There's that image floating around of the leaked new multiplayer classes. One of the classes is the Asari Justicar. Seems to me that the image is a fake, or there will be new one-species classes (which I think is cool), and the "Asari Justicar" class ability for the asari will be renamed to Asari Commando. Really makes no sense for the asari characters to be former Justicars. I don't think that that's how it even works. Justicar 4 life.
Samara the Justicar Support Thread
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#1327
Posté 29 mars 2012 - 01:13
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gearseffect wrote...
Ohh I got an idea for your fanfic AshiraShepard. Since Samara is the only remaining Justicar maybe she disbands it, the Path of the Justicar has to be one chosen. The Order don't openly seek recruits, and so Samara sees it as a sign maybe? It was fate that her path and Ashira crossed and they fell in love, and it was fate that the She was the only Justicar left, so she retires and finds peace and happiness with Ashira?
Perhaps...even if I put my characters through hell I eventually like to give them a happy ending just to make all the suffering worth it. "Earn Your Happy Ending."
#1328
Posté 29 mars 2012 - 01:54
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Do you have the link to this image? if so can you PM me it?
Oh and on the Justicar Suicide if breaking the Code it's all BS to me. I tended to feel that Suicide was frowned upon by the Code.
Hell in ME3 I felt BW treated me like a idiot, they acted like everything was above my head and I was just supossed to accept what I'm told and do what I'm told. I couldn't comprehend it anyway. The Crucible, Genophage Cure, Shroud Sabotage, those are just a few of the things that made me feel like BW treated me like some dumb grunt, I was supposed to not comprehend it like Marcus Fenix and the Lambent in GOW3.
SPOILERS
Sorry about that detour anyway In ME3 BW seemed to want everyone on the ME2 SM, to be able to commit Suicide in ME3. It was a plague that could affect Samara, Tali, Kelly Chambers, oh and the Self-Sacrifice plague affected Mordin, Legion, Thane and could also affect Grunt. Next BW also came up with ways to have Jack, Miranda, and Jacob Taylor die in ME3.
Not sure if Garrus, Zaeed, Kasumi, Gabby and Ken caught this plague too. It was a plague that unquestionably went on in ME3 and BW is to blame for it, (For me I can't see this having anything to do with EA).
END SPOILERS
All those out of character things never were touched on and explained what led to them. Instead it was more down treating, your dumb don't think about anything other than what is in front of ya. There's no way you can possilbey understand this stuff anyway so we won't try and help you understand it.
Go write Fanfic if you need to understand this Cr@p, because we don't think you can understand any of it.
Opps sorry for that long rant and detour of sorts. The thing about Justicar's having to commit suicide if they brake the Code, just opened up my giant bag of sh!t that I'm still apparently dealing with.
Oh and on the Justicar Suicide if breaking the Code it's all BS to me. I tended to feel that Suicide was frowned upon by the Code.
Hell in ME3 I felt BW treated me like a idiot, they acted like everything was above my head and I was just supossed to accept what I'm told and do what I'm told. I couldn't comprehend it anyway. The Crucible, Genophage Cure, Shroud Sabotage, those are just a few of the things that made me feel like BW treated me like some dumb grunt, I was supposed to not comprehend it like Marcus Fenix and the Lambent in GOW3.
SPOILERS
Sorry about that detour anyway In ME3 BW seemed to want everyone on the ME2 SM, to be able to commit Suicide in ME3. It was a plague that could affect Samara, Tali, Kelly Chambers, oh and the Self-Sacrifice plague affected Mordin, Legion, Thane and could also affect Grunt. Next BW also came up with ways to have Jack, Miranda, and Jacob Taylor die in ME3.
Not sure if Garrus, Zaeed, Kasumi, Gabby and Ken caught this plague too. It was a plague that unquestionably went on in ME3 and BW is to blame for it, (For me I can't see this having anything to do with EA).
END SPOILERS
All those out of character things never were touched on and explained what led to them. Instead it was more down treating, your dumb don't think about anything other than what is in front of ya. There's no way you can possilbey understand this stuff anyway so we won't try and help you understand it.
Go write Fanfic if you need to understand this Cr@p, because we don't think you can understand any of it.
Opps sorry for that long rant and detour of sorts. The thing about Justicar's having to commit suicide if they brake the Code, just opened up my giant bag of sh!t that I'm still apparently dealing with.
#1329
Posté 29 mars 2012 - 02:01
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On the one hand, I think it would be fascinating to see Samara remain a Justicar in this new galaxy. Just because the Order isn't actively seeking members, doesn't mean that asari won't come to it seeking to become Justicars. That's where Samara comes in. On the other hand, I think that the asari species as a whole has a unique opportunity to redefine itself, following the revelations in ME3. Maybe it's time for their old things to pass away, so their new things can come in to being.
#1330
Posté 29 mars 2012 - 02:02
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AshiraShepard wrote...
gearseffect wrote...
Ohh I got an idea for your fanfic AshiraShepard. Since Samara is the only remaining Justicar maybe she disbands it, the Path of the Justicar has to be one chosen. The Order don't openly seek recruits, and so Samara sees it as a sign maybe? It was fate that her path and Ashira crossed and they fell in love, and it was fate that the She was the only Justicar left, so she retires and finds peace and happiness with Ashira?
