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[LordNige]

It wasn't an asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs it was the Reapers!

[BloodyTalon]

Shep has some prothean blood in him somehow.

[STG]

"The Word is clear on this, friends. Humans are the hands of the Reapers, here to commit the galaxy to ruin!"

[jamesp81]

NYG1991 wrote...

1: Shep breaking down mentally as the game progresses.

2: humans were created by the protheans with the specific purpose of fighting the reapers.

#2 actually sounds pretty plausible.  We know the Protheans were experimenting on prehistoric humans if you did found the ruin on Eletania in ME1 and used the Consort's trinket on it.

[jamesp81]

TheSt3alth wrote...

I would not be suprised in the least if Shepherd was indoctrinated. He's spent way too much time with Reapers: Eden Prime, the Citadel under attack, the Collecter base, the station with the reaper tech in the ME2 DLC etc.

Although it would probably suck as a plot twist.

Shepard hasn't had enough exposure.  Indoctrination takes time.  Normally a week or two at a minimum.  Shepard has never been exposed to Reaper tech long enough for indoctrination to have any real effect.  Even the two days he was unconscious in Arrival wasn't enough.

Secondly, there have been some really large hints, from ME1, that Shepard is inherently resistant to indoctrination.

[Dannyboy9876]

jamesp81 wrote...

Shepard is inherently resistant to indoctrination.

Maincharacterosis?

[jamesp81]

Dannyboy9876 wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...

Shepard is inherently resistant to indoctrination.

Maincharacterosis?

Something like that.  But Liara does say some things in ME1 that very strongly hints at it.

[STG]

jamesp81 wrote...
Shepard hasn't had enough exposure.  Indoctrination takes time.  Normally a week or two at a minimum.  Shepard has never been exposed to Reaper tech long enough for indoctrination to have any real effect.  Even the two days he was unconscious in Arrival wasn't enough.

Secondly, there have been some really large hints, from ME1, that Shepard is inherently resistant to indoctrination.

Not sure where you're getting the "Shepard resistant to indoctrination" thing but I just want to point out that parts of Sovereign are integrated with Normandy and EDI, you can ask her about it. It is also quite possible that reaper tech was used during Lazarus project.

[exskeeny]

Every single cerberus troop we have seen has had a full face helm. I believe the "Luke, I am your father" plot twist is that the cerberus troops are Shep clones.

[this isnt my name]

Dark matter is destroying the galaxy or just organics, the reapers were an ancient race who predicted this, they made themselves into machines in order to survive. Then knew other life forms would take thier place, and they knew they wouldnt want to become reapers, so they left the technology to guide them on a path, making harvesting them for thier preservation easier.

Or organics win, but end up slowly killing off all life in the galaxy because of dark matter as a result of reapers destruction.

[this isnt my name]

jamesp81 wrote...

NYG1991 wrote...

1: Shep breaking down mentally as the game progresses.

2: humans were created by the protheans with the specific purpose of fighting the reapers.

#2 actually sounds pretty plausible.  We know the Protheans were experimenting on prehistoric humans if you did found the ruin on Eletania in ME1 and used the Consort's trinket on it.

Protheans had no idea the reapers existed.

[jamesp81]

STG wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...
Shepard hasn't had enough exposure.  Indoctrination takes time.  Normally a week or two at a minimum.  Shepard has never been exposed to Reaper tech long enough for indoctrination to have any real effect.  Even the two days he was unconscious in Arrival wasn't enough.

Secondly, there have been some really large hints, from ME1, that Shepard is inherently resistant to indoctrination.

Not sure where you're getting the "Shepard resistant to indoctrination" thing but I just want to point out that parts of Sovereign are integrated with Normandy and EDI, you can ask her about it. It is also quite possible that reaper tech was used during Lazarus project.

Liara made more than one comment about Shepard being "unusually strong-willed" in ME1.  I'd have to replay ME1 to get the exact quote, but she makes a comment or two in that direction and, being an Asari who can mind meld, she'd know.

It's not definitive, but it's a pretty strong indicator.

But even if Shepard wasn't unusually resistant, two days has been his longest exposure, and that simply isn't long enough.

[The Interloper]

exskeeny wrote...

