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[Augustei]

Just sayin', The Rachni choice in number 1 is a great oppotunity to shut up the renegades about how well treated the paragons are lol. I mean sure they probably were indoctronated against their will and completely innocent in the rachni wars.

But its the simple fact that they are a hive mind race that will bite the *** of those who spared the queen. I mean it only takes the queen to get indoctrinated to have the whole race turn against you. If the reapers have indoctrinated them before then they will know this and already could have planned for it. They have experience indoctrinating queens and so could easily do so again, unless the queen is a liar and their race really is agressive and hostile. So the choice is bad either way =P

Just my two cents anyway. What you guys think?

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 16 juin 2011 - 09:24 .

[Bogsnot1]

Firstly, they would have to find the queen, wouldnt they? Its not like they automatically know the location of every single creature in existance.
Maybe I just spared the queen because I had so much fun stomping bugs, I decided to stock up for more fun later.

[esollus]

I think I will do a mission and pass a paragon speech check then have a rachni armada at my disposal.

[Augustei]

esollus wrote...

I think I will do a mission and pass a paragon speech check then have a rachni armada at my disposal.

Wishful thinking =P

Besides *SPOILERS*
There are already Rachni Husks so you have already increased enemy numbers by sparing her =D

Then again its probably wishful thinking on my part that sparing her is a bad choice since I killed her lol

[True Zarken]

I think the Rachni is another topic which has been talked about frequently that has one of the biggest chances to screw Paragon Shepard over the most. But! No civilization (that I know of) has access to the information that is the new Rachni home world. And if they didn't move to a new world that's just lazy.

But you're right the Rachni do have a high probability that they'll screw Paragon Shepard over but you could say that about a lot of the decisions Paragon Shepard makes. The Geth, The Krogan, Destroying the Collector base to name a few. But you can also say the same thing about Renegade Shepard as s/he is not leaving him/herself with enough resources to fight the Reapers with.

Maybe Bioware is going to end the story with a no matter which way you defeat the reapers you're screwed?

XxDeonxX wrote...
Wishful thinking =P

Besides *SPOILERS*
There are already Rachni Husks so you have already increased enemy numbers by sparing her =D

Then again its probably wishful thinking on my part that sparing her is a bad choice since I killed her lol

Were they actually confirmed to be Rachni Soldiers?

Modifié par True Zarken, 16 juin 2011 - 09:39 .

[Bnol]

We don't know where the Queen is, thus it is unlikely that the Reapers do. The Queen could be situated in the "northern" part of the galaxy away from the front line of the reaper invasion. Also, the Rachni might not provide troops, but instead might provide massive production/repair, which was hinted at in ME2 in terms of repairing the spaceship of the Asari and it working better than ever. Further, I highly doubt that any story decisions will actually affect either the types of enemies you fight, nor the difficulty of the various encounters. They will have a way to splinter off races/organizations to fight you.

[neubourn]

Wouldnt even have to indoctrinate her, if the Queen just happens to die somehow (at the Reapers hands or not), well there goes all your "songs" and peace. Lets all hope the Queen lives forever and the Rachni can sing their songs!!

Yeah, shes better off dead. Too much pressure on her and all.

[mithikx]

But she seemed nice enough and promised me cookies...

The queen seems to know that they need to lay low until the moment is right, and she seems to know that her predecessors were all indoctrinated (soured songs and etc.) and she wishes to prevent it (as well as Citadel's reaction). If the queen itself can stay hidden the Rachni might be an allied force assuming that they don't share everything and can be overwritten like the Geth (indoctrinate one and you get the rest).

[Steppenwolf]

Why do people act like 1 single decision in the previous games would or even could spell doom for the galaxy? That's stupid. These decisions will likely cause one event to be different depending on your choice, and then the game moves on. It would be too resources intensive to alter the entire game based on one decision you made 2 games ago. Sparing or destroying the Rachni queen will not severely alter ME3 at all. That's a guarantee I can make based on common sense. Yes, they want your choices to matter. But they also have to design a coherent game and be able to make a deadline and a profit. Altering the game drastically for every decision you've made is not realistic.
And we all know stuff like saving the Rachni queen, keeping the data for a genophage cure, etc will only come into play at the very end of the game in a cutscene.
"Look, the Rachni are swarming the Reaper flagship and tearing it apart! And the Krogan are ripping the husks apart! Oh, what's that over there? The entire Geth Collective is bombarding the Reaper fleet! Good thing I saved the Rachni, kept the Genophage cure and didn't blow up the Geth heretics." Or, alternatively--
"We're getting ripped apart by the Reapers! If only I had made different choices! But wait! What's this? The tide is turning for some reason! We're winning even though I did nothing but burn bridges and hinder my chances!"

[neubourn]

Or, alternatively--
"We're getting ripped apart by the Reapers! If only I had made different choices! But wait! What's this? The tide is turning for some reason! We're winning even though I did nothing but burn bridges and hinder my chances!"

Thats right, Renegades dont need silly plot elements like "allies" or "help." My shepard will defeat the Reapers single-handedly with a squad of 2 people chosen out of a group of 6 to possibly 12 members with varying skills and weapons.

Modifié par neubourn, 16 juin 2011 - 10:01 .

