Ok so I just realized something. Samara says it ME3 that she has no regrets, But in ME2 after you kill Morinth and go to talk to Samara she says “At last, I am free. I am a ruined vessel of sorrow and regret, but I am free.” I'm not sure what to make of that. Anyone have any thoughts? This could be just the writers being lazy but I'm not sure.
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Posté 10 juin 2012 - 10:47
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As for Shepard pulling Falere away instead of Samara, it could be because the writers wre lazy. But Premier Bromanov has a good point. I can see Samara just being away from love for to long that she has become numb/forgot the feeling of it. When Falere hugs her it was so sad to see Samara not hug her back, but its almost like she didn't really know what to do right there. I still have little bit of a problem with that because she came back for them because she's loves them. There shoudl have been alot more dailogue in that scene with Samara and Falere there. We should've been able to ask question to Falere about Samara and Samara about Falere. Get alot more information about them and about there past. But than again there should have been alot more dailogue in ME3 in general, I mean alot more.
I thought that hug was strange too, but I think Samara's armor isn't making it any easier.
This mission would have been better by having more dialogue with Falere. It was still one of the better side quests in the game and featured some nice sources for lore on the condition and a bit about monestary life. Some more clutter, like messages, journals and transmission logs would have made the place feel like there lived more than a handful Ardat-Yakshi there. It's one of the better side quests for ME3 though, and the athmosphere is great.
I miss the amount of questions ME2 offered, now Shepard accepts the most outlandish things without even being given the option to ask, like how Aria know Counsillor Tevos/Irissa. Asking Falere a few questions about the monestary life and condition would have made a noticable difference.
ME3 had more recorded dialogue than ME1 and ME2 combined, yet it does not feel that way at all.
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Posté 10 juin 2012 - 11:03
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I believe Samara did hug her back, she just hesitates for a moment.
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Posté 11 juin 2012 - 02:25
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It is strange to think that ME3 did have more dailogue recorded. It doesn't feel that way because most of the dialogue is the auto- dialogue and the ambient dialogue, the dialogue that you just hear and you cant take part in. I hated that, a little is ok but alot of those times it would have been much better to have it be an actual dialogue scene. It would have made the scene's more real and more involved. I miss those so much.Gisle-Aune wrote...
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As for Shepard pulling Falere away instead of Samara, it could be because the writers wre lazy. But Premier Bromanov has a good point. I can see Samara just being away from love for to long that she has become numb/forgot the feeling of it. When Falere hugs her it was so sad to see Samara not hug her back, but its almost like she didn't really know what to do right there. I still have little bit of a problem with that because she came back for them because she's loves them. There shoudl have been alot more dailogue in that scene with Samara and Falere there. We should've been able to ask question to Falere about Samara and Samara about Falere. Get alot more information about them and about there past. But than again there should have been alot more dailogue in ME3 in general, I mean alot more.
I thought that hug was strange too, but I think Samara's armor isn't making it any easier.
This mission would have been better by having more dialogue with Falere. It was still one of the better side quests in the game and featured some nice sources for lore on the condition and a bit about monestary life. Some more clutter, like messages, journals and transmission logs would have made the place feel like there lived more than a handful Ardat-Yakshi there. It's one of the better side quests for ME3 though, and the athmosphere is great.
I miss the amount of questions ME2 offered, now Shepard accepts the most outlandish things without even being given the option to ask, like how Aria know Counsillor Tevos/Irissa. Asking Falere a few questions about the monestary life and condition would have made a noticable difference.
ME3 had more recorded dialogue than ME1 and ME2 combined, yet it does not feel that way at all.
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Posté 11 juin 2012 - 02:28
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You might be right, she does tell Falere that she will come and visit her. When she says that you can't really tell but she might be huging her back, I hope soRikketik wrote...
I believe Samara did hug her back, she just hesitates for a moment.
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Posté 11 juin 2012 - 02:58
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Yep Samara does return Falere's hug.
Also I really missed investigate, and the dialogue wheel, another thing ME3 had less of was Paragon/Renegade dialogue choices to get things done. It was lacking so much player input and it made it that much more worse of a game. All those little things in ME1 and ME2 that were not in ME3, and the sickening amount of squad mate convos in ME3, there was so little that your squad had to say it made touring the Normandy seem like a chore not something I looked forward too.