Perhaps...even if I put my characters through hell I eventually like to give them a happy ending just to make all the suffering worth it. "Earn Your Happy Ending."
Now I'm sad again. BW why you told the fans "You will all be able to get the ending you want the most no matter what it is. You just may have to replay the series to get it. As all is not as it seems, things you did or didn't do may stop you from getting that ending you want. But it is there"
I'm sad again. I spent so much time in that universe attempting to get the Happy Endings I wanted and can't get any of them. Fanfic is the best source of salvation.
I'm with you I wanted to have some sort of happy ending for all my characters have been through.
Sorry BW you told us this was our story, our Shepards, our choices and that lead to these being OUR characters. Which I think BW forgot at some point.
Sorry about that airing of my sad, hurt, and broken fanboy spirit.
#1331
Posté 29 mars 2012 - 02:05
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*hugs* You're not alone in still having to deal with the sh*t the game gave us. 
I'm kind of retarded though in that when I'm playing the game I kind of get stuck in to the point where certain things fly over my head at the time and only later do I get all fridge logic about it.
Like the Shroud, I thought that was actively keeping the atmosphere intact. Won't said atmosphere be totally screwed now because the Shroud is gone? Wut.
But back to Samara -
As I said before, the one thing that really bothered me about the monastery mission is Rila strangling Falere and no one moving a muscle.
That is the one instance where something happened that seemed so out of character to me that I snapped out of "OMGTHESTORY" mode and went - outloud - "Samara? What...why aren't you... *strangling stops* YOU DIDN'T EVEN MOVE. WHAT."
Seriously.
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When in doubt, blame E.A. Because E.A. /flawlesslogic
Seriously though, I want them to come out with something hilariously clever in april because after all the talk about "wildly diverging endings" and "amazing definitive endings" and the "16 different endings" and "it won't be an A, B, C choice" and basically everything they said about how the trilogy would end...
This is just retarded.
I have never been happier about being a writer that I may ignore this travesty in writing in favour of my own.
I'm kind of retarded though in that when I'm playing the game I kind of get stuck in to the point where certain things fly over my head at the time and only later do I get all fridge logic about it.
Like the Shroud, I thought that was actively keeping the atmosphere intact. Won't said atmosphere be totally screwed now because the Shroud is gone? Wut.
But back to Samara -
As I said before, the one thing that really bothered me about the monastery mission is Rila strangling Falere and no one moving a muscle.
That is the one instance where something happened that seemed so out of character to me that I snapped out of "OMGTHESTORY" mode and went - outloud - "Samara? What...why aren't you... *strangling stops* YOU DIDN'T EVEN MOVE. WHAT."
Seriously.
EDIT:
When in doubt, blame E.A. Because E.A. /flawlesslogic
Seriously though, I want them to come out with something hilariously clever in april because after all the talk about "wildly diverging endings" and "amazing definitive endings" and the "16 different endings" and "it won't be an A, B, C choice" and basically everything they said about how the trilogy would end...
This is just retarded.
I have never been happier about being a writer that I may ignore this travesty in writing in favour of my own.
Modifié par AshiraShepard, 29 mars 2012 - 02:22 .
#1332
Posté 29 mars 2012 - 02:31
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Premier Bromanov wrote...
On the other hand, I think that the asari species as a whole has a unique opportunity to redefine itself, following the revelations in ME3. Maybe it's time for their old things to pass away, so their new things can come in to being.
And that is what I can work with, thank you. *scurries away*
#1333
Posté 29 mars 2012 - 07:25
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AshiraShepard wrote...
*hugs* You're not alone in still having to deal with the sh*t the game gave us.
I'm kind of retarded though in that when I'm playing the game I kind of get stuck in to the point where certain things fly over my head at the time and only later do I get all fridge logic about it.
Like the Shroud, I thought that was actively keeping the atmosphere intact. Won't said atmosphere be totally screwed now because the Shroud is gone? Wut.
But back to Samara -
As I said before, the one thing that really bothered me about the monastery mission is Rila strangling Falere and no one moving a muscle.
That is the one instance where something happened that seemed so out of character to me that I snapped out of "OMGTHESTORY" mode and went - outloud - "Samara? What...why aren't you... *strangling stops* YOU DIDN'T EVEN MOVE. WHAT."
Seriously.
EDIT:
When in doubt, blame E.A. Because E.A. /flawlesslogic
Seriously though, I want them to come out with something hilariously clever in april because after all the talk about "wildly diverging endings" and "amazing definitive endings" and the "16 different endings" and "it won't be an A, B, C choice" and basically everything they said about how the trilogy would end...
This is just retarded.
I have never been happier about being a writer that I may ignore this travesty in writing in favour of my own.
Thanks, couldn't agree more with ya, April best have something from them.
I also tend to get sucked into a game and it's not till after it that all the plot holes sink in and than I'm like "ohh mm wow WTF?" It was hard for me to get into ME3, it wasn't until Wrex was back that I felt that it was a ME3 game. Too much autodialogue, it was hard to get into the groove.
