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Ha Warlock missed your post as I was typing up my own.

Yeah fate, I like that, I'm a believer in faith, fate is why sh!t happens in my life.

Yep Shep and Samara little blue children make me giddy and happy. I want little blue Shep/Samara babies.

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gearseffect wrote...

Ha Warlock missed your post as I was typing up my own.

Yeah fate, I like that, I'm a believer in faith, fate is why sh!t happens in my life.

Yep Shep and Samara little blue children make me giddy and happy. I want little blue Shep/Samara babies.


Liara is proof that a matriarch-stage asari can have and raise a child, but 50-60 years of childhood and samara being almost thousand wanting to die fighting rather than settling down. There are people are suggesting Liara jump into the next stage of life 250 years early, which makes -- by far -- less sense.

There is at least a guarantee that a child with Shepard will not develop the Ardat-Yakshi condition and -- given survival of ending -- Shepard have at least enough time left to live to see an asari child raised. In the end, Samara still have Falere, who deserves better after centuries of absense.

Modifié par Gisle-Aune, 14 juin 2012 - 04:30 .


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Gisle-Aune wrote...

gearseffect wrote...

Ha Warlock missed your post as I was typing up my own.

Yeah fate, I like that, I'm a believer in faith, fate is why sh!t happens in my life.

Yep Shep and Samara little blue children make me giddy and happy. I want little blue Shep/Samara babies.


Liara is proof that a matriarch-stage asari can have and raise a child, but 50-60 years of childhood and samara being almost thousand wanting to die fighting rather than settling down. There are people are suggesting Liara jump into the next stage of life 250 years early, which makes -- by far -- less sense.

There is at least a guarantee that a child with Shepard will not develop the Ardat-Yakshi condition and -- given survival of ending -- Shepard have at least enough time left to live to see an asari child raised. In the end, Samara still have Falere, who deserves better after centuries of absense.


I think Samara would live to see her child in the hundreds. Not late hundrends mind you but she is I think 746 years old. And Shepard I'd say is in his/her 30 to mid 30s, and he/she will live longer than a normal human due to the synthetics in him/her. So I think that Shepard and Samara would life about the same amount of years till they died.

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@Gisle-Aune, ya know the age difference is not much an issue for me. It's more the life span issue, My Shep I don't think would be willing to have kids with Liara, he'd die long before she would, and he'd be leaving his wife and kids alone.

Now Samara with her age chances are her and Shep would die at roughly the same time, closer together. And Falere would still be around for a long time just as any kids Shep and Samara had. It's a bit more comforting then the other scenario for me at least.

Again this is more of my own personality in Shep. As I really have a hard time just turning my back on friends, family, and other people I'm close with From what I've been told that sort of loyalty is hard to find in people.

I don't know if that's true or not. Anyway I'll stop before I continue on with my weird insane thoughts. I'm warped that's all there is to it.

Speaking of warped did Samara ever have the Warp power in ME2 I can't remember right off hand

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@warlock22, I'd guess she's at least 823 (matron stage beginning + Falere's age), though "almost thousands" suggest somewhere in the 900s. Shepard is 31/32 (Born april 11 2154). She does say she have centuries left, so somewhere in the 800s might not be unreasonable to assume.

@Gearseffect, that seems reasonable. Liara will be ~225 if Shepard dies at roughtly 150. Falere could perhaps be trusted to be around for the child if both Shepard and Samara die, as Falere deserves freedom after at least 430 years in that monastery.

Samara adoesn't have Warp in ME2 according to her Wikia page, but only 3 biotic attacks seems strange for an asari biotic who is that old, so this is most likely due to game mechanics only having squadmates with 4 powers in ME2.

Modifié par Gisle-Aune, 22 juin 2012 - 10:41 .


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One thing I gotta say though Gears when we talked about how Rila and Falere got their looks from their father, I have to say that Rila has her mothers eyes :)

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Really I never noticed that Rila had Samara's eyes. I'll have to look

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Gisle-Aune wrote...

gearseffect wrote...