The squad battle taunts were not in ME3.
If BW ever wants my money again they'd best do some great DLC.
Also I really missed investigate, and the dialogue wheel, another thing ME3 had less of was Paragon/Renegade dialogue choices to get things done. It was lacking so much player input and it made it that much more worse of a game. All those little things in ME1 and ME2 that were not in ME3, and the sickening amount of squad mate convos in ME3, there was so little that your squad had to say it made touring the Normandy seem like a chore not something I looked forward too.
The squad battle taunts were not in ME3.
If BW ever wants my money again they'd best do some great DLC.
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Posté 11 juin 2012 - 05:15
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You know whats kinda funny. How people say Samara isn't that important and she doesn't get alot of attention (which she really should). In ME2 her move "reave" is the most powerful special ability. Area reave was beast, and it can heal you. Just something that I thought of when I was recording some ME2 stuff for the Samara tribute Just even more props to Samara!
Just even more props to Samara!
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Posté 11 juin 2012 - 05:01
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So does anyone have any thoughts about one of my earlier posts, the one about Samara's regrets? It's just bugging me about how she said she had no regrets in ME3 but in ME2 shes says that line "I am a ruined vessel of sorrow and regret, but I am free". It just doesn't make sense why she would say that.
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Posté 11 juin 2012 - 06:47
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warlock22 wrote...
So does anyone have any thoughts about one of my earlier posts, the one about Samara's regrets? It's just bugging me about how she said she had no regrets in ME3 but in ME2 shes says that line "I am a ruined vessel of sorrow and regret, but I am free". It just doesn't make sense why she would say that.
Perhaps the reapers have put things in perspective for her. The end is now here, and I think she has now accepted what has happened with her life. Good or bad, what's done is done. She had to do what she had to do.
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Posté 11 juin 2012 - 07:08
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I guess that could be why, but she says in ME2 "I will fight and struggle all my life, I have accepted that. When I die it will not be in bed, I am at peace with that." And then Shepard goes on and says "you're still in control of the direction of your life". So to me it still doesn't really make any sence. Ahhg! They really needed to add more dialogue in the scene ( and ME3 as a whole as well) when you talk to her on the Citidel.Saberchic wrote...
warlock22 wrote...
So does anyone have any thoughts about one of my earlier posts, the one about Samara's regrets? It's just bugging me about how she said she had no regrets in ME3 but in ME2 shes says that line "I am a ruined vessel of sorrow and regret, but I am free". It just doesn't make sense why she would say that.
Perhaps the reapers have put things in perspective for her. The end is now here, and I think she has now accepted what has happened with her life. Good or bad, what's done is done. She had to do what she had to do.
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Posté 11 juin 2012 - 10:04
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I guess that could be why, but she says in ME2 "I will fight and struggle all my life, I have accepted that. When I die it will not be in bed, I am at peace with that." And then Shepard goes on and says "you're still in control of the direction of your life". So to me it still doesn't really make any sence. Ahhg! They really needed to add more dialogue in the scene ( and ME3 as a whole as well) when you talk to her on the Citidel.
I know...there was so much to ask her. So much so that the investigate option would just all be more investigates to branch off into all those questions. However knowing Bioware's current trend, the only option that would come up would be "How are you?" and then Samara would give her....old...response..
"Perhaps we could speak later. I wish to meditate."
I'd still spam the "How are you?" option >.<
A future meeting with Falere would have been nice to find out more about Samara's true self and her previous bondmate. Also we would get to know more about Falere and Rila since there really isn't anything on them at all other than they really care for eachother.
Then Samara on the Citadel....the attempted Romance...should have had SOOoo much more than just an extremely subtle yet easilly missed line. I mean, even the Final Goodbye should have had at least something, not necessarily coming from Samara but from Shepard. Since...I don't see Samara really saying anything much unless said to first.
Also if Samara were a squadmate, where would you think she'd be located on the Citadel?
I'd think she'd be located on the Normany Dock level looking out into space. She loves that great empty void :3
Then again...it doesn't really look like space out there, it's way too bright, ME1 had the view much much better.
