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[HolyAvenger]

I like celibate!Samara. I hope they keep that about her. The almost kiss is one of my favourite scenes (and lines) in ME2.

[Han Shot First]

HolyAvenger wrote...

I like celibate!Samara. I hope they keep that about her. The almost kiss is one of my favourite scenes (and lines) in ME2.

That is one of my favorite scenes in Mass Effect 2 as well.

Before the release of Mass Effect 2 Samara was one of the people rumored to be a romance option, based mostly I assume on her modelesque looks. I suppose the thinking among the fanbase went that Bioware wouldn't have put a hot Asari squadmate in the game unless she was also romanceable.
 
Going into Mass Effect 2 unspoiled I thought she was a really interesting character as well, and planned on romancing her with one of my Shepards. But in retrospect I think the way Bioware handled it was fantastic. I like that she has her own agenda and can't be swayed from her vows by Shepard. While I think she could have made an interesting romance option had Bioware wrote the character differently, at this point I wouldn't want, "In another time, another life" to mean "in the sequel."

Shepard should totally have the option of trying to woo her in Mass Effect 3, but I think it should end with similar results.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 08 février 2012 - 04:11 .

[SlottsMachine]

By KenLyns from the motivational thread.

[CrutchCricket]

I can appreciate why a Samara romance is attractive. I don't see it as working (at least not with my Shepard) but I can see how it might for some, once the Reapers are defeated.

[Fidget6]

gearseffect wrote...

4.Does the Code forbid a Justicar from having serious romantic relatoinship?

Samara answers this in ME2. The justicar code does not forbid romantic relationships, but it is her own personal choice not to pursue one.

[ZehnWaters]

Fidget6 wrote...

gearseffect wrote...

4.Does the Code forbid a Justicar from having serious romantic relatoinship?

Samara answers this in ME2. The justicar code does not forbid romantic relationships, but it is her own personal choice not to pursue one.

Which makes me sad because she's my favourite ME2-introduced character.  I get it though, imagine how awkward it would be for her to have kids with you.  Her other daughters would totally feel jipped.

[CrutchCricket]

ZehnWaters wrote...
I get it though, imagine how awkward it would be for her to have kids with you.  Her other daughters would totally feel jipped.

Fiction idea!

I mean I won't do it, but it'd be interesting to explore.

[Dr. Doctor]

CrutchCricket wrote...

I can appreciate why a Samara romance is attractive. I don't see it as working (at least not with my Shepard) but I can see how it might for some, once the Reapers are defeated.

I can't really see a traditional romance path working with Samara. Perhaps an ending where the two of them head off to fight injustice together in a galaxy that's putting itself back together.

[Han Shot First]

[gearseffect]

I could dig a ended where Samara and Shep ride off into the galaxy like a space version of a good Bonnie and Clyde, but I'd dig it if Samara were Romance able, also I could dig it if she were not so long as Bioware gives us more of a reason into why not, as it stands we've got a bland reason.
Samara has been hunting her child for 400 years, and this is the reason she became a Justicar, all her kids were Ardat-Yaksi, and killing one has been her life goal now that that's done what does she do and what happened to her BondMate?

[CrutchCricket]

gearseffect wrote...

I could dig a ended where Samara and Shep ride off into the galaxy like a space version of a good Bonnie and Clyde, but I'd dig it if Samara were Romance able, also I could dig it if she were not so long as Bioware gives us more of a reason into why not, as it stands we've got a bland reason.
Samara has been hunting her child for 400 years, and this is the reason she became a Justicar, all her kids were Ardat-Yaksi, and killing one has been her life goal now that that's done what does she do and what happened to her BondMate?

Actually the reasons are fairly well explained. Once a justicar you are justicar for life. So she can't just up and quit now that Morinth is gone. She has to follow the Code for the rest of her days. This would present several problems in a romance:
1. Presumably the Code compells her to actually seek out injustice as opposed to just reacting to it. So it's not like she can just retire to some uninhabited moon and do whatever simply because there's no one to commit injustices. Thus she's constantly on the move which puts a strain on relationships. Also this is similar to the Jedi rule of non-attachment because attachment can interfere or even impede their dedication to the Force or in this case the Code. I know that's done away with in the New Jedi Order but still.
2. Her partner may commit injustices which she is forced to act on. Murder's the biggest moodkiller. She had to go through the pain of hunting her own child. She doesn't want to open the possibility of having to hunt her lover. And perhaps a bigger concern for her is if she actually fails to follow the code because of personal feelings. She can't allow herself to get compromised.

On the other hand, she can presumably swear an oath to her lover the way she does to Shepard. But again that oath is probably not meant for a lifetime and would likely have additional clauses which prevent it from being used as a giant loophole.

[idoless24]

I'm glad Samara is not a romance option. Shep shouldn't get a choice out of everyone just because she's the protagonist. The fact that Samara rejects her advances because of a higher purpose adds more layers to her character that I like very much.

For the first half of my first playthrough I actually used Samara almost all the time then I switched to Jack and Grunt for comedic reasons (and because they're awesome too).

[gearseffect]

To me the Code is open to interpretation as are Samara's views the "Code don't forbid romantic relationships" but to me the way Samara acted about it I kinda of viewed it as the Code allowed for casual sex and nothing more.