Ha Warlock missed your post as I was typing up my own.

Yeah fate, I like that, I'm a believer in faith, fate is why sh!t happens in my life.

Yep Shep and Samara little blue children make me giddy and happy. I want little blue Shep/Samara babies.


Liara is proof that a matriarch-stage asari can have and raise a child, but 50-60 years of childhood and samara being almost thousand wanting to die fighting rather than settling down. There are people are suggesting Liara jump into the next stage of life 250 years early, which makes -- by far -- less sense.


It is known that not all asari go threw their life stages the same way or the usual way. You can have an asari in 800s acting like they are in their 200s, and vice versa.

Modifié par warlock22, 16 juin 2012 - 05:49 .


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Yep what Warlock said, just like people. Also just because an Asari don't think she'd ever want a family (again as in Samara's case), don't mean she wouldn't ever meet someone who reawakened those desires again. Or Awakening blahahaha tease tease

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So you know the crew in ME2 was going to be changed in ME3 due to them being around Shepard and what he did for them in ME2. Some of the ones in ME3 were obvious, like Jack when she says that alittle bit of you robbed off on her so she joined the military. I think Shepard may have had something to do with Samara going o get Rila and Falere. Because as a Justicar she has to go were she is most needed.

Now they did say that the reapers were harvesting AY because of their unstable biotics. But I don't think there were that many people there. There must have been other places she could have gone that would benefit from her help more. I think Shepard got her thinking on whats important to her, her family.

Oh and when people say that Samara cant change because those are her beliefs she just woudn't do it. Look at Mordin, he defended the genophage up,down,left and right. He was right and there was no way of changing his mind he said it was necessary. But in ME3 he finally admits that he was wrong, he even yells it at you. So if he can change and show how he truley feels then so can Samara.

Modifié par warlock22, 16 juin 2012 - 09:40 .


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Yeah, Warlock I think Shepard could change Samara, I just think she'd need much more effort and circumstances, time and patience than most anyone else. I don't know if Shep could have had a hand in Samara going to see Rila and Falere when she did. I know My Shep would have wanted her to visit them sooner, and encouraged her to do so.

I think Samara just was busy, letting the Justicar side run her and she didn't got to Rila and Falere until the galaxy was crumbling down.

Sadly it was too late.

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I've been thinking about how BioWare could get the Samara romance story in the right direction. Rila and Falere do love their mother. Rila didn't show anything but Falere did, and I think that there should be a data recording of Falere's, her diary. I think that Falere would say she hopes her mother is doing well and in there should be something along the lines of her saying that she doesn't blame Samara for her or her sisters conditions. And that she hopes her mother finds someone to be with.

Or what might be better is if Samara find the recording and hears about how Falere hopes shes doing well and that she doesn't blame Samara for her or her sisters conditions. Then Samara talks to Falere and Falere finds out how much Samara has blamed her self, and sees how much pain she is in. Then Falere could say how she just wants her mother to be happy, and that she wishes that her mother does find someone to be with. (You could also have a recording of Rila as well, and have her say that she doesn't blame her mother and that she loves her. Which I think she would.)

You could also have more dialogue for Shepard so he could hint to Falere that he/she loves Samara. Then Falere could say that she wants her to be happy, and that she should be with someone. There a lot of different ways this could happen, I just thought I'd share :)

Also I never really thought about this until now. In ME2 when you start the attempted romance with Samara, in order for you to start it the dialogue option in on the bottom. The bottom dialogue option has for the most part always been the renegade option. I really really hope that wasn't BioWare hinting "hey you don't want to do this" I don't think so. It seems for that scene I look at it as the dialogue wheel was shaped for her prospective. She wants you to be her friend, but her code would not want you to say "I want more" option. Could be just me over thinking it, which I probably am :) Just thought it was interesting.