Sadly, I don't think Samara will ever be a squadmate mainly because Starboard Observation is already taken. =/
Then again you can kick Kaidan/Ashley out....so...maybe? I wouldn't mind giving Samara the Captain's Cabin and instead of her sitting down on the floor looking into space, Samara could just lay on the bed and look out the ceiling on the window. Win-Win situation
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Posté 12 juin 2012 - 02:40
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HA Jessica I like the thought of Samara in the captains cabin, ahh I do Samara laying there on the bed whenever Shep comes into the room. Just thinking of that scene and imagining it all the feels it gave me.
I think if Samara was a squadmate I'd enjoy her being found on the Citadel by that window where she stood after Lesuss. The bright light and the way the sun came in there gave her an even more angelical vibe. It also made the fact BW changed her bright blue eyes and took stuff away from them less noticeable in my opinion the way the she had the glowing sun behind her did a great job making up for her rather darker and less shiny bright blue eyes.
As for Warlock's question about Samara's line in ME2 and then her line in ME3, I think Samara has regrets. The biggest one was she spent 400 years tracking down Morinth. 400 years she missed out on lots of time with her other two daughters. Then when she finally does decide to go see them it was a bit too late, Rila was already dead, (not literally dead), she was indoctrinated and being transformed into a monster. Samara had already faced the horror of one daughter becoming a monster, and seeing Rila going that way was more then Samara could bare.
Samara froze up unsure and just froze and didn't know how to handle it all, her duty as a Justicar was likely to kill Rila there before she became a Banshee, but she couldn't she froze.
Then when you get outside Samara is all messed up in the head, being a Justicar hunting Morinth down, being a Justicar side tracked her from visiting her other daughters until the Reapers had been seen around there. When Samara gets there she is hell bent on rescuing and getting to her other daughters, only she loses Rila and that breaks her, she's not thinking right and she attempts suicide the Justicar had managed to take so much from her, and she lost it.
After reading the files and playing ME3 and Lesuss it seems that those Monastery(ies), are kept very secret. But it seems Justicar's are there often and very intertwined with those Monasteries. Maybe Samara became a Justicar to be closer to her other daughters, maybe she wasn't even sure where they were. So she became a Justicar to be closer to them, and in the end being a Justicar and her training broke her.
I don't know what do you all think? Honestly I'd been hoping to avoid the topic of Samara's regrets and all considering much of this is planed to show up later in my fanfics, but hell why don't I share it all with ya now and get some thoughts on what I said above.
It's funny the one thing that fuels my to write and gets my creative juices flowing best is talking with fellow Samaritans, there are at least 3 of you all here who tend to get me writing,
I think if Samara was a squadmate I'd enjoy her being found on the Citadel by that window where she stood after Lesuss. The bright light and the way the sun came in there gave her an even more angelical vibe. It also made the fact BW changed her bright blue eyes and took stuff away from them less noticeable in my opinion the way the she had the glowing sun behind her did a great job making up for her rather darker and less shiny bright blue eyes.
As for Warlock's question about Samara's line in ME2 and then her line in ME3, I think Samara has regrets. The biggest one was she spent 400 years tracking down Morinth. 400 years she missed out on lots of time with her other two daughters. Then when she finally does decide to go see them it was a bit too late, Rila was already dead, (not literally dead), she was indoctrinated and being transformed into a monster. Samara had already faced the horror of one daughter becoming a monster, and seeing Rila going that way was more then Samara could bare.
Samara froze up unsure and just froze and didn't know how to handle it all, her duty as a Justicar was likely to kill Rila there before she became a Banshee, but she couldn't she froze.
Then when you get outside Samara is all messed up in the head, being a Justicar hunting Morinth down, being a Justicar side tracked her from visiting her other daughters until the Reapers had been seen around there. When Samara gets there she is hell bent on rescuing and getting to her other daughters, only she loses Rila and that breaks her, she's not thinking right and she attempts suicide the Justicar had managed to take so much from her, and she lost it.
After reading the files and playing ME3 and Lesuss it seems that those Monastery(ies), are kept very secret. But it seems Justicar's are there often and very intertwined with those Monasteries. Maybe Samara became a Justicar to be closer to her other daughters, maybe she wasn't even sure where they were. So she became a Justicar to be closer to them, and in the end being a Justicar and her training broke her.
