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Samara! I want her dressed as a Samurai for Halloween or you know... alternate outfit.

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Kabanya101 wrote...

Samara is the single best character from ME2, aside from the repeats of ME1, she is number one above all the new ones, such as Thane and Miranda.


I know you said this 8 months ago but it still holds true to me even to this day.

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Hmm now that i think about it, if Shepard and Samara have a romance in ME3 and fall in love it would actually be cool since Samara is old enough. So when Shepard dies from old age then Samara won't have much time anyway since she is quite (very?) old ? Anyway i think, that it would be cool to see something like that, since Liara is barely a 100 years old and Samara quite the opposite.

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“You're different from anyone I've met... I think I could find more than happiness with you.”

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Xilizhra wrote...
So, what happens if one tries?

That's a good question. I don't know. I would think if they just up and stopped doing what they were supposed to they would be hunted down for breaking the code. Solitary exile may also be an option if they went back to HQ. Hope they give us more details in ME3 (or publish additional works that feature Justicars)

Also saw the badass walking in the new trailer. Nice. Hope that thing I heard about ME2 characters being in their loyalty outfits if loyal is true. I prefer her black outfit to her red one.

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One of my favorite female characters of any game. I hope she's more than just a cameo.

Modifié par slimgrin, 11 février 2012 - 02:04 .


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Does anyone know, if the ME3 art book contains concept art for Samara?

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Crocodiles wrote...

Does anyone know, if the ME3 art book contains concept art for Samara?


I too would be interested in the answer to that question.

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Deventh wrote...

Hmm now that i think about it, if Shepard and Samara have a romance in ME3 and fall in love it would actually be cool since Samara is old enough. So when Shepard dies from old age then Samara won't have much time anyway since she is quite (very?) old ? Anyway i think, that it would be cool to see something like that, since Liara is barely a 100 years old and Samara quite the opposite.]


Hence the reason I want to not only romance Samara but ya know... something more permanet. Also Samara said she has no interest in meaningless sex it would have to be something more in the relationship then just straching the itch, bumping uglies, Friends with Benifits.

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CrutchCricket wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
So, what happens if one tries?

That's a good question. I don't know. I would think if they just up and stopped doing what they were supposed to they would be hunted down for breaking the code. Solitary exile may also be an option if they went back to HQ. Hope they give us more details in ME3 (or publish additional works that feature Justicars)

Also saw the badass walking in the new trailer. Nice. Hope that thing I heard about ME2 characters being in their loyalty outfits if loyal is true. I prefer her black outfit to her red one.

If hunting is the case, then I think it's fair to say the order is evil/corrupt.

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Xilizhra wrote...

If hunting is the case, then I think it's fair to say the order is evil/corrupt.

Meh. Evil's a point of view. And I think you have far more serious charges you can lay at their feet if you want to call them evil. Look no further than killing your own child because of a genetic defect.

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My canon Femshep with Samara and Legion in lotsb, I enjoy using the two together (sorry about the quality I used a regular camera)

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Can't wait to see more of her in ME3

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CrutchCricket wrote...
Meh. Evil's a point of view. And I think you have far more serious charges you can lay at their feet if you want to call them evil. Look no further than killing your own child because of a genetic defect.

No Ardat-Yakshi is ever killed until they have actually killed someone. In which case, that AY is not killed because of a genetic defect, that AY is killed because she is a murderer.

Modifié par MisterJB, 11 février 2012 - 05:40 .


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CrutchCricket wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

If hunting is the case, then I think it's fair to say the order is evil/corrupt.

Meh. Evil's a point of view. And I think you have far more serious charges you can lay at their feet if you want to call them evil. Look no further than killing your own child because of a genetic defect.

 

That would be perfect my good Cricket expect...thats not the reason why Samara killed her daughter... like JB no AY has been killed because of being an AY.

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Samara pic of the day:
http://desmond.image....jpg&res=medium

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Deventh wrote...

Samara pic of the day:
http://desmond.image....jpg&res=medium


"I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite ME2 squadmate on the Normandy."

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Ice Cold J wrote...

Deventh wrote...

Samara pic of the day:
http://desmond.image....jpg&res=medium


"I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite ME2 squadmate on the Normandy."


I'm Commander Shepard and this is my Favorite Pic on the boards.
I'm lusting after Samara Ba-Boing, This pic is so uplifting.
When Samara is a Matriarch she will be a MILF! Matriarch I'd Like to F***.

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MisterJB wrote...
No Ardat-Yakshi is ever killed until they have actually killed someone. In which case, that AY is not killed because of a genetic defect, that AY is killed because she is a murderer.

Really? And what do they do with the ones who just run away? Remember if one is diagnosted they must immediately go into seclusion. But if they just run and get intercepted before they manage to kill anyone I wonder if they'll have any more leniency.

I think more data is needed to know for sure one way or another. But my point stands. If you want to call the Justicars evil there's plenty more you can lay at their feet before you get to "termination proceedures".

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gearseffect wrote...
I'm lusting after Samara Ba-Boing, This pic is so uplifting.
When Samara is a Matriarch she will be a MILF! Matriarch I'd Like to F***.


LMAO!!! Posted Image

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We need to spread the Samara love <3 not many people posting here :(
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Deventh wrote...

