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[Ashira Shepard]

ExtraBenergy wrote...

@gearseffect

I can see where you're coming from saying I'm heartless, but my reasoning was that Shep had no idea it was Samara's daughter and he didn't want to leave her there with a Reaper force of unknown size, Better to be safe than sorry.

I'm pretty sure Samara notes who Falere is... I just replayed that mission. 

@Jessica

Again, I would've interrupted the hell out of that scene if it had been there. But alas... 

Modifié par AshiraShepard, 05 avril 2012 - 02:54 .

[gearseffect]

Saberchic wrote...

AshiraShepard wrote...

Send a PM to Visii with a letter addressing Bioware about whatever ME2 LI (or all of them if you want) who's representation really mattered to you in ME3.

One indirect line of dialogue... D':

^That was a travesty! My poor Aedan Shepard wanted a small scene with Samara... even if she still would not give in. 

Is it corny that after she said Shep should be with the ones they love that my Shep just said ok and stood by her side for a bit, staring out the window with her?

Ah well, that's good to know. I'll see what I can do. I was really disappointed with no Vega and no Samara and Thane's treatment (I'm not even gonna touch Jacob's... ).

Oh god no, no, NO! WHY? It's all coming back, My Shepard was going to throw himself at Samara screaming "That's you, that's you I ONLY WANT YOU, There's no one like you, I can't wait for the nights with you I imagine the things we do, I just want to be loved BY YOU,"

Um I've aparently been dealing with the pain and heartache from that all by throwing qoutes of songs up like I just did.

Jessica1995 wrote...

I'm surprised Samara wasn't a true LI
in ME3, I mean in the conversation @ the citadel she showed admiration
for Shepard and you could tell she had feelings (esp. the way she said
goodbye). Kinda thought there would be a Paragon Interruption at that
point or something...

So we got this scene with the Paragon interrupt is it to steal a kiss?

And we got the Renegade Interupt after stopping Samara from killing herself, which triggers Shep to steal a kiss from Samara. Only works if you attempted to romance Samara.

@ExtraBennergy, I was just busting your balls over killing Falere like that. Though I could never bring myself to watch Samara die and kill her other daughter. It's one of those lines I can't cross, just like killing Wrex. I did get the Biotic god to kill himself a few times.

Also Ashira is right Samara did tell ya that Falere was her daughter, and Falere even yells "Mother what are you doing?"

Modifié par gearseffect, 05 avril 2012 - 03:53 .

[gearseffect]

Samara fans unite Visii wants some more letters from Samara fans for PAX, Please help us
http://social.biowar...ndex/10853184/1

As of last I heard Samara was trailing in at last in the LI fan letters, Come on people give me a link to a Samara group or Samara LI fan club or some other place I can go spout fourth my sells pitch and rally more Samara Knights to this most noble cause. If you don't think BW will give a sh!t, then Samara would tell you "It's an impossible cause which a Justicar can be drawn to. The Code demands that you my loyal fans and admirers stand against this injustice being thrown upon us."

We need more fans sending letters for Samara to Visii for PAX! Come on don't go down without a fight, make a stand!!!!
at the very lest give me a link to someplace I can find more willing Samara fans.
OK I'm done with the rallying call for now.

[Premier Bromanov]

I was looking at the art book that comes with the N7 CE.  It states that Samara's "mystic-warrior concept led to variations including religious headgear or crownlike adornments to imply royalty."

I'm guess that Samara's forehead doodads may be a leftover from the design period.  Another theory to throw on the pile - her forehead doodads imply "royalty".

[Saberchic]

gearseffect wrote...

Saberchic wrote...

*snip*

Oh god no, no, NO! WHY? It's all coming back, My Shepard was going to throw himself at Samara screaming "That's you, that's you I ONLY WANT YOU, There's no one like you, I can't wait for the nights with you I imagine the things we do, I just want to be loved BY YOU,"

Um I've aparently been dealing with the pain and heartache from that all by throwing qoutes of songs up like I just did.

Sorry for the painful memories. Here... have a Samara.

I can't wait for people to start making modded romance scenes for the other LIs who got shafted. Maybe we can bribe someone to do one for Samara.

Maybe they could use Liara's scene as she's an asari. Just replace her model with Samara's. 

edit: stoopid quote boundaries!

Modifié par Saberchic, 05 avril 2012 - 06:05 .

[gearseffect]

Saberchic wrote...

gearseffect wrote...

Saberchic wrote...

*snip*

Oh god no, no, NO! WHY? It's all coming back, My Shepard was going to throw himself at Samara screaming "That's you, that's you I ONLY WANT YOU, There's no one like you, I can't wait for the nights with you I imagine the things we do, I just want to be loved BY YOU,"

Um I've aparently been dealing with the pain and heartache from that all by throwing qoutes of songs up like I just did.