I don't know what do you all think? Honestly I'd been hoping to avoid the topic of Samara's regrets and all considering much of this is planed to show up later in my fanfics, but hell why don't I share it all with ya now and get some thoughts on what I said above.
It's funny the one thing that fuels my to write and gets my creative juices flowing best is talking with fellow Samaritans, there are at least 3 of you all here who tend to get me writing,
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Posté 12 juin 2012 - 06:36
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Man I would love Samara to be in the captains cabin. Everytime I would go up there and seeing her would just put a big smile on my face, I would be so happy to see her.
As for her regrets, I can see that Gears. That whole time she was after Morinth she could have been with her daughters. But she did needed to stop Morinth. And seeing Rila die I do believe was to much for her to handle. Which is more the reason to have her as a LI imo. Samara needs to be with someone, after what happened with Rila it is clear she needs someone to confide in to share these burdens an I for one would be happy to share them with her.
But I'm pretty sure that people can visit their children at the monastery, I dont think you need to be a Justicar to visit. Although it is funny how she tells Falere that she will visit as a Justicar should, but she did say that she became a Justicar because of Morinth. Speaking of Morinth that was something I wanted to ask Samara, she said she became a Justicar because of her... well shes dead so why is Samara still a Justicar? She did her duty and stopped Morinth. Thats just one of the many questions I wanted to ask her.
It's almost gotten to the point to where I just want to shake Samara and say " Samara come on! Dont you see what this life has done to you?! It has forced you to be away from your family and to loose them. You have brain washed your self into believing in this code these words! Honer and duty come easy when you have nothing to loose, but ask your self this Samara. What is duty compared to a lovers love? What is honer compared to holding a new born child in your arms? You said that you will fight and struggle all your life, and that when you die it will not be in bed. But since you believe in fate is it not fate that I found you? This code has not brought you peace like you say it has, I can see threw you. Your in pain your hurting and I cant take it anymore Samara please just let me in, I can help I want to help."
Sorry that was alot more than I thought and I still had more to say, but that is what I really want to say to her. I mean she really needs a wake up call, and Shepard should be given the option to tell her this.
As for her regrets, I can see that Gears. That whole time she was after Morinth she could have been with her daughters. But she did needed to stop Morinth. And seeing Rila die I do believe was to much for her to handle. Which is more the reason to have her as a LI imo. Samara needs to be with someone, after what happened with Rila it is clear she needs someone to confide in to share these burdens an I for one would be happy to share them with her.
But I'm pretty sure that people can visit their children at the monastery, I dont think you need to be a Justicar to visit. Although it is funny how she tells Falere that she will visit as a Justicar should, but she did say that she became a Justicar because of Morinth. Speaking of Morinth that was something I wanted to ask Samara, she said she became a Justicar because of her... well shes dead so why is Samara still a Justicar? She did her duty and stopped Morinth. Thats just one of the many questions I wanted to ask her.
It's almost gotten to the point to where I just want to shake Samara and say " Samara come on! Dont you see what this life has done to you?! It has forced you to be away from your family and to loose them. You have brain washed your self into believing in this code these words! Honer and duty come easy when you have nothing to loose, but ask your self this Samara. What is duty compared to a lovers love? What is honer compared to holding a new born child in your arms? You said that you will fight and struggle all your life, and that when you die it will not be in bed. But since you believe in fate is it not fate that I found you? This code has not brought you peace like you say it has, I can see threw you. Your in pain your hurting and I cant take it anymore Samara please just let me in, I can help I want to help."
Sorry that was alot more than I thought and I still had more to say, but that is what I really want to say to her. I mean she really needs a wake up call, and Shepard should be given the option to tell her this.
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Posté 12 juin 2012 - 10:24
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I was disappointed when I took an entire playthrough to try to romance her to get into Mass Effect 3 to get no mention of it, she just holds your hand for half a second. I feel they could've done so much more with all of the Mass Effect 2 characters.
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Fully agree with this. Be sure to tell Chris Priestly on Holdtheline.com. He has asked people what they hated the most about ME3 besides the ending. http://www.holdtheli...ng-ending.2128/Maggot4ever wrote...