Once the Genophage cure came in and then seeing Bailey get shot, I was hands down in the Zone. Thanes death was the one that kicked me most, and that's out of any of the deaths in the whole series, say what you will about how Thane got shafted (which I agree with any saying he was treated like cr@p) his fight with Kai, and then Udina, and then his dying moments in the hospital, they really pulled it off well. Most well done death in the series, just irked me how he was treated in the rest of the game before and after he died.
Anyway on Samara, Ashira did you know that the Collectors Edtion of ME3 Liara has an alternate outfit with head things like Samara's?
Ohh and here is the 2nd chapter to Awakening, Link god it was a challenge to write and I enjoyed it.
#1334
Posté 29 mars 2012 - 09:18
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Does anyone else wonder why Samara described Morinth as the "bravest and smartest" of her three daughters?
I mean...I can somewhat understand "smartest". But from what we've seen in ME3, I thought both Rila and Falere were far braver than Morinth.
I mean...I can somewhat understand "smartest". But from what we've seen in ME3, I thought both Rila and Falere were far braver than Morinth.
#1335
Posté 29 mars 2012 - 09:56
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There is only one thing I want to know...
Why does Samara have bigger boobs than 90% of all Asari?
Why does Samara have bigger boobs than 90% of all Asari?
#1336
Posté 29 mars 2012 - 10:19
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Kitaen wrote...
There is only one thing I want to know...
Why does Samara have bigger boobs than 90% of all Asari?
uh... mass effect fields
the contain the overflow of her awesome because if were to be release the galaxy would be destoryed :innocent:
maybe some Space Magic..
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#1337
Posté 29 mars 2012 - 10:30
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Barquiel wrote...
Does anyone else wonder why Samara described Morinth as the "bravest and smartest" of her three daughters?
I mean...I can somewhat understand "smartest". But from what we've seen in ME3, I thought both Rila and Falere were far braver than Morinth.
By bravest, I think Samara meant that Morinth ran, knowing full well the consequences of her choice. She knew that her mother would not just let her go in peace. It's not a clean-cut and "good" bravery, but it's a form of bravery to dash for a slice of life rather than be locked up and tucked away in a monastery.
There's also something Garrus says that strikes me as fitting for this: he admires his enemy because doing otherwise would be to devalue and underestimate what you are up against. After a 400 hundred year hunt, it's almost expected that she has to gain an understanding of Morinth and perhaps, in a way, admires how strong she is (without any of this detracting from being fully aware of what she must do).
I admit I can find it a bit strange how Samara sometimes paints Morinth out to be nothing more than a homocidal demon, and in the next turn aches because of how much she does love her daughters, but it's also an essential part of her inner character conflict.
... This is an epic amount of word vomit, sorry.
#1338
Posté 29 mars 2012 - 02:43
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"... This is an epic amount of word vomit, sorry."
B*tch please. *cracks fingers*
So I was having this thought in the shower, because I seem to have a lot of ideas when I'm pretty much boiling my own skin off (hot water, yay!) and it was about how Morinth was handled. I thought, "hey, what if they put her in the same place as Samara but with her own god damn dialogue this time? How would it have gone different?" so for the sake of keeping my own headcanon intact I'm going to use Sheploo for this "script."
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Shepard and Co. arrive at the monastery and make their way into the first room they've seen to not be completely dark. A cannibal is quickly killed by a warp field on the floor below them, they can see over a balcony railing; the person who killed it walks into view.
Shepard: Morinth?
Morinth: Why am I even surprised?
Shepard: What are you doing here?
Morinth: Could ask you the same thing, but let me guess, government's still whining for this place to be bombed right?
Shepard: Something like that. You didn't answer my question.
Morinth: *crosses arms, seems to hesitate a moment* My sisters are here.
Shepard: So, what, you're here to free them?
*banshee scream*
Morinth: No time. Just get moving. *walks off*
- - Shepard and Co. fight through the outside of the monastery until they enter a different area and come across Falere trying to defend herself. Morinth promptly jumps down in front of her and kills the husk. - -
Falere: Wha...Mirala?
Morinth: Don't call me that.
Falere: Why are you here? *deep frown* Where's mother?
Morinth: *scowl* This place is crawling with those things and you're worried about where mommy is? *turns to face her* Where's Rila?
Falere: *doesn't look any friendlier* Those monsters have her, in the great hall. *she walks by the group and gestures to a dead banshee near them* They're rounding us up. Turning us into these...things.
Shepard: Is the bomb still there?
Falere: *turns around* What bomb? Aren't you here to rescue us? *steps back* You...you're just like those commandos!
Morinth: Hey! Shepard might be a bit crazy but he isn't those commandos. You're still breathing aren't you?
Falere: *glares at her sister* And how long will that last?
Morinth: *clenches her hands in the following silence but shakes her head and looks at Shepard*
Shepard: Look, we need to reach that bomb. It'll take out the Reaper forces here and we can get you out alive, deal?
Falere: What about Rila?
