I was referring to Samara's motherly anguish at having to kill her own child. It's not a situation any parent would wish to live, I think...
Samara the Justicar Support Thread
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#127
Posté 10 juillet 2011 - 10:26
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Well, sure, if you have to.
If you go well out of your way for hundreds of years to do so in a culturally acceptable way, however, I think that calls for a tiny bit of difference.
If you go well out of your way for hundreds of years to do so in a culturally acceptable way, however, I think that calls for a tiny bit of difference.
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#128
Posté 12 juillet 2011 - 01:44
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#129
Posté 12 juillet 2011 - 02:18
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Ultimate squad: Samara+Garrus
I think that Justicars are a sort of unstable ally to the Asari Republic; They can fight the Republic's enemies, but if anyone friendly does anything remotely wrong (eg. Detective Anaya) then they can turn on the things they were supposed to protect. A volitile move by the Asari to create them.
I think that Justicars are a sort of unstable ally to the Asari Republic; They can fight the Republic's enemies, but if anyone friendly does anything remotely wrong (eg. Detective Anaya) then they can turn on the things they were supposed to protect. A volitile move by the Asari to create them.
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#130
Posté 12 juillet 2011 - 02:57
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strive wrote...
If she gets a romance arc, I will make a Shepard just for her.
I made a Shepard just for her. I really enjoyed her character and the stories she told.. Even when she denied me it made me want her more.. I hope they put in a romance arc..
#131
Posté 12 juillet 2011 - 03:00
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@ffej96: we still don't know if Samara would have "really" done anything. It's super convenient that she's willing to wait "just" long enough before going "super psychotic insane!".
The fear of the Justicar wrath is enough.
The fear of the Justicar wrath is enough.
#132
Posté 12 juillet 2011 - 06:51
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ummmm. I wonder if trying to persue Samara as an LI but going to someone else will have an effect in ME3...
#133
Posté 12 juillet 2011 - 07:24
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Dean_the_Young wrote...
Well, sure, if you have to.
If you go well out of your way for hundreds of years to do so in a culturally acceptable way, however, I think that calls for a tiny bit of difference.
That's why I think there's more to Samara's decision of joining the Order than an overwhelming desire to feel culturally acceptable. I feel the decision was actually quite personal. I wouldn't wan't any of my children to kill anyone; I would accept one of them being confined for life if it meant preventing it from killing someone else. One pair of broken-hearted parent is already too much.
Did Samara feel herself strong enough to do what needed to be done without the help of Justicar training and conditionning? Probably not.
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Posté 12 juillet 2011 - 09:55
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Does anyone else get the feeling that Samara is an Ardat-Yakshi?
I've been playing this game for over a month straight now with different characters and out comes. But Samara's dialogue has been growing on me. Keep in mind during this post that Samara is either a strong Biotic Asari or a Ardat-Yakshi.
In her early years she was wild and a heavy party-girl. Not a surprise there since we see many Asari doing the same thing. She states that she mated with, killed them, or just danced the night away. This points to either being cold hearted, sadistic even, or an Ardat-Yakshi. But if she is just that then how was so able to become a Justicar? The high casualty rate in the training weeds out the weak obviously but does that training weed out any AY? (Ardat-Yakshi)
Morinth is quoted in the battle as saying 'my only crime was being born with the gifts you gave me.' Many different ideas can be seen through this looking-glass as to their Biotic powers, Morinth being born with the genetic condition or Samara passing down the Ardak-Yakshi trait to her.
Who ever Samara was before, that person is long gone and been replaced with a cold and calculating Justicar. After Morinth ran she took what she says the brutal path, the honest one to find and kill her daughter. To stop her daughter from becoming just like her mother? Maybe perhaps to be a responsible Asari and stop the future serial killer?
