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Dean_the_Young

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Samara was never denied parenthood. Her ideal outcome was taken away, but being a parent wasn't.

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lovgreno wrote...

Flamewielder wrote...
Bump for the love!

I'm hoping Samara will be your possible temp squaddie on Thessia.

Why just a temporal squadmate? I want her wisdom, gun and biotics along all the time! But, I realise BioWare may have to prioritise more popular characters as squadmates, too bad for us Samara fans but understandable.

So do I, but a single-mission squaddie is a lot easier to write dialogue for (it only need to interact with Shep and the "permanent" squaddies) and is certainly more interesting than a mere cameo. I'd like to see Samara interact with the various squaddies, I enjoy her toungue-in-cheek humour...

...and remembering Ashley's envious comments regarding Liara's age and appearance, I'm sure she'd be awed by Samara's Image IPB

EDIT for top of page Samara! (original art by Spiritius; URL follows)
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By parenthood, I implied the happiness one seeks to derive from it.

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She could have derived other forms of happiness from what she had left.

Much of Samara's tragedy and sorrow is self-inflicted.

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She's a broken individual, no doubt. I'm not sure she found "happier" alternatives acceptable, at least in the early years following her daughters' diagnosis. She was probably always a person that was set in her ways, even before becoming a Justicar.

Her current apparent serenity may reflect a somewhat different outlook on life than the one she had when she initially joined the Order. Who knows...

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If she's broken, she broke herself. Hers is a sympathetic tale, but not particularly tragic.

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Samara was the best character in mass effect 2 behind shepherd of course, but her and garrus best 2 ppl 2 take with ya

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Dean_the_Young wrote...
If she's broken, she broke herself. Hers is a sympathetic tale, but not particularly tragic.

Making her story the mirror image of her daughter's? That's rather nicely put. Image IPB I've always felt Morinth was the real tragic character in their tale, while Samara was the sympathetic one.

Few of us would agree with the actions of protagonists in Greek or Roman tragedies. Then again, few of us are ever put in the situation these protagonists are caught in. Samara's story is far-fetched, with a rare, irreversible, vampiric-like disease affecting her daughters, an ancient order of "knights" with Judge Dredd-like authority in an otherwise civilized and advanced society... It's the kind of absolutism you see in ancient tragedies where heroes are fated to succeed or fail.

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Samara's story is just so interesting and there is so little we actually know about her. I can't wait to see what we learn in Mass Effect 3

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I do, regardless of who caused the actual brokenness, believe that Samara could unbreak herself with time.

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I would have liked for Shepard to ask her why she has a human name.

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Seboist wrote...

I would have liked for Shepard to ask her why she has a human name.


...<_<
All the names are and aren't human.

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I'd be more accepting of Samara not being an LI if the only flirt option wasn't Shepard being kind of an overbearing ass.

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Xilizhra wrote...

I'd be more accepting of Samara not being an LI if the only flirt option wasn't Shepard being kind of an overbearing ass.


Lol so true... the way she says "Don't pursue this, please" almost made me cry, she was really hurt by her faith to the code. I hated Shepard in that situation.

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That's not quite what I meant, since it's Samara's personal inclinations stopping her, not the Code. I wanted to not say something like "you know you want this" and something more like "I would love to see this become something more, not because I need to save you from yourself or anything, but because I believe it could add something to the both of us."

And if she isn't an LI, I'll always wonder how it could have happened.

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Seboist wrote...

I would have liked for Shepard to ask her why she has a human name.


Would you prefer asari have names consisting of sounds that are impossible for the human mouth and glottus to produce?

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yorkj86 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

I would have liked for Shepard to ask her why she has a human name.


Would you prefer asari have names consisting of sounds that are impossible for the human mouth and glottus to produce?


Yes.

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Xilizhra wrote...
That's not quite what I meant, since it's Samara's personal inclinations stopping her, not the Code. I wanted to not say something like "you know you want this" and something more like "I would love to see this become something more, not because I need to save you from yourself or anything, but because I believe it could add something to the both of us."

And if she isn't an LI, I'll always wonder how it could have happened.

Shepard comes accross as being "pushy" when Samara makes it obvious she's not comfortable with pursuing anything, at least in ME2.

I think Samara might eventually change her mind but I think it would require spending long enough time with Shep to be convinced of Shep's commitment in spite of all that a relationship with a Justicar implies. If the time elapsed between ME2 and ME3 is a mere couple of months and Samara left the Normandy shortly after the conclusion of ME2, I doubt her choice would be different.

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With Shepard having tried to pursue anything, or not?

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I personally, would love to see Samara change her mind, or at least feel some the involuntarily pull to reconsider after seeing Shepard succeed in the light of all kinds of outrageous obstacles. I would like her to decide not to lose another moment with the already short lived Shepard now that the galaxy is literally falling apart around them.

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Seboist wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

I would have liked for Shepard to ask her why she has a human name.


Would you prefer asari have names consisting of sounds that are impossible for the human mouth and glottus to produce?


Yes.


Me too, but we're stuck with a humanoid, all-female race having names with feminine sounds.  When they're happy, their lips curve upward.  When they're sad, their lips curve downward.  The same thing is true of the other species, and no translator hand-waving can account for this.  At least the name "Samara" sounds exotic enough that it could pass as foreign for the average Westerner.

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Another way to look at it is they (Asari) are not humanoid.They were in the story long before humans.We are Asarinoid.

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Just found this thread, and wanted to pop in to show my support for Samara.
*pop-in* I love Samara! She's amazing! *pop-out*

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Plakto wrote...

I personally, would love to see Samara change her mind, or at least feel some the involuntarily pull to reconsider after seeing Shepard succeed in the light of all kinds of outrageous obstacles. I would like her to decide not to lose another moment with the already short lived Shepard now that the galaxy is literally falling apart around them.

Given how old Samara is, their lifespans might not be that different.

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Xilizhra wrote...
Given how old Samara is, their lifespans might not be that different.


Pretty sure Samara is only 600-700 years old.