Shepard: If it's possible, yes.
Falere: *shakes her head and jumps to a lower level*
Morinth: Falere! *mutters* Shepard, get moving. *jumps down and follows her sister*
- - Shepard and Co. fight through the monastery again until they reach the Great Hall. - -
Morinth: *standing away from her sisters, arms crossed. Her voice is almost sad; almost* Don't bother. She's already taken.
Falere: Don't say that! *turns back to Rila, kneeling* Rila, please look at me, we have to get out of here!
Shepard: *approaches, inspecting the bomb*
Rila: *finally looks at Falere and gets to her feet. Clutches her head, eyes turn black and snarls at her sister, trying to strangle her*
Morinth: *grabs both of them and pushes Rila back* What did I just tell you!?
Falere: No...*sounds close to tears*
*banshee screams*
- - Shepard and Co. fight the reaper swarm until there's a lapse in their numbers - -
Rila: *slowly gets up again, her eyes aren't black*
Falere: Rila? *looks hopeful*
Rila: I can't...come with you. *frowns, opening one her hands to show Falere the detonator*
Morinth: Tell me you're joking...*tone is flat. Suddenly scowls* you're stronger than this, they shouldn't be able to control you!
Rila: *looks calmly at her and smiles a little* And you're stronger than both of us, Mira...
Morinth: *looks uncomfortable* Stop. Calling. Me. That.
Rila: *shakes her head, looking at Falere* Get out of here. Please. *takes her hands* I love you.
Falere: *tearing up* But...
Rila: *pushes her away gently* Please.
*banshee scream*
Shepard: We have to go. Now.
Morinth: *grits her teeth and turns away, making for the elevator*
Shepard: *grabs Falere as she's not moving*
*Scene follows the same as it does with Samara until they reach the outside of the monastery*
- - Shepard and Co. exit the lift with Falere ahead of them, obviously crying. Morinth approaches her sister after a moment's pause - -
Morinth: ...we have to leave. Reapers might come back.
Falere: *turns on her sister, glaring and with tears running down her face* What do you care?! Why did you even come here? Mother is dead isn't she? Of course she is, she would've come for us if she was alive. You already took her from us when we needed her; why wouldn't you do the same again!?
Morinth: *stonefaced but her hands clench* She could've just let me run off. Leaving the two of you was her choice, not mine.
Falere: Only because you started killing people left and right! At least we knew that was wrong!
Morinth: I ran for my freedom, I didn't run so I could kill people.
Falere: And that makes a difference? How many people have you killed, Mira? How many until your freedom is justified?
Morinth: *doesn't seem to have an answer to this*
Falere: *shakes her head in disgust* You're no better than these Reapers.
Morinth: *becomes visibly angry and grabs Falere by her throat, lifting her free hand with biotics flared* I should've known better than to come here...
*Paragon Interrupt* = Stop Morinth from killing her sister in the same manner you stop Samara from killing herself.
Shepard: *grabs her wrist* Mirala!
Morinth: *shakes her head and lets Falere go, pulling away from Shepard* Stop calling me that! Mirala is dead!
Falere: *nursing her throat* Then who came here?
Morinth: *looks back at her, a questioning frown on her face*
Falere: It wasn't the monster who's been killing people for the last four centuries; that demon doesn't care about anyone but itself.
Morinth: *looks away* No, it doesn't.
Falere: *hesitantly approaches her* So who came here then?
Morinth: *silent*
Falere: You came back for us because you're our sister. You still care about us.
Morinth: *quiet* . . . whatever helps you sleep at night. *little louder* Thanks for the help Shepard. *walks away*
Falere: *looks after her sister with a frown*
Shepard: *gestures over his shoulder* Come on, we'll get you someplace safe.
- - - Failure to follow the Paragon Interrupt results in Falere's death - - -
Shepard: I thought you came here for your sisters?
Morinth: *turns away from the body* What for? Some big happy reuion? I know better than that, Shepard...
Shepard: *crosses arms* Really?
Morinth: *glares* Yeah. Really.
Shepard: *looks at Falere's body and then back to Morinth*
Morinth: *shakes her head and starts to walk away* Thanks for the help, Shepard.
*Renegade Interrupt* = Shepard pulls a gun to the back of Morinth's head. "Your sister was right." *boom*
Shepard and Co. leave the monastery.
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The renegade interrupt purely because the renegade interrupt with Samara, from what I've heard, seems just as retarded and without reason.
But yeah. That was my thought.
And maybe later Shep talks to her in Purgatory or something?
B*tch please. *cracks fingers*
So I was having this thought in the shower, because I seem to have a lot of ideas when I'm pretty much boiling my own skin off (hot water, yay!) and it was about how Morinth was handled. I thought, "hey, what if they put her in the same place as Samara but with her own god damn dialogue this time? How would it have gone different?" so for the sake of keeping my own headcanon intact I'm going to use Sheploo for this "script."
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Shepard and Co. arrive at the monastery and make their way into the first room they've seen to not be completely dark. A cannibal is quickly killed by a warp field on the floor below them, they can see over a balcony railing; the person who killed it walks into view.