During Shepard and Samara's last conversation where you have the option to pursue a LI with her, she shows and gives Shep' hints about her feelings both during and before hand. The code doesn't forbid romance and she makes it clear. Even stating that her interest in Shepard is outweighed by the code which she puts before her. But even during the push for a kiss she stops Shepard with a barrier. 'In another life, in another time.' Not after the mission? Not later on? And it's not that I'm frustrated that BW put a no-romance cap on her I'm just curious as to why she puts a barrier between the two. Her work as a Justicar has completely consumed her, fighting off her own drives for romance. But perhaps also the drive of the narcotic's she gets from being an Ardat-Yakshi. She would be fighting that on and off through out her many years and even push Shepard away because she doesn't want to kill him/her. But maybe because she is just so indulged in her work that she doesn't wish to relive a romance she has had before that bore fruit to three Ardat-Yakshi's.
I've been playing this game for over a month straight now with different characters and out comes. But Samara's dialogue has been growing on me. Keep in mind during this post that Samara is either a strong Biotic Asari or a Ardat-Yakshi.
In her early years she was wild and a heavy party-girl. Not a surprise there since we see many Asari doing the same thing. She states that she mated with, killed them, or just danced the night away. This points to either being cold hearted, sadistic even, or an Ardat-Yakshi. But if she is just that then how was so able to become a Justicar? The high casualty rate in the training weeds out the weak obviously but does that training weed out any AY? (Ardat-Yakshi)
Morinth is quoted in the battle as saying 'my only crime was being born with the gifts you gave me.' Many different ideas can be seen through this looking-glass as to their Biotic powers, Morinth being born with the genetic condition or Samara passing down the Ardak-Yakshi trait to her.
Who ever Samara was before, that person is long gone and been replaced with a cold and calculating Justicar. After Morinth ran she took what she says the brutal path, the honest one to find and kill her daughter. To stop her daughter from becoming just like her mother? Maybe perhaps to be a responsible Asari and stop the future serial killer?
During Shepard and Samara's last conversation where you have the option to pursue a LI with her, she shows and gives Shep' hints about her feelings both during and before hand. The code doesn't forbid romance and she makes it clear. Even stating that her interest in Shepard is outweighed by the code which she puts before her. But even during the push for a kiss she stops Shepard with a barrier. 'In another life, in another time.' Not after the mission? Not later on? And it's not that I'm frustrated that BW put a no-romance cap on her I'm just curious as to why she puts a barrier between the two. Her work as a Justicar has completely consumed her, fighting off her own drives for romance. But perhaps also the drive of the narcotic's she gets from being an Ardat-Yakshi. She would be fighting that on and off through out her many years and even push Shepard away because she doesn't want to kill him/her. But maybe because she is just so indulged in her work that she doesn't wish to relive a romance she has had before that bore fruit to three Ardat-Yakshi's.
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Posté 13 juillet 2011 - 01:34
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I don't remember Samara mentioning killing the people she mated with. Do you have the whole conversation?
Samara's always been a detached person. It's in her personality. It doesn't make her a bad person, it just makes her a detached person. A-Y may display antisocial behavior typical of socipathy, but that doesn't mean displaying antisocial (if you can call a detached personality "antisocial") makes an asari an A-Y. Morinth says that her mother was an authoritarian mother, but that doesn't make her a bad mother. Samara's always held strongly to her convictions, as we hear from her, during her story about the time she was a mercenary, and found out that the ship she was on was shipping slaves.
No one knows how asari reproduction works, not Bioware, not the Reapers. If you want to go insane, trying to wrap your mind around asari genetics, go ahead, I'll stand over here.
The Code doesn't forbid romantic involvement, but Samara said already that she wasn't interested in such a thing. She says it again, when Shepard pushes her. She says it again, implicitly, when pushing Shepard away with her barrier. Using a barrier is one way to push Shepard away, and she's an asari, and a Justicar, and meditates with an active biotic field between her hands, so I don't think it's that unusual. I don't see why you would conclude that this necessarily makes her an A-Y.
Samara's always been a detached person. It's in her personality. It doesn't make her a bad person, it just makes her a detached person. A-Y may display antisocial behavior typical of socipathy, but that doesn't mean displaying antisocial (if you can call a detached personality "antisocial") makes an asari an A-Y. Morinth says that her mother was an authoritarian mother, but that doesn't make her a bad mother. Samara's always held strongly to her convictions, as we hear from her, during her story about the time she was a mercenary, and found out that the ship she was on was shipping slaves.