Sorry for the painful memories. Here... have a Samara.

I can't wait for people to start making modded romance scenes for the other LIs who got shafted. Maybe we can bribe someone to do one for Samara.

Maybe they could use Liara's scene as she's an asari. Just replace her model with Samara's. 

edit: stoopid quote boundaries!

No need to apolagize I'm just being my usual crazy self.  Now that you bring up Modded Romance scens I'm going to cry, I play on 360. I'm just screwed six ways from sunday now aint I.

That pic of Samara is one of my faves. The light and her biotics and stuff all make her look rather angelic in that pic. ohhh Samara what are we going to do, we've be denied you and denied a worthy ME conclusion. After throwing god knows how much money into ME to have it all end like this, I'd have a hard time buying anymore ME related stuff without knowing if it's really worth it or not.

I lost myself in my thoughts sorry about that, where was I.... oh yeah, I had been holding out hope for Samara to be the only LI for my main Shep, sadly now he died alone under a pile of rubble attempting to destroy some kid along with the Reapers, after he shot Anderson and the reason things ended badly is he didn't have a clear head going into that battle, the feelings Samara and he had for each other never got adressed and that's the reaons for the destruction of everything, he gave into the Reapers because there was nothing he had left to live for, their feelings were just forgotten about,  If only Samara and Shepard had addressed them things would have went done better.

[CrutchCricket]

Just wanted to repost this. This is amazing.

[Saberchic]

gearseffect wrote...

No need to apolagize I'm just being my usual crazy self.  Now that you bring up Modded Romance scens I'm going to cry, I play on 360. I'm just screwed six ways from sunday now aint I.

That pic of Samara is one of my faves. The light and her biotics and stuff all make her look rather angelic in that pic. ohhh Samara what are we going to do, we've be denied you and denied a worthy ME conclusion. After throwing god knows how much money into ME to have it all end like this, I'd have a hard time buying anymore ME related stuff without knowing if it's really worth it or not.

I lost myself in my thoughts sorry about that, where was I.... oh yeah, I had been holding out hope for Samara to be the only LI for my main Shep, sadly now he died alone under a pile of rubble attempting to destroy some kid along with the Reapers, after he shot Anderson and the reason things ended badly is he didn't have a clear head going into that battle, the feelings Samara and he had for each other never got adressed and that's the reaons for the destruction of everything, he gave into the Reapers because there was nothing he had left to live for, their feelings were just forgotten about,  If only Samara and Shepard had addressed them things would have went done better.

I'm also a 360 player, so I'd have to live vicariously through someone on youtube. But I'm sure I could bribe someone to do it. I know people online who mod their games.

In my letter to Bioware, I said that we should have gotten a dialogue option to talk about it even if that meant that we got rejected again. I felt like the closure needed to be there, more than just 1 line that actually had to be pointed out to me. That line could very well have been said to a friend Shep.

Head canon is probably the way to go. I have a feeling with the "extended cut" they are releasing, we'll just get some slides and flashy scenes to clarify what happened. I know my Aedan's last thoughts were of his sister and Samara. Nothing is going to change that.

@the pic above: That pic reminds me of her black loyalty outift. I love that outfit. As soon as I do Samara's loyalty mission, she changes into that and stays in it. IMHO, she looks better in the black and gold than the red version.

[Visii]

Today is the last day for submitting LI Letters to PAX! Deadline is Thursday, 9PM (EST!)

Here's a sneak peak of how the book of letters is coming together. Still a work in progress, still receiving letters, still need more fanart for it:
context=C460d2ceADvjVQa1PpcFMxQonNXUUjX1OX0i-PJiPzVVHNIxcxZtY=

Last chance to express yourself about how the romances went in ME3! To submit a letter, PM me or post here: http://social.biowar...ndex/10853184/4

Passionate, but polite! Write about what you liked about their appearance in ME3, what you didn't like. Were your expectations met regarding how you last saw your LI in ME2? How well do you think your particular LI(s) was/were portrayed in ME3? Were you disappointed about something related to the character?

If you've already submitted a letter (or if you want to but can't for whatever reason) this project still needs help! We're hoping to receive some fanart to put in with these letters. To make the book look pretty, and also to break the unrelenting flow of letters- we have gotten a lot! Fan-art doesn't have to be anything new, but if you have some fan-art or know someone who has some and wouldn't mind showcasing it, please post or PM me a link to it.

If it is not your work please get permission from the artist. Nothing explicit, please. Time is of the essence, we don't have much of it left!

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

So with the extended cut confirmed. What are you people's hope for the epilogue when it comes to Samara? What should it mention or show us?