Shepard: Morinth?
Morinth: Why am I even surprised?
Shepard: What are you doing here?
Morinth: Could ask you the same thing, but let me guess, government's still whining for this place to be bombed right?
Shepard: Something like that. You didn't answer my question.
Morinth: *crosses arms, seems to hesitate a moment* My sisters are here.
Shepard: So, what, you're here to free them?
*banshee scream*
Morinth: No time. Just get moving. *walks off*
- - Shepard and Co. fight through the outside of the monastery until they enter a different area and come across Falere trying to defend herself. Morinth promptly jumps down in front of her and kills the husk. - -
Falere: Wha...Mirala?
Morinth: Don't call me that.
Falere: Why are you here? *deep frown* Where's mother?
Morinth: *scowl* This place is crawling with those things and you're worried about where mommy is? *turns to face her* Where's Rila?
Falere: *doesn't look any friendlier* Those monsters have her, in the great hall. *she walks by the group and gestures to a dead banshee near them* They're rounding us up. Turning us into these...things.
Shepard: Is the bomb still there?
Falere: *turns around* What bomb? Aren't you here to rescue us? *steps back* You...you're just like those commandos!
Morinth: Hey! Shepard might be a bit crazy but he isn't those commandos. You're still breathing aren't you?
Falere: *glares at her sister* And how long will that last?
Morinth: *clenches her hands in the following silence but shakes her head and looks at Shepard*
Shepard: Look, we need to reach that bomb. It'll take out the Reaper forces here and we can get you out alive, deal?
Falere: What about Rila?
Shepard: If it's possible, yes.
Falere: *shakes her head and jumps to a lower level*
Morinth: Falere! *mutters* Shepard, get moving. *jumps down and follows her sister*
- - Shepard and Co. fight through the monastery again until they reach the Great Hall. - -
Morinth: *standing away from her sisters, arms crossed. Her voice is almost sad; almost* Don't bother. She's already taken.
Falere: Don't say that! *turns back to Rila, kneeling* Rila, please look at me, we have to get out of here!
Shepard: *approaches, inspecting the bomb*
Rila: *finally looks at Falere and gets to her feet. Clutches her head, eyes turn black and snarls at her sister, trying to strangle her*
Morinth: *grabs both of them and pushes Rila back* What did I just tell you!?
Falere: No...*sounds close to tears*
*banshee screams*
- - Shepard and Co. fight the reaper swarm until there's a lapse in their numbers - -
Rila: *slowly gets up again, her eyes aren't black*
Falere: Rila? *looks hopeful*
Rila: I can't...come with you. *frowns, opening one her hands to show Falere the detonator*
Morinth: Tell me you're joking...*tone is flat. Suddenly scowls* you're stronger than this, they shouldn't be able to control you!
Rila: *looks calmly at her and smiles a little* And you're stronger than both of us, Mira...
Morinth: *looks uncomfortable* Stop. Calling. Me. That.
Rila: *shakes her head, looking at Falere* Get out of here. Please. *takes her hands* I love you.
Falere: *tearing up* But...
Rila: *pushes her away gently* Please.
*banshee scream*
Shepard: We have to go. Now.
Morinth: *grits her teeth and turns away, making for the elevator*
Shepard: *grabs Falere as she's not moving*
*Scene follows the same as it does with Samara until they reach the outside of the monastery*
- - Shepard and Co. exit the lift with Falere ahead of them, obviously crying. Morinth approaches her sister after a moment's pause - -
Morinth: ...we have to leave. Reapers might come back.
Falere: *turns on her sister, glaring and with tears running down her face* What do you care?! Why did you even come here? Mother is dead isn't she? Of course she is, she would've come for us if she was alive. You already took her from us when we needed her; why wouldn't you do the same again!?
Morinth: *stonefaced but her hands clench* She could've just let me run off. Leaving the two of you was her choice, not mine.
Falere: Only because you started killing people left and right! At least we knew that was wrong!
Morinth: I ran for my freedom, I didn't run so I could kill people.
Falere: And that makes a difference? How many people have you killed, Mira? How many until your freedom is justified?
Morinth: *doesn't seem to have an answer to this*
Falere: *shakes her head in disgust* You're no better than these Reapers.
Morinth: *becomes visibly angry and grabs Falere by her throat, lifting her free hand with biotics flared* I should've known better than to come here...
*Paragon Interrupt* = Stop Morinth from killing her sister in the same manner you stop Samara from killing herself.
Shepard: *grabs her wrist* Mirala!
Morinth: *shakes her head and lets Falere go, pulling away from Shepard* Stop calling me that! Mirala is dead!
Falere: *nursing her throat* Then who came here?
Morinth: *looks back at her, a questioning frown on her face*
Falere: It wasn't the monster who's been killing people for the last four centuries; that demon doesn't care about anyone but itself.
Morinth: *looks away* No, it doesn't.
Falere: *hesitantly approaches her* So who came here then?
Morinth: *silent*
Falere: You came back for us because you're our sister. You still care about us.