Every single cerberus troop we have seen has had a full face helm. I believe the "Luke, I am your father" plot twist is that the cerberus troops are Shep clones.

Crappy clones, then.

[Travie]

If Shepard was upstairs, THEN WHO WAS PHONE!?

[Exiled Eagle]

exskeeny wrote...

Every single cerberus troop we have seen has had a full face helm. I believe the "Luke, I am your father" plot twist is that the cerberus troops are Shep clones.

They'd be unstoppable.


EDIT: Fix'd

Modifié par Exiled Eagle, 17 juin 2011 - 05:54 .

[chelseaisthepan]

Exiled Eagle wrote...

exskeeny wrote...

Every single cerberus troop we have seen has had a full face helm. I believe the "Luke, I am your father" plot twist is that the cerberus troops are Shep clones.

They'd be unstoppable.

EDIT: Ok, someone fix my image. I have no idea what went wrong.

Modifié par chelseaisthepan, 17 juin 2011 - 05:52 .

[Uszi]

Arcian wrote...

exskeeny wrote...

Every single cerberus troop we have seen has had a full face helm. I believe the "Luke, I am your father" plot twist is that the cerberus troops are Shep clones.

That... would be a badass twist!  No wonder Tim doesn't need Shepard anymore, he has an army of them.


What about a 1+2 combo punch:

Combine:
1.  Shepard was revived with Reaper Tech and is currently a ticking time bomb in so far as the longer he goes, the greater the danger of indoctrination and turning against us.
2.  Tim has been cloning Shepards to make a Shepard army all along.


This explains why TIM didn't really mind sending Shepard to almost certain death the first time they find the disabled Collector ship, or sending billions of Credits on a suicide mission.  This also explains why TIM would suddenly start trying to kill the best hope for humanity.

Modifié par Uszi, 17 juin 2011 - 05:52 .

[ThemFlashlight-headedThings]

Harbinger was created fom the Dragon Age civilization, that is why he has magic

[b1n0ry]

Shepard is asexual and that he is his own father... and mother.

[ThemFlashlight-headedThings]

kRaYzi3 wrote...

Shepard is asexual and that he is his own father... and mother.

But...my Shepard met his Mother on the Citadel

[Heimdall]

jamesp81 wrote...

STG wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...
Shepard hasn't had enough exposure.  Indoctrination takes time.  Normally a week or two at a minimum.  Shepard has never been exposed to Reaper tech long enough for indoctrination to have any real effect.  Even the two days he was unconscious in Arrival wasn't enough.

Secondly, there have been some really large hints, from ME1, that Shepard is inherently resistant to indoctrination.

Not sure where you're getting the "Shepard resistant to indoctrination" thing but I just want to point out that parts of Sovereign are integrated with Normandy and EDI, you can ask her about it. It is also quite possible that reaper tech was used during Lazarus project.

Liara made more than one comment about Shepard being "unusually strong-willed" in ME1.  I'd have to replay ME1 to get the exact quote, but she makes a comment or two in that direction and, being an Asari who can mind meld, she'd know.

It's not definitive, but it's a pretty strong indicator.

But even if Shepard wasn't unusually resistant, two days has been his longest exposure, and that simply isn't long enough.

In Mass Effect: Retribution, Paul Grayson is able to, at least temporarily, resist Reaper domination (Until they drug him to reduce his resistance).  So I'd say anyone with a strong will can resist the Reapers for a time.

[Platform626]

Travie wrote...

If Shepard was upstairs, THEN WHO WAS PHONE!?

THIS

[Sister Helen]

IT WAS A COOKBOOK!!!

[Jibbed34]

Expanding on what some have hinted at before, perhaps:

Humanity is actually directly descended from/genetically modified by the Protheans (the Mars facility was used as a hub for genetic research/alterations), and were purposely created to defeat the Reapers in the next cycle (eg. THIS cycle).

The Protheans arguably held more knowledge of structures like the Citadel and species such as the Keepers, and this knowledge will have been imprinted upon the DNA of Humanity to enable the use of some kind of secret weapon against the Reapers (probably planted somewhere within the Citadel by the surviving Prothean scientists).

Either that or it has something to do with the Keepers themselves...

In regards to Cerberus, they're just indoctrinated fools.

Modifié par Jibbed34, 18 juin 2011 - 02:23 .