[Premier Bromanov]

I'd like to know if Samara survives the battle in London. If she does, I'd like to know what she intends to do with the rest of her life. Will she remain a Justicar? If she remains a Justicar, how will she cooperate with local authorities?  Will she swear a permanent Oath of Subsumation to Shepard or a Terran authority?  If she leaves the Order, will she help this new galactic community rebuild?  How?  If she leaves the order, and Shepard expressed romantic interest in her, will she give personal happiness a chance?  Will she brave her fears (and the nonsensical intricacies of asari reproduction) and have a child with Shepard?

Lots of stuff.  I've edited my post like five times, because I keep coming up with new questions.

Modifié par Premier Bromanov, 05 avril 2012 - 08:17 .

[gearseffect]

Ya know I honestly don't want it to touch to much on Samara, Jack, Wrex, Garrus, Thane, Bailey, Kirrahee, Zaal'Koris, Ashley, Grunt, Vega, Tali, Eve, Falere, and all my other favorite characters. WHY?

Because I'm afraid, deathly afraid that it's going to make things worse, extremely worse. I really don't want to see a bunch of head stones of my favorite characters, and I don't want to see Samara by herself without Shep, I don't want to see my LI's without my Shep, and I don't want to see Eve and Wrex separated. I'm scared it's going to be worse some half @ssed attempt to get the Fans to shut up, put a big smile on and eat a giant steaming pile of sh!t.... unsalted.

At this point I'm better off with my Fanfic,WHY WHY did they do this to us WHY?

Ashira cue the five stages thing, only I never get to acceptance the other stages just go on a constant repeat cycle.

On the upside it's a hell of a motivator.

EDIT the above art, Samara looks so seductive in it, like she snuck into Sheps personal cabin and is pressed against a wall like that when Shep comes in.

Modifié par gearseffect, 05 avril 2012 - 09:15 .

[Premier Bromanov]

Looks like BIoware can't win either way, as far as gearseffect is concerned. However, you're assuming it's epilogue. What if it were to show what the various characters were doing during and shortly after the final battle, but not in the future? If I see Samara fighting in the ruins of London, tearing apart Reaper soldiers like a pro, I at least know what she was doing. If I see a shot of Jack holding a barrier over her students and Alliance soldiers as they mow down lines of Husks, I at least know what they're doing.

[Ashira Shepard]

I'll wait until we see what the DLC actually does/includes before reacting but until then...

LOLFANFICTIONZ

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

The answer here is quite interesting. Acording to Bioware Shepard can see Liara again (as long as they do certain choices), now since Liara is stuck on Gilligan's planet, that implies that long distance space travel is still plausible despite the relays destruction.

What does this have to do with Samara? Well it hints at the possibility that she can actually return to the monestary and visit her daughter after the battle for Earth.

[Ashira Shepard]

*swallows urge to spout indoctrination theory*

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

AshiraShepard wrote...

*swallows urge to spout indoctrination theory*

Bioware already said that they will only clarify the endings, not change them. That means that they will remain as they are in the sense that the game will end with those 3 choices.

So you can pretty much drop the indoctrination theory now.

[Premier Bromanov]

No no, the relays are still gone, and FTL still works. What Ms. Merizan means is that Joker & Friends did not make it to the Charon Relay, so they crash-landed near or in Sol system. Ms. Merizan indicated this in another twit. This means they can be rescued by a ship traveling via FTL. So, Samara is still stuck in Sol, along with everyone else. However, Ms. Merizan indicated in another twit it is possible to rebuild the relays. In the "destroy" ending, for example, there is Reaper tech lying scattered about everywhere. This will make rebuilding the relays a simpler task. So, maybe within Samara's lifetime, if not Shepard's, she will see Falere again.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Premier Bromanov wrote...

No no, the relays are still gone, and FTL still works. What Ms. Merizan means is that Joker & Friends did not make it to the Charon Relay, so they crash-landed near or in Sol system. Ms. Merizan indicated this in another twit. This means they can be rescued by a ship traveling via FTL. So, Samara is still stuck in Sol, along with everyone else. However, Ms. Merizan indicated in another twit it is possible to rebuild the relays. In the "destroy" ending, for example, there is Reaper tech lying scattered about everywhere. This will make rebuilding the relays a simpler task. So, maybe within Samara's lifetime, if not Shepard's, she will see Falere again.

Interesting.

If the relays are "easily" built again. I wonder what the appeal of the control ending is then.

And speaking as a Liara fan. The very first part makes me glad. Also I would appreciate links to all these tweets.

[Premier Bromanov]

It would seem the appeal of the "control" ending would be not destroying synthetics, and having control of the Reapers, for better or for worse.

Not "easily", that's misleading. But, it will be possible. Mortals won't be starting from scratch. They'll also have the work the asari did in developing their own mass relays.

Lizardviking, google "jessica merizan twitter". You'll find her tweets on there.

[Saberchic]

Lizardviking wrote...