Morinth: *quiet* . . . whatever helps you sleep at night. *little louder* Thanks for the help Shepard. *walks away*
Falere: *looks after her sister with a frown*
Shepard: *gestures over his shoulder* Come on, we'll get you someplace safe.
- - - Failure to follow the Paragon Interrupt results in Falere's death - - -
Shepard: I thought you came here for your sisters?
Morinth: *turns away from the body* What for? Some big happy reuion? I know better than that, Shepard...
Shepard: *crosses arms* Really?
Morinth: *glares* Yeah. Really.
Shepard: *looks at Falere's body and then back to Morinth*
Morinth: *shakes her head and starts to walk away* Thanks for the help, Shepard.
*Renegade Interrupt* = Shepard pulls a gun to the back of Morinth's head. "Your sister was right." *boom*
Shepard and Co. leave the monastery.
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The renegade interrupt purely because the renegade interrupt with Samara, from what I've heard, seems just as retarded and without reason.
But yeah. That was my thought.
And maybe later Shep talks to her in Purgatory or something?
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Posté 29 mars 2012 - 03:52
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I like it Ashira.
Although I disagree with Morinth killing her last sister, I always imagined she would try her best to appear as a protective older sister for Falera. Using the fact that it was her, not Samara that came for her to gain her trust. So she could manipulate Falera into following Morinth's own path.
Well if you noticed. Liara already wear those head jewelry in her CE outfit, so the idea that it is something exclusive for Justicars was already out of the question for a long time.
Fortunetly, I found my own headcanon explaination for the head thingies.
Although I disagree with Morinth killing her last sister, I always imagined she would try her best to appear as a protective older sister for Falera. Using the fact that it was her, not Samara that came for her to gain her trust. So she could manipulate Falera into following Morinth's own path.
AshiraShepard wrote...
Partly because I'm wondering "Where
the f*ck are her head thingies is she's a Justicar?" and then going
"NO. YORK WAS RIGHT. IT'S JUST JEWLERY SHE WEARS. MY LIFE IS A LIE."
And then blithely ignoring that in favour of keeping every moment I made the symbols special in tact.
Well if you noticed. Liara already wear those head jewelry in her CE outfit, so the idea that it is something exclusive for Justicars was already out of the question for a long time.
Fortunetly, I found my own headcanon explaination for the head thingies.
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Posté 29 mars 2012 - 04:25
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I pictured her trying to distance herself from the conclusion of "I still care about my family." Considering how much the topic bothers her in ME2.
But, eh...lack of thinking about it more on my part.
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Although, I guess her actions there were influenced by my trying to figure out WHY the writers handled Morinth the way they did. And I thought, she's pretty damn sociopathic in ME2, TIM even points out that she would've been useful if not for her sociopathic tendencies.
So maybe the writers thought she wouldn't fit into ME3's emotion charged story?
But that's the thing. They could've made a crack in her armour. Her sisters? Showed her with some level of emotion. *shrug*
I don't even know anymore. Bioware. Why.
But, eh...lack of thinking about it more on my part.
EDIT:
Although, I guess her actions there were influenced by my trying to figure out WHY the writers handled Morinth the way they did. And I thought, she's pretty damn sociopathic in ME2, TIM even points out that she would've been useful if not for her sociopathic tendencies.
So maybe the writers thought she wouldn't fit into ME3's emotion charged story?
But that's the thing. They could've made a crack in her armour. Her sisters? Showed her with some level of emotion. *shrug*
I don't even know anymore. Bioware. Why.
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Posté 29 mars 2012 - 07:54
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Uhh Morinth, this is where me as a person tends to take over and disregard anything due to my own disgust for rapists.
That's one of the things that I've always liked about Samara most. She won't deny her own daughter Morinth is a psycho, it pains her because she remembers her as an innocent child, yet she did what few parents do and that's take the issue by the balls and do what needs to be done to stop it. Too many parents would rather turn a blind eye and refuse to acknowledge their child is a twisted evil psycho beyond saving.
As years pass I find that this has grown on me, and I've only come to admire it more.Just wish more parents would be like that, and not turn a blind eye to their kid being an evil sadistic psychopath.
Siblings are more willing to recognize things like this (at least in my experience, or maybe it's just me being told what I want to hear).
Blah sorry for airing my deeply ingrained disgust at parents and their blindness.
That's one of the things that I've always liked about Samara most. She won't deny her own daughter Morinth is a psycho, it pains her because she remembers her as an innocent child, yet she did what few parents do and that's take the issue by the balls and do what needs to be done to stop it. Too many parents would rather turn a blind eye and refuse to acknowledge their child is a twisted evil psycho beyond saving.
As years pass I find that this has grown on me, and I've only come to admire it more.Just wish more parents would be like that, and not turn a blind eye to their kid being an evil sadistic psychopath.
Siblings are more willing to recognize things like this (at least in my experience, or maybe it's just me being told what I want to hear).
Blah sorry for airing my deeply ingrained disgust at parents and their blindness.
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Posté 29 mars 2012 - 09:16
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Psychopath would imply a wildly different set of mental issues. Morinth is sociopathic.
In any case...