I was disappointed when I took an entire playthrough to try to romance her to get into Mass Effect 3 to get no mention of it, she just holds your hand for half a second. I feel they could've done so much more with all of the Mass Effect 2 characters.
Also Ive been thinking about Samara's bondmate and her doughters. Morinth looks just like Samara in almost everyway but Rila and Falere dont look like Samara but they do look like eachother. And I'm wondering if Rila and Falere got their looks from Samara's bondmate. Does anyone else think that?
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Ha Warlock, on the daughters, Morinth or Merala, looked much like her mom, one of the key differences is skin tone Samara had a much bluer skin tone, Morinth's skin tone was an ash grey. Another difference was their eyes, there again Samara's eyes had a much brighter light in them. Morinth's eyes were much darker and nearly no shine behind them.
Those key differences the skin and eyes of Samara and Morinth are a unique and clever aspect of the way they were designed.
Samara had much brighter tone and an angelic life a glow to her. Representing of good.
Morinth had a much darker tone, and a nearly mute glow to her. Representing of Evil.
Sort of like Saren and how he has machine looking parts to him. It goes along and plays well into the themes that at the start of ME1 he is in charge/leading of a synthetic army the Geth. Then on Virmire suddenly it's the Reaper myth is true and those machine parts you thought looked cool for a dude leading the Geth were really themes of Sovereign/Reapers controlling Saren. The story telling a crafting of that all ways ingenious, it bright up the Reapers every so often, but it really focused on Saren until Virmire.
Now that I'm done sharing my take and view point of the small aspects of characters.
Back to Rila and Falere, yeah I'm willing to bet they get their looks from their father Samara's Bondmate. Also wondered about their face markings, Samara don't have any really. Morinth has blotches of grey spots some even closer to black.
There again these spots can just barely be seen on Samara. But on Morinth there are clear as day.
Morinth is a stained soul, Samara nearly pure. Evil and Good yet again.
Ha see I'm showing ya all a different side of me the very keen attention to detail, those smaller characteristic traits that were not lost on me. To think a few short weeks ago I let my Mom, and a test saying I was dumb get me down.
Another thing about Rila and Falere is there again Falere had a blue skin tone, and Rila had a mor grey one, granted once she got back up with that detonator her skin had some more of a blue glow in it. And if you look really closely you notice that as the Banshee is pulling her up her skin (or the lighting shined on it) slowly starts to turn darker grey.
Yeah I'm guessing that Rila and Falere take after their father in terms of appearance,
Those key differences the skin and eyes of Samara and Morinth are a unique and clever aspect of the way they were designed.
Samara had much brighter tone and an angelic life a glow to her. Representing of good.
Morinth had a much darker tone, and a nearly mute glow to her. Representing of Evil.
Sort of like Saren and how he has machine looking parts to him. It goes along and plays well into the themes that at the start of ME1 he is in charge/leading of a synthetic army the Geth. Then on Virmire suddenly it's the Reaper myth is true and those machine parts you thought looked cool for a dude leading the Geth were really themes of Sovereign/Reapers controlling Saren. The story telling a crafting of that all ways ingenious, it bright up the Reapers every so often, but it really focused on Saren until Virmire.
Now that I'm done sharing my take and view point of the small aspects of characters.
Back to Rila and Falere, yeah I'm willing to bet they get their looks from their father Samara's Bondmate. Also wondered about their face markings, Samara don't have any really. Morinth has blotches of grey spots some even closer to black.
There again these spots can just barely be seen on Samara. But on Morinth there are clear as day.
Morinth is a stained soul, Samara nearly pure. Evil and Good yet again.
Ha see I'm showing ya all a different side of me the very keen attention to detail, those smaller characteristic traits that were not lost on me. To think a few short weeks ago I let my Mom, and a test saying I was dumb get me down.
Another thing about Rila and Falere is there again Falere had a blue skin tone, and Rila had a mor grey one, granted once she got back up with that detonator her skin had some more of a blue glow in it. And if you look really closely you notice that as the Banshee is pulling her up her skin (or the lighting shined on it) slowly starts to turn darker grey.
