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[Lucifer_Cheney]

Why can't there be a "Matrix Reloaded" plot twist where Shepard enters a room to find a Prothean "architect" who explains in a pretentious, self-indulgent diatribe about how it created Reapers, describes this will be the sixth time the galaxy will have been harvested and tells Shep he/she is the eventuality of "an anomaly that it has been unable to eliminate from the harmony of mathematical precision, vis-a-vis, concordantly ergo".

From there it gives Shep the choice of saving Earth and allow the other species to die or try in vein to save the galaxy despite the simple obvious truth that everyone will die and there is nothing he/she can do to stop it.

Then Shep leaves and warns the Prothean that they had better not meat again, to which the Protean responds: We won't!

[shadowreflexion]

Wintermist wrote...

Perhaps the "twist" is that you love interest is pregnant..

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That could work on so many different levels. Intensity and a sense of wanting to really protect the LI. The LI arguing that if she couldn't fight by your side for the life of said child then what are we really fighting for? That would be epic and sweet but also have one hell of an emotional impact.

[Wintermist]

shadowreflexion wrote...

Wintermist wrote...

Perhaps the "twist" is that you love interest is pregnant..

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That could work on so many different levels. Intensity and a sense of wanting to really protect the LI. The LI arguing that if she couldn't fight by your side for the life of said child then what are we really fighting for? That would be epic and sweet but also have one hell of an emotional impact.

Yeah, exactly that  In fact I'm hoping it's that, along with a really well done LI dialogue.

[Praetor Knight]

Lucifer_Cheney wrote...

Why can't there be a "Matrix Reloaded" plot twist where Shepard enters a room to find a Prothean "architect" who explains in a pretentious, self-indulgent diatribe about how it created Reapers, describes this will be the sixth time the galaxy will have been harvested and tells Shep he/she is the eventuality of "an anomaly that it has been unable to eliminate from the harmony of mathematical precision, vis-a-vis, concordantly ergo".

From there it gives Shep the choice of saving Earth and allow the other species to die or try in vein to save the galaxy despite the simple obvious truth that everyone will die and there is nothing he/she can do to stop it.

Then Shep leaves and warns the Prothean that they had better not meat again, to which the Protean responds: We won't!

uhh...

[Praetor Knight]

Wintermist wrote...

shadowreflexion wrote...

Wintermist wrote...

Perhaps the "twist" is that you love interest is pregnant..

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That could work on so many different levels. Intensity and a sense of wanting to really protect the LI. The LI arguing that if she couldn't fight by your side for the life of said child then what are we really fighting for? That would be epic and sweet but also have one hell of an emotional impact.

Yeah, exactly that  In fact I'm hoping it's that, along with a really well done LI dialogue.

Hmm... as much as I like Mark Meer, I'd rather hear Ben Browder handle that sort of scene.

[ME-ParaShep]

For some reason, I'm thinking that The Illusive Man might be Miranda's father. Miranda spoke of her father to be an incredibly wealthy man who sought a dynasty. TIM is looking to build a strong human dynasty. TIM is also very wealthy with many contacts and resources. Miranda's father could also be using some powerful information brokers as well, just as how the Illusive Man has information brokers as well. TIM has powerful imformation brokers to his disposal and he keeps things secretive. Miranda's father appears to be secretive about his plans as well as how Miranda and Oriana don't know exactly why they were genetically created. Miranda's father is an ambitious man. TIM is also an ambitious man. Cerberus has been "generously funded" by Miranda's father who again, is wealthy. TIM is also very wealthy. He put 4 billion creds into Shepard's ressurection.

The way I see it.. TIM might be Miranda's father.. Miranda's also is/was his top operative. A father would expect his offspring to be the best in his business. TIM also apparently doesn't have any sexual interest in Miranda as well. Also Miranda (through hints) was told that she joined Cerberus when she was old enough to want to join, which was fairly young which would make TIM old enough to be a father in age to Miranda.

*Note that Bioware REFUSED to speak in particular of Miranda because if they did.. they would "spoil main parts of the storyline". I'm sure most of you guys who seen Casey Hudson's tweet reply about Miranda knows that.

[shadowreflexion]

ME-ParaShep wrote...

For some reason, I'm thinking that The Illusive Man might be Miranda's father. Miranda spoke of her father to be an incredibly wealthy man who sought a dynasty. TIM is looking to build a strong human dynasty. TIM is also very wealthy with many contacts and resources. Miranda's father could also be using some powerful information brokers as well, just as how the Illusive Man has information brokers as well. TIM has powerful imformation brokers to his disposal and he keeps things secretive. Miranda's father appears to be secretive about his plans as well as how Miranda and Oriana don't know exactly why they were genetically created. Miranda's father is an ambitious man. TIM is also an ambitious man. Cerberus has been "generously funded" by Miranda's father who again, is wealthy. TIM is also very wealthy. He put 4 billion creds into Shepard's ressurection.

The way I see it.. TIM might be Miranda's father.. Miranda's also is/was his top operative. A father would expect his offspring to be the best in his business. TIM also apparently doesn't have any sexual interest in Miranda as well. Also Miranda (through hints) was told that she joined Cerberus when she was old enough to want to join, which was fairly young which would make TIM old enough to be a father in age to Miranda.

*Note that Bioware REFUSED to speak in particular of Miranda because if they did.. they would "spoil main parts of the storyline". I'm sure most of you guys who seen Casey Hudson's tweet reply about Miranda knows that.