This is one of the reasons we figured why she became a Justicar in the first place, rather than just hunt Morinth down. She needed the resolve because honestly? It takes a special kind of person to be able to kill their own offspring. And usually it's because that kind of person is a monster themselves.
Samara isn't a monster, but I don't think she had that resolve to kill her daughter in the first place. She needed it hammered into her through Justicar training.
In any case...
This is one of the reasons we figured why she became a Justicar in the first place, rather than just hunt Morinth down. She needed the resolve because honestly? It takes a special kind of person to be able to kill their own offspring. And usually it's because that kind of person is a monster themselves.
Samara isn't a monster, but I don't think she had that resolve to kill her daughter in the first place. She needed it hammered into her through Justicar training.
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Posté 29 mars 2012 - 09:26
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I'd like to see the asari socially become a combination of the humans, turians, salarians and maybe even krogan. The asari do already adopt the culture of the species of the "father". There is nothing holding them back from being as productive as the humans or salarians, as militarily powerful as the turians, or as aggressive and relentless as the krogan. This asari "laziness" is a taught behavior, and like any behavior, it can be eliminated by persistence.
In fact, I just woke up from a nap with the idea in my head that the asari socially "become" the species whose culture they are born in to. So, the asari species eventually only exists only in scientific classification. Because they dissolve so seamlessly in to a culture, they become socially indistinguishable from "turian", for example, except in biology. A turian looks at a turian asari and sees only a turian. A human looks at a human asari and sees only a human. And so on. The asari are still 100% biologically asari, but their culture becomes a galactic culture.
In fact, I just woke up from a nap with the idea in my head that the asari socially "become" the species whose culture they are born in to. So, the asari species eventually only exists only in scientific classification. Because they dissolve so seamlessly in to a culture, they become socially indistinguishable from "turian", for example, except in biology. A turian looks at a turian asari and sees only a turian. A human looks at a human asari and sees only a human. And so on. The asari are still 100% biologically asari, but their culture becomes a galactic culture.
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Posté 30 mars 2012 - 04:06
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AshiraShepard wrote...
Psychopath would imply a wildly different set of mental issues. Morinth is sociopathic.
In any case...
This is one of the reasons we figured why she became a Justicar in the first place, rather than just hunt Morinth down. She needed the resolve because honestly? It takes a special kind of person to be able to kill their own offspring. And usually it's because that kind of person is a monster themselves.
Samara isn't a monster, but I don't think she had that resolve to kill her daughter in the first place. She needed it hammered into her through Justicar training.
Yeah sorry about the misterming of psychopath and sociopath.
I' wasn't here (I don't think at least) when ya all came to the consenses that Samara became a Justicar to hunt Morinth down, but I already thought that. I'm not sure when it says I registered here but I don't think I realy became active on these boards till 2011.
Anyway I wouldn't say that all people willing to kill their own offsprings are monsters, it's just that society seems to have this idea that a parent (espically a mother) is supossed to protect their children (Which both parents should protect their kids) but there are lots of ways to protect. One way is protecting them from their self, and in the sake of others.
I guess I just respect poeple who will make hard choices In ME Samara with Morinth. Ashley with Shepard. The Fact Ash never backed down from thinking Cerberus was wrong, and that she wondered quistions that were as far as I'm concerned the Right questions to be wondering, made me like her more. Just sucks BW gave her a raw deal in ME3, She lacked any true meaningful airing and dealing with the issues with Shep.
Anyway back to Samara, if a different company made more ME action figures would anyone want to see one of Samara?
I personally hated the ones that had been made, if some other company made them, I'd collect them. Hell I got the NECA Gears figures.
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Posté 30 mars 2012 - 04:27
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Thanks for those pictures, Jessica. The Smilin' Samara picture is my favorite. Always makes me smile 
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Posté 30 mars 2012 - 11:09
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Now that I think about it, I do think it's a little odd how easily Samara is subdued by Shepard during the Ardat-Yakshi Monastery mission. One would think that she'd have been taught more self-defense than that in Justicar training. Of course, if she didn't want to escape being subdued, I can see why it might appear that she has little self-defense training...
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Posté 30 mars 2012 - 11:13
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Premier Bromanov wrote...
Now that I think about it, I do think it's a little odd how easily Samara is subdued by Shepard during the Ardat-Yakshi Monastery mission. One would think that she'd have been taught more self-defense than that in Justicar training. Of course, if she didn't want to escape being subdued, I can see why it might appear she has little self-defense training...
I would have loved there being more of a struggle between Shepard and Samara in that scene. And perhaps some romance exclusive content.
I wonder how the scene should be different if Samara was romanced.
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Posté 30 mars 2012 - 12:19
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Now you got my mental hamster wheel going.
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Shepard: *grabs Samara's wrists behind she can pull the trigger*
Samara: *restrained anger* Let. Go.
Shepard: *obviously angry* Do you really expect me to do that?
Samara: *sends her head back into Shepard's nose*
Shepard: *grip loosens out of surprise; nose is bleeding now*
Samara: *gets free, turns to face Shepard with biotics flared*
Shepard: *glaring* If you're going to hurt me, fine. But I won't stop trying to save you even if my arms are legs are broken. *spreads arms*
Samara: *lifts hand*
Shepard: *expression softens* Falere just saw her sister sacrifice herself and lost the home she's had for the last four centuries. Does she really need to see this?