So with the extended cut confirmed. What are you people's hope for the epilogue when it comes to Samara? What should it mention or show us?

I'd like to see where she's at. If they do an ME2 style after-the-battle scene, that would be okay. It would be good to see which companions actually survived the war.

If they decide to show more than that, I'd be really happy. I'd like to see if the Justicar order dies out or not and what she decides to do with her remaining time. A few lines of info isn't really that much to ask for.

I can totally headcanon from there.

[Premier Bromanov]

Been thinking more about the nature of Samara's suicide attempt.  I think that there are many reasons she would consider that.  I've already discussed one - that she's unable to reconcile her love of her children with her duties. 

Another reason I've been thinking about has to do with Samara and how she is willing to kill people who interfere with her observation of the Code.  The police chief at Nos Astra, for example, would have died, had Shepard not brought Samara the information she needed.  Considering this, does Samara consider killing herself because she is obstructing herself in her execution of the Code?  Also, I use the word "execution" intentionally, because, in the context of this explanation, Samara is quite literally "executing" herself, which I distinguish from ritual suicide, or just suicide.

[gearseffect]

Bioware isn't just damned any way with me. It's just leading up to ME3 at every turn BW pulled this reassuring stuff and all and they things turned out worse.

Next they don't have a set release date and we don't know jack of what this DLC is to include and all that. Further more those twitter things about "Yes if you make the right choices" umm sorry but I take that with a grain of salt, we've been told we can get the endings we want most if we make the right choices for 7 years now, and only in the last year did the game and people behind it become outwardly whacky and BS artists and sells people.

At this point I'm so beaten down and all that my outlook on all this stuff is "I'll believe it when I see it."

Am I being wrongly negative, way too cynical, and just impossible to please? Outwardly maybe, inwardly NO. I'd love to be able to have the endings I want. After playing ME3 any "good faith" Bioware had with me was lost. It's gonna take action and results to gain my faith back.

Sorry for that long overly worded airing of the continues festering wounds I've got from this whole experience.

Anyway back to Samara, I was playing ME3 MP and using the Drell Adept and he has Reeve and it's still the most bad@ss power out there. I feel like I'm being punished now because the only way to get that in the game is have Kaidan alive. He's always dead, if I could get Reeve power I may just be able to do another playthrough of ME3.

Ohh also I wanted to know what everyone's thoughts were on the Disciple Shotgun?

I personal liked it in the campaign, I play as a vanguard and the Disciple is rather lightweight so I genreally carry the Disciple, Phalanx, and Reverent for my weapons.

[gearseffect]

Saberchic wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

So with the extended cut confirmed. What are you people's hope for the epilogue when it comes to Samara? What should it mention or show us?

I'd like to see where she's at. If they do an ME2 style after-the-battle scene, that would be okay. It would be good to see which companions actually survived the war.

If they decide to show more than that, I'd be really happy. I'd like to see if the Justicar order dies out or not and what she decides to do with her remaining time. A few lines of info isn't really that much to ask for.

I can totally headcanon from there.

I'd like to know who lives too, but umm
I can't think that I just can't my choices have to be able to let everyone I like live. I really want to know who lived but I got this strange feeling BW wants to kill off as many characters as they can, that way they can continue about with the ME francise and not have to worry about characters who lived or dead in fans games showing up.

Given Liara is the only ME squad mate from the 3 games that can't die, I'm betting BW's going to cater more to her fans and shove her down our throats again.

Too bad we can't have a few little blue kids with Samara.

My heart is breaking, I need to collect myself before I burst into tears thinking too much about this latest stunt, and these thoughts of BW screwing most fans over yet again.

[Premier Bromanov]

gearseffect wrote...

Ohh also I wanted to know what everyone's thoughts were on the Disciple Shotgun?

I personal liked it in the campaign, I play as a vanguard and the Disciple is rather lightweight so I genreally carry the Disciple, Phalanx, and Reverent for my weapons.

The Disciple is great for the asari vanguard.  It's very light, so it doesn't lower Charge's cooldown too much.  Its stagger effect is nice.  It has a very asari design - elevant, curving and clean.  I like the blue color of its shot and its projectiles.  I like how it uses micromunitions to do damage.  Most of all, though, I like its firing sound.  "puh-WOW!  puh-WOW!"

Regarding the Disciple shotgun, I have headcanon for my Shepard.  It was originally crafted exclusively for Justicars.  The headcanon is that the Disciple Shepard receives in the game is Samara's.  It's original edition, so it's very old and very fine.  It's her gift to him for helping her.  It's her gift to him for being her good friend.  It's a weapon she gives to him in trust, with the hope that he will use it to swiftly defeat his foes.  I'm pretty proud of this headcanon

Modifié par Premier Bromanov, 06 avril 2012 - 06:48 .