Yeah I'm guessing that Rila and Falere take after their father in terms of appearance,
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Even a little hope would have been nice. I don't see her abandoning the code, but maybe Samara suggesting that once all this Reaper business is out of the way, then she might re-assess her lot. Doesn't necessarily need to be a solid statement of undying love, but something! Anything!
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Oh I think if she were to be back on the ship and if ME3 had been what we were promised well Shep could continue to push for something, and I think it would require clever uses of the dialogue wheel.
I remember how in ME2 when I first played it I only wanted Samara (Still do) and when ya go down to talk with her and she says "You have been a good friend" I reloaded that part about a dozen times because I chose the wrong dialogue choice, and then when I got the near kiss scene my god I was like 'Oh wait what, what oh yeah I'm gonna get to come back down here later and bring this up, I'm not gonna let this be" Damnit my Shep wasn't allowed to bring it up. I was so heartbroken.
I think that there is no reason why after many a long talks and all that Samara could be convinced that she needs to stop running from love stop fighting love, and that they should take their chance and try their shot at things while they still can because they may never get another chance.
It could also lead up to a wonderfully done scene like Liara's. Yeah Samara as full LI/Romance baby.
I do not think that it would be too far fechted for Samara to fall in love during the Reaper war, and the Code does not forbid romantic relationships and as far as I can tell it don't have anything against friends just not many Justicars have them. A Justicar being in a relationship is perfectly possible for me.
Plus I would so enjoy seeing if my Shep did something that went against the code Samara shoots him in the back of the head, that would be killer. Maybe like if Shep kills Mordin and then dooms the Krogan race, and Wrex dies, maybe such an act as dooming a race when you could save them is against the code, if Shep does that and becomes involved with Samara having her shoot Shep in the back of the head would be sweet.
I also thought in ME2 if you didn't get Miranda as loyal, if you took her along with ya to fight the Reaper, when TIM pops up and tells ya to keep the base. I thought it would have been sweet given Miranda isn't loyal to Shep but she's a Cerberus loyalist it would have been sweet if she shot Shep in the back of the head, and the game ended with a different cut scene where Shep's dead but everyone who would have made it out alive still does just not Shep.
I remember how in ME2 when I first played it I only wanted Samara (Still do) and when ya go down to talk with her and she says "You have been a good friend" I reloaded that part about a dozen times because I chose the wrong dialogue choice, and then when I got the near kiss scene my god I was like 'Oh wait what, what oh yeah I'm gonna get to come back down here later and bring this up, I'm not gonna let this be" Damnit my Shep wasn't allowed to bring it up. I was so heartbroken.
I think that there is no reason why after many a long talks and all that Samara could be convinced that she needs to stop running from love stop fighting love, and that they should take their chance and try their shot at things while they still can because they may never get another chance.
It could also lead up to a wonderfully done scene like Liara's. Yeah Samara as full LI/Romance baby.
I do not think that it would be too far fechted for Samara to fall in love during the Reaper war, and the Code does not forbid romantic relationships and as far as I can tell it don't have anything against friends just not many Justicars have them. A Justicar being in a relationship is perfectly possible for me.
Plus I would so enjoy seeing if my Shep did something that went against the code Samara shoots him in the back of the head, that would be killer. Maybe like if Shep kills Mordin and then dooms the Krogan race, and Wrex dies, maybe such an act as dooming a race when you could save them is against the code, if Shep does that and becomes involved with Samara having her shoot Shep in the back of the head would be sweet.
I also thought in ME2 if you didn't get Miranda as loyal, if you took her along with ya to fight the Reaper, when TIM pops up and tells ya to keep the base. I thought it would have been sweet given Miranda isn't loyal to Shep but she's a Cerberus loyalist it would have been sweet if she shot Shep in the back of the head, and the game ended with a different cut scene where Shep's dead but everyone who would have made it out alive still does just not Shep.
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However, it would mean having to play ME1 through 2 again. I'd have to either not have an LI prior to 2, or choose someone really boring I don't really care about lol. I'm looking at you, Alenko.
I couldn't bare shunning Liara, even if for Samara, it's just not fair on the young adorable asari.
