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ME3 - The start of the Galactic War ....but is it also the end?


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Ok, so I've read lots, watched lots, scanned the forums and perused various cereal boxes and haven't been able to discover any definitive answer.

Putting personal opinions aside, purely as a story observation - Yeah ok, that didn't work...I want it to end. Period.

Will ME3 see the end of the Reapers - and the end of the Galactic war? Or will it be a small victory to recapture the Earth and then end.

If anyone knows, seen, picked up on, etc what this actually is it would be great if you could point me to where it is, so it could end this question from burning into my brain.

Modifié par Icinix, 16 juin 2011 - 11:49 .


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There is no definitive answer to this question. Casey has only said that ME3 is "the beginning of the galactic war." Beyond that, what becomes of the reapers at the end of ME3 is purely speculation on anyone's part.

Modifié par Flashlegend, 16 juin 2011 - 10:49 .


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It better be.

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Flashlegend wrote...

There is no definitive answer to this question. Casey has only said that ME3 is "the beginning of the galactic war." Beyond that, what becomes of the reapers at the end of ME3 is purely speculation on anyone's part.


Yeah, I figured I hadn't missed anything.

I'd rather know before ME3 though - lest I build myself up for one outcome and end with another - thus tarnishing Mass Effects good name.

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Icinix wrote...

Flashlegend wrote...

There is no definitive answer to this question. Casey has only said that ME3 is "the beginning of the galactic war." Beyond that, what becomes of the reapers at the end of ME3 is purely speculation on anyone's part.


Yeah, I figured I hadn't missed anything.

I'd rather know before ME3 though - lest I build myself up for one outcome and end with another - thus tarnishing Mass Effects good name.


Might be better to wait before destroying the reapers until they've cleaned up other races that might go to war with others, namely vorcha and batarians. Once these races are gone I wouldn't know who else would continue a galactic war. It'd certainly be a really bad ending if the war continued. We already know ME3 is the end of Shepard's story and that there will be endings where Shepard survives. That said it would be highly unlikely there's a galactic war going on after ME3 (for example in a possible ME4) without Shepard (Humanity's greatest hero) getting involved in it.

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I have a feeling that it is just the start of the Galactic War mate. :( It just gives them a great opportunity to have more Mass Effect games.

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As long as it concludes the Shepard storyline, I'm happy.

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It's end of Shepard's storyline.

So it should be end of galactic war against Reapers.

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Mister Mida wrote...

It better be.


Seconded, they said Mass Effect was to be a trilogy, so it better be the end of the war or a lot of people will be upset :<.

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if it concludes Shepard's storyline but the war continues, Shepard must have died, which is not the ending i personally want.

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True Zarken wrote...

I have a feeling that it is just the start of the Galactic War mate. :( It just gives them a great opportunity to have more Mass Effect games.


Although I did try to put my personal feelings aside - this scares the heck out of me. Which is why, if I know now, I'm not going to be dissapointed when ME3 rolls around and I get to the end...and stare at the screen like a stunned mullet that the Reapers are still alive.

I don't think they'd do that too us though.....


..would they?

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Modifié par baby leelee, 16 juin 2011 - 11:16 .


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Icinix wrote...

True Zarken wrote...

I have a feeling that it is just the start of the Galactic War mate. :( It just gives them a great opportunity to have more Mass Effect games.


Although I did try to put my personal feelings aside - this scares the heck out of me. Which is why, if I know now, I'm not going to be dissapointed when ME3 rolls around and I get to the end...and stare at the screen like a stunned mullet that the Reapers are still alive.

I don't think they'd do that too us though.....


..would they?


Man if that happened I would feel like banging my head against the wall or monitor or something. That would be the worst possible ending to the trilogy imo :<.

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Icinix wrote...
Although I did try to put my personal feelings aside - this scares the heck out of me. Which is why, if I know now, I'm not going to be dissapointed when ME3 rolls around and I get to the end...and stare at the screen like a stunned mullet that the Reapers are still alive.

I don't think they'd do that too us though.....


..would they?


They might. It's hard to say at this point, but it does give them a good opportunity. But at this early stage we just can't be sure. What I think will end up happening is maybe a few Reapers will escape giving them more opportunity to open the Reaper plot line again if they wish. How this will sit with the fans if they go down this route I don't know.

Personally I'd be annoyed. I've spent three games trying to stop the bastards only to have a few escape.

Modifié par True Zarken, 16 juin 2011 - 11:19 .


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Chiramu wrote...
Man if that happened I would feel like banging my head against the wall or monitor or something. That would be the worst possible ending to the trilogy imo :<.


Yeah - Id be tempted to rage a bit. Want to start a club that head buts things in the event our fears come to pass? :P

True Zarken wrote...

They might. It's hard to say at this point, but it does give them a good opportunity. But at this early stage we just can't be sure. What I think will end up happening is maybe a few Reapers will escape giving them more opportunity to open the Reaper plot line again if they wish. How this will sit with the fans if they go down this route I don't know. 

Personally I'd be annoyed. I've spent three games trying to stop the bastards only to have a few escape.


I think that last line sums it up nicely, it would be silly to have Shep do so much over three games, only to leave the war raging and wide open for spin off games.

Yeah, it would be nuts, I don't think they'd do it - it wouldn't make sense. They would surely have enough lore and game story to set other spin offs in. Yeah, it will be the definite end of the reapers....I'm positive...

..but still going to start a head banging club just in case.

