to who ever did it....^_^

@Daqs....yep, sadly me eyes aren't that great or could be the piddly monitor I have..:pinched:.... I froze the image when I saw the Skill Tree shot, but couldn't make out the words.

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Golden Owl wrote...

I have run a couple of ME2 games in which my Shep can only use head shots and never miss, if he fails, I reload....And yes, have managed an Insanity play with this, that was awesome....always blast the husks just above one leg though, I find it is the most effective place to hit them.


That's so cool!

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Golden Owl wrote...

@Daqs....yep, sadly me eyes aren't that great or could be the piddly monitor I have..:pinched:.... I froze the image when I saw the Skill Tree shot, but couldn't make out the words.

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who would know wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

I have run a couple of ME2 games in which my Shep can only use head shots and never miss, if he fails, I reload....And yes, have managed an Insanity play with this, that was awesome....always blast the husks just above one leg though, I find it is the most effective place to hit them.


That's so cool!


Makes for a longer game, but satisfaction guarenteed :D...plus does wonders for the sniper practise...^_^