To me a Justicar is basically an Asari version of The Punisher from Marvel Comics.
But everything about the code that don't have to deal with Punishing is a bit vague and open to interpretation.
But maybe I'm seeing it in too many shades of grey and not just black and white.

[GuardianAngel470]

CrutchCricket wrote...

gearseffect wrote...

I could dig a ended where Samara and Shep ride off into the galaxy like a space version of a good Bonnie and Clyde, but I'd dig it if Samara were Romance able, also I could dig it if she were not so long as Bioware gives us more of a reason into why not, as it stands we've got a bland reason.
Samara has been hunting her child for 400 years, and this is the reason she became a Justicar, all her kids were Ardat-Yaksi, and killing one has been her life goal now that that's done what does she do and what happened to her BondMate?

Actually the reasons are fairly well explained. Once a justicar you are justicar for life. So she can't just up and quit now that Morinth is gone. She has to follow the Code for the rest of her days. This would present several problems in a romance:
1. Presumably the Code compells her to actually seek out injustice as opposed to just reacting to it. So it's not like she can just retire to some uninhabited moon and do whatever simply because there's no one to commit injustices. Thus she's constantly on the move which puts a strain on relationships. Also this is similar to the Jedi rule of non-attachment because attachment can interfere or even impede their dedication to the Force or in this case the Code. I know that's done away with in the New Jedi Order but still.
2. Her partner may commit injustices which she is forced to act on. Murder's the biggest moodkiller. She had to go through the pain of hunting her own child. She doesn't want to open the possibility of having to hunt her lover. And perhaps a bigger concern for her is if she actually fails to follow the code because of personal feelings. She can't allow herself to get compromised.

On the other hand, she can presumably swear an oath to her lover the way she does to Shepard. But again that oath is probably not meant for a lifetime and would likely have additional clauses which prevent it from being used as a giant loophole.

I thought the chief reason Jedis forbid romance was because it created strong emotions, which could lead to the dark side. Which I hear is a bad thing sometimes (*ahem* Darth Vader/Jolee's wife *ahem*)

[Xilizhra]

Actually the reasons are fairly well explained. Once a justicar you are justicar for life. So she can't just up and quit now that Morinth is gone. She has to follow the Code for the rest of her days.

Incorrect. She could leave, she just doesn't want to. Unless other justicars would hunt her down if she did, but in that case, I believe it's safe to say that the whole order is evil and corrupt, and she has a moral obligation to leave anyway (I actually think she already has one, this'd just make it moreso).

Modifié par Xilizhra, 10 février 2012 - 02:22 .

[CrutchCricket]

Xilizhra wrote...

Actually the reasons are fairly well explained. Once a justicar you are justicar for life. So she can't just up and quit now that Morinth is gone. She has to follow the Code for the rest of her days.

Incorrect. She could leave, she just doesn't want to. Unless other justicars would hunt her down if she did, but in that case, I believe it's safe to say that the whole order is evil and corrupt, and she has a moral obligation to leave anyway (I actually think she already has one, this'd just make it moreso).

I'm pretty sure you can't just up and quit. That would undermine the whole depth of the devotion Justicars have to the Code. If it was a regular job, what'd be the point of holding them in such high esteem and never questioning their judgement?

Better yet, do you have a source that says they can quit?

[GuardianAngel470]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Actually the reasons are fairly well explained. Once a justicar you are justicar for life. So she can't just up and quit now that Morinth is gone. She has to follow the Code for the rest of her days.

Incorrect. She could leave, she just doesn't want to. Unless other justicars would hunt her down if she did, but in that case, I believe it's safe to say that the whole order is evil and corrupt, and she has a moral obligation to leave anyway (I actually think she already has one, this'd just make it moreso).

I'm pretty sure you can't just up and quit. That would undermine the whole depth of the devotion Justicars have to the Code. If it was a regular job, what'd be the point of holding them in such high esteem and never questioning their judgement?

Better yet, do you have a source that says they can quit?

I think it was implied or in some way stated in one of her conversations with Shepard. Don't know which one.

[Captain Iglo]

You see Samara in the new femshep trailer


at 1:11

[Pinkflu]

[Asenza]

yaaaaay Samara!!!!

[Crocodiles]

Or is it Morinth?


(I hope it's Samara. I love her to bits)

[Ice Cold J]

Captain Iglo wrote...

You see Samara in the new femshep trailer


at 1:11

Damn, you beat me to it.

Crocodiles wrote...

Or is it Morinth?


(I hope it's Samara. I love her to bits)

I'd be willing to bet that, whoever you saved in her loyalty mission, that character will appear in this instance in ME3.

Pinkflu wrote...

[Xilizhra]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Actually the reasons are fairly well explained. Once a justicar you are justicar for life. So she can't just up and quit now that Morinth is gone. She has to follow the Code for the rest of her days.

Incorrect. She could leave, she just doesn't want to. Unless other justicars would hunt her down if she did, but in that case, I believe it's safe to say that the whole order is evil and corrupt, and she has a moral obligation to leave anyway (I actually think she already has one, this'd just make it moreso).

I'm pretty sure you can't just up and quit. That would undermine the whole depth of the devotion Justicars have to the Code. If it was a regular job, what'd be the point of holding them in such high esteem and never questioning their judgement?

Better yet, do you have a source that says they can quit?

So, what happens if one tries?

[NICKjnp]

And we all return

[NICKjnp]

I don't mind if it is Samara or Morinth.