No one knows how asari reproduction works, not Bioware, not the Reapers. If you want to go insane, trying to wrap your mind around asari genetics, go ahead, I'll stand over here.
The Code doesn't forbid romantic involvement, but Samara said already that she wasn't interested in such a thing. She says it again, when Shepard pushes her. She says it again, implicitly, when pushing Shepard away with her barrier. Using a barrier is one way to push Shepard away, and she's an asari, and a Justicar, and meditates with an active biotic field between her hands, so I don't think it's that unusual. I don't see why you would conclude that this necessarily makes her an A-Y.
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#136
Posté 13 juillet 2011 - 03:09
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Lezlie.Shep wrote...
Does anyone else get the feeling that Samara is an Ardat-Yakshi?
Ardat-Yakshi are sterile.
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Posté 13 juillet 2011 - 03:33
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Helm505 wrote...
Lezlie.Shep wrote...
Does anyone else get the feeling that Samara is an Ardat-Yakshi?
Ardat-Yakshi are sterile.
Also, that. I missed the simplest explanation of all...
#138
Posté 13 juillet 2011 - 06:21
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I wonder that if u try to purse a relationship with her and import it into me3 will they mention something about it?
#139
Posté 14 juillet 2011 - 12:54
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I would hope nothing "bad" comes out of it. I mean it's sorta referenced to in ME2 anyway. There's an advertisement on the Citadel that says the line "So the next time you're out on the town with [insert name here]... blahblahblah" - it only says LI names that are available to your Shepard's gender.
But it'll say "Justicar Samara" as well.
But it'll say "Justicar Samara" as well.
#140
Posté 14 juillet 2011 - 01:30
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Here's a couple of Samara banners I made, just spreading the love while trying to get better at it. 
Hope you like them.
Hope you like them.
#141
Posté 15 juillet 2011 - 07:16
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Posté 17 juillet 2011 - 05:42
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#143
Posté 20 juillet 2011 - 12:01
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Only a handful of days before Rana brings Samara to life at ComiCon, in San Diego!
#144
Posté 20 juillet 2011 - 02:13
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I support this. I really want her back on my squad. I also really want her to be a love interest.
#145
Posté 20 juillet 2011 - 02:19
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I support Samara, but suppost another Asasri i speak whit Aria T'Loak
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#146
Posté 20 juillet 2011 - 02:19
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I don't really mind that she's not a love interest. In fact, I kinda respect her for holding on to her beliefs, and remaining unobtainable... but I would melt at a chance to see Samara's regal exterior soften, even if only for a second.
That smirk..
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#147
Posté 20 juillet 2011 - 02:46
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Get rid of Vega, gimme moar Samara 
I'm on a second playthrough of ME2 and she's become one of my favourite characters along with Kasumi
I'm on a second playthrough of ME2 and she's become one of my favourite characters along with Kasumi
#148
Posté 20 juillet 2011 - 03:36
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It would be interesting if they did. That conversation with Samara implies that she does feel strongly about Shepard, but still did not want to pursue it. I suppose it would depend on how large a role Samara has in ME3, but I hope they don't just ignore what Shepard's status with Samara was. Especially because there is so much variance in how you can interact with Samara. I would hate if she acts the same toward a renegade Shepard who she told she would have to kill if she ever met them again, as toward a Paragon Shepard who was all crushing on her.Bonte15 wrote...
I wonder that if u try to purse a relationship with her and import it into me3 will they mention something about it?
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Posté 20 juillet 2011 - 04:14
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magelet wrote...
I would hate if she acts the same toward a renegade Shepard who she told she would have to kill if she ever met them again, as toward a Paragon Shepard who was all crushing on her.
Agreed. The nuances of Shepard's interactions with Samara and any other squaddie should be preserved in future (ME3) interactions. ME2 dropped the ball in this respect.
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Posté 20 juillet 2011 - 06:19
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So, just became involved in a bit of a debate...gotta go to bed shortly, but would love opinions....Some people feel Samara would feel it necessary to kill Shep for his Arrival decision, they feel no matter Samara's personal views, the code would dictate that Shep must die for the innocents he had to kill in Arrival....I would love to hear Samara supporters opinions on this please?