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Icinix wrote...

Ok, so I've read lots, watched lots, scanned the forums and perused various cereal boxes and haven't been able to discover any definitive answer.

Putting personal opinions aside, purely as a story observation -

Will ME3 see the end of the Reapers - and the end of the Galactic war? Or will it be a small victory to recapture the Earth and then end.

If anyone knows, seen, picked up on, etc what this actually is it would be great if you could point me to where it is, so it could end this question from burning into my brain.


The focus of the game seems to be "The Battle to Save Earth". 

Now it could just be marketing nonsense, but when someone says the third game in a trilogy is the best place to enter a series he either A.) believes his customer base is of questionable intellect or B.) is implying that the series will continue beyond Shepard's trilogy. Any intergalactic conflict between species seems unrealistic in the aftermath of a galaxy wide reaper invasion so I believe the reapers will remain the primary antagonist. Or another possibility would be some previously unknown (and greater threat) to which the reapers were a solution to (i.e. the reapers have noble intentions). 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is a galaxy spanning war. The reapers aren't all conveniently hovering over the Earth. The only way to completely finish off the reapers in such a relatively short timeframe is with a pre-existing super weapon of unimaginable range and precision. In otherwords, a convenient galaxy wide anti-reaper device.  I see no way to write a compelling story under this "treasure hunt" premise. It would come off as cheap and unimaginative.
 

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Icinix wrote...
..but still going to start a head banging club just in case.


Can I join just to be on the safe side? I have a feeling I maybe head banging in the future.

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It's the end of Shepard's story anyway. Don't know if I'd buy a ME4 without Shepard.

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I want victory over the reapers but wouldn't be averse to the possibility of a solitary one escaping and therefore providing the possibility of further storytelling in future incarnations of the mass effect universe.

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The Twilight God wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Ok, so I've read lots, watched lots, scanned the forums and perused various cereal boxes and haven't been able to discover any definitive answer.

Putting personal opinions aside, purely as a story observation -

Will ME3 see the end of the Reapers - and the end of the Galactic war? Or will it be a small victory to recapture the Earth and then end.

If anyone knows, seen, picked up on, etc what this actually is it would be great if you could point me to where it is, so it could end this question from burning into my brain.


The focus of the game seems to be "The Battle to Save Earth". 

Now it could just be marketing nonsense, but when someone says the third game in a trilogy is the best place to enter a series he either A.) believes his customer base is of questionable intellect or B.) is implying that the series will continue beyond Shepard's trilogy. Any intergalactic conflict between species seems unrealistic in the aftermath of a galaxy wide reaper invasion so I believe the reapers will remain the primary antagonist. Or another possibility would be some previously unknown (and greater threat) to which the reapers were a solution to (i.e. the reapers have noble intentions). 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is a galaxy spanning war. The reapers aren't all conveniently hovering over the Earth. The only way to completely finish off the reapers in such a relatively short timeframe is with a pre-existing super weapon of unimaginable range and precision. In otherwords, a convenient galaxy wide anti-reaper device.  I see no way to write a compelling story under this "treasure hunt" premise. It would come off as cheap and unimaginative.
 


Hmm - Terrible Plot Device involving much used super weapon or race that wipes out the enemy entirely almost instantly..
-OR-
The reapers are still alive at the end of ME3 and the war is still raging.

You know, neither of those two options are particularly appealing....

But yeah, you're logic about it being the best place to hit the series and such seems to indicate its not the end of the Reaper war...bugger.

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True Zarken wrote...

Icinix wrote...
..but still going to start a head banging club just in case.


Can I join just to be on the safe side? I have a feeling I maybe head banging in the future.


We don't discriminate against anyone! All are welcome!

Unless you don't have a head, in which case, no sorry. All seats are taken. :(

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wright1978 wrote...

I want victory over the reapers but wouldn't be averse to the possibility of a solitary one escaping and therefore providing the possibility of further storytelling in future incarnations of the mass effect universe.



See THAT, I think might be the best compromise and keep everyone happy. A small handful retreat into Darkspace, or even a few fighting hold outs around the Galaxy - But the end of the Galactic war itself against the Reapers I think is really important.

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It's the end of Shepard's story.

Then he will spend his days as a Faction Leader boss on the Citadel in the upcoming MMO what will feature a Galactic Stalemate between the forces of Survivors and the Indoctrinated!

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I dunno OP.

The trailer has the words "The battle for earth has begun" and then it has "decide how it will end"

It sounds like the whole thing gets concluded to me.

Trailer, fast foward to 0:37

Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I have a feeling the end of ME3 is the end of the Reapers, one way or another.

Modifié par jamesp81, 16 juin 2011 - 12:46 .


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For me - I'd like him just to liberate Earth, with implications that the war continues elsewhere.

I love it when stories talk about things like Blights that lasted for X amount of years... engulfing the world in terrible darkness. But yeah - I cleaned one up in a few months.

And the notion that one man is so important that he and his ragtag band stops a presumably intergalactic billions year old species of unfathomable power and numbers... in one game (again, a few months in game time) - is ludicrous.

If Shepard wipes out the Reapers in one game - then they were never the threat they made themselves out to be (and that's completely possible - they talked a lot of crap, we cannot verify any of it - could have been propaganda)

I think there are tons of stories in the ME universe that could be told during the war. Shepard is not "The War against the Reapers." - that would be like saying. "Well, Sovereigns dead... the Reapers should have been stopped."