I couldn't bare shunning Liara, even if for Samara, it's just not fair on the young adorable asari.
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I can totally respect that. Wait your a dude and you plays as a FemShep. I've never been able to play as a FemShep, just not my thing. Well when I found out the exclusive stuff to Thane's character if he's FemShep's LI in ME2 I'd be willing to but I can't bring myself to do that after ME3.
I find that as I got older I was less attracted to Liara. Hell one of the reasons she became my canon ME1 LI is back when I first played ME1 and got to Virmire, when I had to send someone with Kirrahee I chose to send Kaidan. Thinking that whoever I sent was gonna end up dead with the Salarians. Ohh boy was I wrong I had to chose to go save Ashley or Kaidan and the Salarains, I chose to save as many people as I could which meant Kaidan and the Salarians. I remember feeling like I'd been shot in the stomach from that decision. I remember just sitting there stunned as the after mission brief went on and my Xbox shut it's self off because I didn't chose any dialogue options.
Another factor of why I never chose Ashley as a canon LI is by the time I was getting around to doing a playthrough with her as a LI a friend of mine had wanted Ashley but couldn't get her, because she was playing FemShep, and she can't stand playing as DudeShep, so I created another Shep to romance Ashley, hell she was over all the time and watched me play that Sheo.
So I never had Ashley as my cannon Shep's LI.
By the end of 2010 the only LI I found attractive is Samara. She's got it all personality, she's strong, smart, capable, independent, thinks for herself, and challenges me to think more, very intellectual, she's got the most wonderful eyes and I'm a sucker for eyes. Also personality and making me think is a huge turn on for me.
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I find that as I got older I was less attracted to Liara. Hell one of the reasons she became my canon ME1 LI is back when I first played ME1 and got to Virmire, when I had to send someone with Kirrahee I chose to send Kaidan. Thinking that whoever I sent was gonna end up dead with the Salarians. Ohh boy was I wrong I had to chose to go save Ashley or Kaidan and the Salarains, I chose to save as many people as I could which meant Kaidan and the Salarians. I remember feeling like I'd been shot in the stomach from that decision. I remember just sitting there stunned as the after mission brief went on and my Xbox shut it's self off because I didn't chose any dialogue options.
Another factor of why I never chose Ashley as a canon LI is by the time I was getting around to doing a playthrough with her as a LI a friend of mine had wanted Ashley but couldn't get her, because she was playing FemShep, and she can't stand playing as DudeShep, so I created another Shep to romance Ashley, hell she was over all the time and watched me play that Sheo.
So I never had Ashley as my cannon Shep's LI.
By the end of 2010 the only LI I found attractive is Samara. She's got it all personality, she's strong, smart, capable, independent, thinks for herself, and challenges me to think more, very intellectual, she's got the most wonderful eyes and I'm a sucker for eyes. Also personality and making me think is a huge turn on for me.
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#1946
Posté 13 juin 2012 - 09:51
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I tried once as Sheploo to see the romance with Ash, but that got only as far as Eden Prime and I couldn't take it any more lol. Sorry, Mark Meer, but you just don't do it for me. But then, no matter the RPG, I always go a female character. But for ME, I love Jennifer Hale. On the Ashley front, I think they messed up Ash, she was interesting in ME1. Then they forced the plot shield for ME2 so she couldn't die but didn't really appear, then the hot and cold friendship in ME3, it all went wrong somehow.
Sorry, here's a pic to apologise for my off topic rant-ette:
Odd expression and persed lipped Samara:
Sorry, here's a pic to apologise for my off topic rant-ette:
Odd expression and persed lipped Samara:
Modifié par MrStoob, 13 juin 2012 - 09:56 .
#1947
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 02:11
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Oh my goddess MrStoob I need to find a bigger version of that pic. Any chance you got one? Or know where you got that one?
Her eyes and eye lashes I think I may faint. Have mentioned how stunningly beautiful she is? Have I mentioned how much I like her voice, her voice is so very erotic. Have mentioned how much I like everything about her? I have OK.
Do you think she'd find a very dry, monotone, mumbling, soft spoken, mush mouthed dudes voice sexy? No likely not, my voice is anything but sexy. Oh well maybe she'd find my build sexy, or my personalty, umm wait on second thought If Samara were real, I'd be so scared and too shy to even approach her. Because despite my rather outgoing personality online, I'm rather well reserved in real life, and much less outgoing and loud.