[elearon1]

I find it kind of amusing when people say, "Paragon Shepard did this" and "Renegade Shepard did this" ... I played a Renegade in both games, but that doesn't mean my mind was taken over by the computer and removed all semblance of choice. My Renegade Shep spared the Rachni Queen because she felt it was the right thing to do, and she wasn't going to give her enemies the satisfaction of killing a race they had enslaved to do their dirty work ... why tie up their loose ends for them?

I also blew up the ship at the end of ME2, because I'd be damned if I was going to let anyone wield that kind of power - and I sure as hell wasn't going to trust Cerberus with it.

Playing Renegade doesn't mean being contradictory for the fun of it, or always doing the most bloodthirsty and senseless thing you can think of ... my character was a Renegade because she played by her own rules, not because she predictably played in opposition to someone else's.

[Gabey5]

this is pointless since everyone here has multiple shepards

[Captain Crash]

Whether it was the right or wrong choice, dumping a vat of acid onto a sentient creature and hearing that agonising scream was an atrocious act I personally found impossible to condone.


Just for that fact I kept the Rachni Queen alive in all but one of plays regardless of Shepards morality meter.  I would be upset if I was penalised over that choice.

Modifié par Captain Crash, 16 juin 2011 - 10:20 .

[ForumPortal]

obvious troll is obvious

[Kadzin]

ForumPortal wrote...

obvious troll is obvious

qft

[Augustei]

Captain Crash wrote...

Whether it was the right or wrong choice, dumping a vat of acid onto a sentient creature and hearing that agonising scream was an atrocious act I personally found impossible to condone.


Just for that fact I kept the Rachni Queen alive in all but one of plays regardless of Shepards morality meter.  I would be upset if I was penalised over that choice.

Yes the screaming of a giant bug is just to much, truely evil.. even if sparing her results in the screaming of many thousands of humans dying while already dealing with a reaper threat =P

[Augustei]

ForumPortal wrote...

obvious troll is obvious

BLASPHEMY!

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 16 juin 2011 - 10:53 .

[Chuvvy]

I hope it bites me in the ass.

[The Twilight God]

Bogsnot1 wrote...

Firstly, they would have to find the queen, wouldnt they? Its not like they automatically know the location of every single creature in existance.
Maybe I just spared the queen because I had so much fun stomping bugs, I decided to stock up for more fun later.

There is no concrete indication that reapers require phyiscal proximity to indoctrinate a rachni, if the queen's comments are to be taken as true. It sounds like Sovereign simply sent an indoctrinating tone through space-time which hushed one voice after another. It is unclear rather or not the reapers indoctrination speaks in the rachni native language, in which case distance may not be a deterent as the rachni would be naturally sensitive to indoctrination far beyond that of an non-insectiod. Or perhaps they reached a single queen and through her indoctinated other queens via proxy. Bioware has a lot of doors open to them.

Regardless of whether or not you killed or spared the rachni queen, the rachni were released via yet another botched Cerberus experiment as shown in the post-Noveria assignments. So there are rogue rachni out there. The difference, I presume, is that without the queen's ancestral memory and her brood there will be no rachni fleets. I believe the queen will be a boon.  At worst, some of her brood may become indoctrinated and be an early pain in the ass until an indoctrination counter measure is discovered.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

XxDeonxX wrote...

Wishful thinking =P

Besides *SPOILERS*
There are already Rachni Husks so you have already increased enemy numbers by sparing her =D

160 Bioware points on killing her will still result in Shepard having to fight Rachni husk.

[Icinix]

Lizardviking wrote...

XxDeonxX wrote...

Wishful thinking =P

Besides *SPOILERS*
There are already Rachni Husks so you have already increased enemy numbers by sparing her =D

160 Bioware points on killing her will still result in Shepard having to fight Rachni husk.

I'll throw another 160 into that pool that you are correct.

[Seboist]

Lizardviking wrote...

XxDeonxX wrote...

Wishful thinking =P

Besides *SPOILERS*
There are already Rachni Husks so you have already increased enemy numbers by sparing her =D

160 Bioware points on killing her will still result in Shepard having to fight Rachni husk.

We're also fighting Geth regardless of what we did or didn't do with Legion's loyalty,

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Seboist wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

XxDeonxX wrote...

Wishful thinking =P

Besides *SPOILERS*
There are already Rachni Husks so you have already increased enemy numbers by sparing her =D

160 Bioware points on killing her will still result in Shepard having to fight Rachni husk.

We're also fighting Geth regardless of what we did or didn't do with Legion's loyalty,

There is a twitter where they state that the Geth will listen to Shepard (depending on what choices you did). You can find it on Phaedon's ME3 spoiler blog.

[Captain Crash]

XxDeonxX wrote...

Captain Crash wrote...

Whether it was the right or wrong choice, dumping a vat of acid onto a sentient creature and hearing that agonising scream was an atrocious act I personally found impossible to condone.


Just for that fact I kept the Rachni Queen alive in all but one of plays regardless of Shepards morality meter.  I would be upset if I was penalised over that choice.

Yes the screaming of a giant bug is just to much, truely evil.. even if sparing her results in the screaming of many thousands of humans dying while already dealing with a reaper threat =P

Yep I know all the for and against arguements.  


At the end of the day you make the decision based on your own informed opinion.   Oddly I found that murdering a creature in an unethical and inhumane manner got to me more then any other aspect.    I guess killing a creature instantly isnt good for gameplay though


Actually come to think of it that works with any game:  http://www.youtube.c...FDA1R0#t=1m52s.      (*New Vegas Spoiler so dont click if you havent played*)