We need to spread the Samara love <3 not many people posting here :(
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Ohh, great picture!

@CrutchCricket,

According to the codex, there are certain degrees of the disorder, and only the most severe cases of ardat-yakshi are put in isolation. The question is, "Why run?" Isolation isn't experimental torture and physical and psychological abuse, like what Jack suffered. Samara said, "When an ardat-yakshi is diagnosed, they are offered a life of comfort and seclusion". Why run, except to cause trouble, to kill?

It is selfish and stupid, since their disorder makes them a danger to others. And if they run, they are completely aware of that.

Modifié par Asenza, 12 février 2012 - 01:20 .


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Deventh wrote...

We need to spread the Samara love <3 not many people posting here :(
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Where did this screen shot take place at in ME2 I don't remember seeing it or is it fan art?
Wait I know it's my Shepards POV as he Lays Samara on his bed to romance her. Oh Yeah, gigidy, gigidy

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The screenshot is from the derelict collector ship mission, when the trap is sprung and one of the squadmates stumbles.

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On second thought, I don't think it is. She lacks the breather mask.

Modifié par Lizardviking, 12 février 2012 - 01:30 .


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Asenza wrote...
@CrutchCricket,

According to the codex, there are certain degrees of the disorder, and only the most severe cases of ardat-yakshi are put in isolation. The question is, "Why run?" Isolation isn't experimental torture and physical and psychological abuse, like what Jack suffered. Samara said, "When an ardat-yakshi is diagnosed, they are offered a life of comfort and seclusion". Why run, except to cause trouble, to kill?

It is selfish and stupid, since their disorder makes them a danger to others. And if they run, they are completely aware of that.

Well first we acknowledge the codex is basically the Wikipedia of the ME universe.

Otherwise I don't think ardat-yakshis come in degrees. You can't be 20% space vampire. Either you kill people when you meld with them, or you don't. If you do, you have to go into isolation. Sure it may not be torture. I never said it was. But to some, even a comfortable pampered cage is a cage nonetheless. I don't think Morinth ran because she wanted to kill people for the lulz. I think she ran because she wanted to be free. (Probably the same with any others that may have done so in the past). Can you really blame any sentient for wanting freedom? That she got addicted to the killing is a separate issue.

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Lizardviking wrote...

The screenshot is from the derelict collector ship mission, when the trap is sprung and one of the squadmates stumbles.

"EDIT"

On second thought, I don't think it is. She lacks the breather mask.


It's at the Collector base.

This is after the baby reaper was defeated and Shepard rolls her over to find out she's still alive.

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CrutchCricket wrote...

Asenza wrote...
@CrutchCricket,

According to the codex, there are certain degrees of the disorder, and only the most severe cases of ardat-yakshi are put in isolation. The question is, "Why run?" Isolation isn't experimental torture and physical and psychological abuse, like what Jack suffered. Samara said, "When an ardat-yakshi is diagnosed, they are offered a life of comfort and seclusion". Why run, except to cause trouble, to kill?

It is selfish and stupid, since their disorder makes them a danger to others. And if they run, they are completely aware of that.

Well first we acknowledge the codex is basically the Wikipedia of the ME universe.

Otherwise I don't think ardat-yakshis come in degrees. You can't be 20% space vampire. Either you kill people when you meld with them, or you don't. If you do, you have to go into isolation. Sure it may not be torture. I never said it was. But to some, even a comfortable pampered cage is a cage nonetheless. I don't think Morinth ran because she wanted to kill people for the lulz. I think she ran because she wanted to be free. (Probably the same with any others that may have done so in the past). Can you really blame any sentient for wanting freedom? That she got addicted to the killing is a separate issue.


The codex exists to flesh out details that you wouldn't come across in gameplay. It only exists to provide information for conversations such as this.


"Contrary to popular belief, Ardat-Yakshi are neither extremely rare (around one per cent of asari dwell on the AY spectrum),
nor are they all murderers. Most cultivate and discard countless exploitative or abusive relationships during their legally marginal lives. As a disproportionately wealthy species, asari employ their economic reach and media ownership to hide the AY pathology from the galactic community, placing most Ardat-Yakshi in monitored work programs or seclusion. Only the most aggressive cases are sentenced to sanitaria and prisons or to the execution lists of justicars."


It is clear that the lethality of the disorder (to others) is the only way to differentiate aggressive cases, as evidenced by  the line that, "nor are they all murderers". Keeping 1% of a growing population in food, clothing and shelter for their entire millenia can't be a sustainable financial practice no matter how wealthy the government, so it stands to reason that not all of them are locked up. That would only be feasable if not all of them are deadly to their partners.

Freedom is one thing, a four-hundred year killing spree is another. If Morinth had gotten free and uhh, not killed people, she'd be free to be free. But she didn't. Ultimately it doesn't matter what her original intentions were, because of what she did with her freedom. Morinth is not a freedom fighter. She is just a hedonist that gets high when she kills people.

They were going to lock her up to stop her from killing people. Not because they were infringing on her rights, or because an uncaring government and society looked down on her. They were going to do it because she was a danger to others. She ran away and started killing people, proving them right.

Morinth was wrong.

Modifié par Asenza, 12 février 2012 - 04:49 .