Her eyes and eye lashes I think I may faint. Have mentioned how stunningly beautiful she is? Have I mentioned how much I like her voice, her voice is so very erotic. Have mentioned how much I like everything about her? I have OK.
Do you think she'd find a very dry, monotone, mumbling, soft spoken, mush mouthed dudes voice sexy? No likely not, my voice is anything but sexy. Oh well maybe she'd find my build sexy, or my personalty, umm wait on second thought If Samara were real, I'd be so scared and too shy to even approach her. Because despite my rather outgoing personality online, I'm rather well reserved in real life, and much less outgoing and loud.
#1948
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 08:24
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Random search on google, gears. Here's the link, but it's not much more detailed:
http://utopianoverlo...ost/14957764404
http://utopianoverlo...ost/14957764404
#1949
Posté 14 juin 2012 - 08:40
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I hear yeah on that one Gears, I'm not sure I could even approach Samara. I'd be to afraid of saying something stupid or wrong and have it offend her. About Falere and Rila's face markings, I think those are somewhat like tattoo's for asari. The one asari on Illium who has the krogan boyfriend talks about how asari dye their scalps different shades of blue, so I imagine that those marks are similar to tattoos.
And I fully agree with you about it not being far fetched on Samara falling in love with Shepard during the war with the reapers. It could be the end of all things (and as far as the ending went it was) she wont get another chance. Which just brings me back to that little rant on my last post, having a chance to talk to Samara about fate. Saying that she is meant to struggle and be alone like this. Being able to tell her that maybe its fate that I found you, and that we are meant to be together. I think Samara would see that is a strong argument, to show her that there is someone out there for her. Who can show her love and happiness, and show her that she can have a family again. And just so people don't get the wrong idea, family doesn't mean she has to have kids with Shepard. I personally would love that and it is possible that she would to, but family can also mean her Shepard and Falere or just her and Shepard.
And I fully agree with you about it not being far fetched on Samara falling in love with Shepard during the war with the reapers. It could be the end of all things (and as far as the ending went it was) she wont get another chance. Which just brings me back to that little rant on my last post, having a chance to talk to Samara about fate. Saying that she is meant to struggle and be alone like this. Being able to tell her that maybe its fate that I found you, and that we are meant to be together. I think Samara would see that is a strong argument, to show her that there is someone out there for her. Who can show her love and happiness, and show her that she can have a family again. And just so people don't get the wrong idea, family doesn't mean she has to have kids with Shepard. I personally would love that and it is possible that she would to, but family can also mean her Shepard and Falere or just her and Shepard.
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Posté 14 juin 2012 - 08:45
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Ha cool MrStoob as for what you called a rant about Ashley rant I liked her in ME1 and ME2 the brief time she had I really even liked her more, her reaction to Shep coming back from the dead was more of the type of reaction I'd expect from someone you'd served with and liked as a friend, she has all these messed up thoughts running through her head.
ME3 yeah they destroyed her makeover was really bad and I hated it, her characters personality was about as messed up and flippy floppy as they come. It all ruind Ashely for me in ME3, that's another thing I intend to correct in my fanfic. Ashley and what time she had, and the conversations, and Thane will be fixed too.
f*ck it if BW don't want to fix ME3 than I damn sure will fix my Sheps ME. And do things the way I want. Thane and Samara, Ashley, and every other thing.
Oh boy I am really going all out in the reworkings of my Fanfics. The stuff I got is gonna blow peoples mind (I hope).
ME3 yeah they destroyed her makeover was really bad and I hated it, her characters personality was about as messed up and flippy floppy as they come. It all ruind Ashely for me in ME3, that's another thing I intend to correct in my fanfic. Ashley and what time she had, and the conversations, and Thane will be fixed too.
f*ck it if BW don't want to fix ME3 than I damn sure will fix my Sheps ME. And do things the way I want. Thane and Samara, Ashley, and every other thing.
Oh boy I am really going all out in the reworkings of my Fanfics. The stuff I got is gonna blow peoples mind (I hope).