Samara: *pauses, seeming to rethink her actions*
- - - cue conversation about staying at the Monastery, not letting the Reapers take her alive yadda yadda - - -
*Attempted Romance Variation*
Shepard: No! *grabs Samara's wrists before she can pull the trigger*
Samara: *restrained anger; warning* Shepard...
Shepard: *angry and a little upset* Really? You expect me to just let you go?
Samara: *brief expression of regret - sends head back into Shepard's nose*
Shepard: *grip loosens out of surprise; nose is bloody now*
Samara: *gets free, turns to face Shepard*
Shepard: *looks very ready to just dive tackle the Justicar*
Samara: Shepard, stop...
Shepard: *glaring* For what!? So I can watch you die?
Samara: *looks away, her expression somewhat sad* I am fulfilling the Code as I have always done.
Shepard: *walks towards her* Well in this one instance the Code is god damn wrong.
Samara: *looks at Shepard, frowning a little* And what would you suggest?
- - - Again, conversation with Falere, Reapers etc etc - - -
Not sure if any of that is better or good or...whatever. But eh.
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Shepard: *grabs Samara's wrists behind she can pull the trigger*
Samara: *restrained anger* Let. Go.
Shepard: *obviously angry* Do you really expect me to do that?
Samara: *sends her head back into Shepard's nose*
Shepard: *grip loosens out of surprise; nose is bleeding now*
Samara: *gets free, turns to face Shepard with biotics flared*
Shepard: *glaring* If you're going to hurt me, fine. But I won't stop trying to save you even if my arms are legs are broken. *spreads arms*
Samara: *lifts hand*
Shepard: *expression softens* Falere just saw her sister sacrifice herself and lost the home she's had for the last four centuries. Does she really need to see this?
Samara: *pauses, seeming to rethink her actions*
- - - cue conversation about staying at the Monastery, not letting the Reapers take her alive yadda yadda - - -
*Attempted Romance Variation*
Shepard: No! *grabs Samara's wrists before she can pull the trigger*
Samara: *restrained anger; warning* Shepard...
Shepard: *angry and a little upset* Really? You expect me to just let you go?
Samara: *brief expression of regret - sends head back into Shepard's nose*
Shepard: *grip loosens out of surprise; nose is bloody now*
Samara: *gets free, turns to face Shepard*
Shepard: *looks very ready to just dive tackle the Justicar*
Samara: Shepard, stop...
Shepard: *glaring* For what!? So I can watch you die?
Samara: *looks away, her expression somewhat sad* I am fulfilling the Code as I have always done.
Shepard: *walks towards her* Well in this one instance the Code is god damn wrong.
Samara: *looks at Shepard, frowning a little* And what would you suggest?
- - - Again, conversation with Falere, Reapers etc etc - - -
Not sure if any of that is better or good or...whatever. But eh.
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Posté 30 mars 2012 - 01:13
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AshiraShepard wrote...
Now you got my mental hamster wheel going.
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Shepard: *grabs Samara's wrists behind she can pull the trigger*
Samara: *restrained anger* Let. Go.
Shepard: *obviously angry* Do you really expect me to do that?
Samara: *sends her head back into Shepard's nose*
Shepard: *grip loosens out of surprise; nose is bleeding now*
Samara: *gets free, turns to face Shepard with biotics flared*
Shepard: *glaring* If you're going to hurt me, fine. But I won't stop trying to save you even if my arms are legs are broken. *spreads arms*
Samara: *lifts hand*
Shepard: *expression softens* Falere just saw her sister sacrifice herself and lost the home she's had for the last four centuries. Does she really need to see this?
Samara: *pauses, seeming to rethink her actions*
- - - cue conversation about staying at the Monastery, not letting the Reapers take her alive yadda yadda - - -
*Attempted Romance Variation*
Shepard: No! *grabs Samara's wrists before she can pull the trigger*
Samara: *restrained anger; warning* Shepard...
Shepard: *angry and a little upset* Really? You expect me to just let you go?
Samara: *brief expression of regret - sends head back into Shepard's nose*
Shepard: *grip loosens out of surprise; nose is bloody now*
Samara: *gets free, turns to face Shepard*
Shepard: *looks very ready to just dive tackle the Justicar*
Samara: Shepard, stop...
Shepard: *glaring* For what!? So I can watch you die?
Samara: *looks away, her expression somewhat sad* I am fulfilling the Code as I have always done.
Shepard: *walks towards her* Well in this one instance the Code is god damn wrong.
Samara: *looks at Shepard, frowning a little* And what would you suggest?
- - - Again, conversation with Falere, Reapers etc etc - - -
Not sure if any of that is better or good or...whatever. But eh.
<3:wub:
Although you need to take into account the two squadmates there. As I doubt they will just stand there and watch. Perhaps have Samara in a quick move, bioticly throw both squadmates away after she hits Shepard?