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Samara was cool she needed to be in ME3 way more.... :T

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Code_R wrote...

Samara was cool she needed to be in ME3 way more.... :T


Agreed. She really should have had a big role in how you get the asari inlisted. As well as a full LI and squadmate but thats a give in here :)

Modifié par warlock22, 18 juin 2012 - 04:51 .


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If there were a DLC with Samara as an important character and LI, how would you prefer Bioware to handle her being dead in ME2? I want this kind of DLC too, but ME3 players without ME2 (save to import) should be able to get their money's worth. "Don't buy this DLC if the character is dead" would be really, really bad advertizing. She will be the selling point for ME2 players, but there need to be one newcomers.

I'm not fighting against Samara DLC, I want it as much as anyone in here. What kind of mission would you imagine being perfect to include Samara in and what kind of character would you think as a good equialent to what Padok Wiks is to Mordin Solus?

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Hey everyone I wanted to show more support for Samara and the group, so I made a website dedicated to her and the group. It's nothing complex and things can always be added or changed. It was just something fun I wanted to do, to show my appreciation for the group and the form. Check it out! :D

http://gunmetalchees...#!home/mainPage

@Gisle-Aune for a mission, I think Samara would be perfect for the Thessia mission. It would also be cool if you went to the Justicar temple or whatever they call it. Get some more knowledge on the Justicars and hear it from Samara, as well as her point of view maybe :)

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warlock22 wrote...

Hey everyone I wanted to show more support for Samara and the group, so I made a website dedicated to her and the group. It's nothing complex and things can always be added or changed. It was just something fun I wanted to do, to show my appreciation for the group and the form. Check it out! :D

http://gunmetalchees...#!home/mainPage

You really should remove music from there. Also blue text is hard to read on blue background (I mean, that left part of Samara art). Anyway, good job!

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bool.exe wrote...

warlock22 wrote...

Hey everyone I wanted to show more support for Samara and the group, so I made a website dedicated to her and the group. It's nothing complex and things can always be added or changed. It was just something fun I wanted to do, to show my appreciation for the group and the form. Check it out! :D

http://gunmetalchees...#!home/mainPage

You really should remove music from there. Also blue text is hard to read on blue background (I mean, that left part of Samara art). Anyway, good job!

Thx! I wasn't sure about the blue text, it looked good but I wanted to see if people could read it. But the music I'm going to keep, if you want you can always pause the music :P

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bump for spreading the support.

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I changed the pages to a white text, should be easier to read now :)

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Hey Samara peeps! I was on Face Book and I ran into a page that was made by HTL. Its about getting our LI in ME3, and making the current ones better. I noticed their banner which was a awesome one, but it didn't have Samara in it. I talked to the person in charge and they are going to add her asap :) Here's the link http://www.facebook....303815659703107

I'm also in the works of setting up a Samara initiative with their help, as well as a facebook page :) I will keep you all posted on whats happening.

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Trailer for the new "Dredd" movie is out. Unofficially, anyway. After watching it, I thought how awesome it would be to have Samara and a Justicar neophyte in a similar situation.

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Here is the new banner for #forourLI with Samara added to it :D
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Hey Samaritans!  Thought I would share the Samara love (my poor Abel Shepard....unrequitedImage IPB).  Anyway, I am working on a photo album project in the Thane Group, and chose Samara's RM as one of my missions to photograph.  Thought I would drop this off for fun:

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You've been Justicarified!

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coldwetn0se wrote...

Hey Samaritans!  Thought I would share the Samara love (my poor Abel Shepard....unrequitedImage IPB).  Anyway, I am working on a photo album project in the Thane Group, and chose Samara's RM as one of my missions to photograph.  Thought I would drop this off for fun:

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You've been Justicarified!

Thats great thanks! Let us know when the album is done, would love to see it! :)
And by the way Samaritans the #ForSamara'sLove facebook page is up! So swing on by, join and help spread the word :D