During Miranda's loyalty mission she stated that even her father wouldn't cross TIM. So I think she knows who her father is, we just don't.

[breakdown71289]

Oh c'mon, everybody knows the twist already.....after Shepard defeats the Reapers, we get pan-open shot of M. Night Shyamalan writing Mass Effect 3!

[Chris Shepard-Williams]

The Reapers Abducted the Dinosaurs... lol.
Maybe Shepard is indoctrinated by a Reaper that wants to help organic life, that Reaper was the Normandy and that's what the Collectors were after at the beginning of Mass Effect 2. Then they decided to go after Shepard once he was brought back to life and continued the Normandy's fight...

Or TIM has always worked for the Reapers and EDI is a Reaper that tried to kill Shepard and destroy the last of the Protheans (The Collectors) with the suicide mission...

[Devildealer]

The Reaper's reveal their species of origin, the last thing Shepard and his team hears is "EXTERMINATE!"

[atheelogos]

jamesp81 wrote...

I have a couple of ideas.  Feel free to submit your own.

Twist #1:  Cerberus isn't actually indoctrinated.  In fact, it's the other way around.  Through various research they did through things like Project Overlord and other projects, Cerberus has indoctrinated the Reapers and is using them to make a play to rule the entire galaxy.  Now, why would Cerberus have their pets attack Earth then?  Probably because TIM saw the potential of the Human-Reaper, and Earth is where there's enough people to smoothy into one.  Cerberus doesn't mind killing lots of humans if doing so enhances their power.  As a plot device, this could make for a very interesting storyline if handled properly.

Twist #2: Shepard is a robot with a VI or AI in his head, and the "real" Shepard died at the beginning of ME2.  This one has been discussed before.  Personally, I think this would suck.

Twist #3: Shepard has Reaper tech in him.  Again, this would suck, but has been discussed before.

Twist #4: The Council is indoctrinated.  Would not surprise me in the least, especially after "Ahh, yes, Reapers".

What do you guys think?  I'm curious to see everyone else's theories on this.

1. I like it but disagree. I can't see the Reapers being controlled by TIM

2. I agree it would suck, but it would make more sense that the damned Lazarus Project

3. This one would make sense to a certain degree.

4. lol Would explain a lot

[anmaiarna]

Wintermist wrote...

Perhaps the "twist" is that you love interest is pregnant...

Kaidan is pregnant?

[Turgen Starblazer]

Something involving The Illusive Man. Something involving him being indoctrinated or helping the facilitation of The Reapers coming to Earth or what-not.

[ZLurps]

"There was a hole."

[Kov]

anmaiarna wrote...

Wintermist wrote...

Perhaps the "twist" is that you love interest is pregnant...

Kaidan is pregnant?

Yes. And so is Garrus, in my playthrough.
If you cheated your LI, there will be two babies and you'll have to take responsability for both... And because of that, you won't be able to stop the reapers. Negative consequences for cheating, as they said  

[mokbass87]

Nobody on earth surives the reaper attack...........except of course Lemmy

[onelifecrisis]

 I dreamed I was playing ME3 last night. No really, I did. Yes, I'm that sad. So anyway, I was playing ME3 and there was a big reveal that put everything into context and somehow made everything from ME1 and ME2 and Arrival fit together and make sense.
And now I can't remember what it was! 

[Wintermist]

anmaiarna wrote...

Wintermist wrote...

Perhaps the "twist" is that you love interest is pregnant...

Kaidan is pregnant?

Oh, LOL, I never thought of that. I take it all back haha.

[RAF1940]

Wintermist wrote...

shadowreflexion wrote...

Wintermist wrote...

Perhaps the "twist" is that you love interest is pregnant..

.

That could work on so many different levels. Intensity and a sense of wanting to really protect the LI. The LI arguing that if she couldn't fight by your side for the life of said child then what are we really fighting for? That would be epic and sweet but also have one hell of an emotional impact.

Yeah, exactly that  In fact I'm hoping it's that, along with a really well done LI dialogue.

But what if you're FemShep? You gotta lug the little **** around? 

[Wintermist]

RAF1940 wrote...

Wintermist wrote...

shadowreflexion wrote...

Wintermist wrote...

Perhaps the "twist" is that you love interest is pregnant..

.

That could work on so many different levels. Intensity and a sense of wanting to really protect the LI. The LI arguing that if she couldn't fight by your side for the life of said child then what are we really fighting for? That would be epic and sweet but also have one hell of an emotional impact.

Yeah, exactly that  In fact I'm hoping it's that, along with a really well done LI dialogue.

But what if you're FemShep? You gotta lug the little **** around? 

Yeah haha, no really, I take the whole suggestion back, it was a stupid idea hehe.

[Bobad]

"I am your father plot twist"?.

Udina: "Your mother never told who your father was?, Commander, I am your father"

Shepard: "This is an Outra..., aw bollocks, you're right".

[anmaiarna]

Fauna wrote...

Yes. And so is Garrus, in my playthrough.
If you cheated your LI, there will be two babies and you'll have to take responsability for both... And because of that, you won't be able to stop the reapers. Negative consequences for cheating, as they said  

Negative consequences and a special episode on the Jerry Springer show: "Turian Rebel & Human Sentinel vs Strangely Absent Commander: Where's the mommy? Shocking Normandy scandals!"

Wintermist wrote...

Oh, LOL, I never thought of that. I take it all back haha.

Phew, I did not look forward to having the "I'm not sure I'm ready"-talk with Kaidan.  On a more serious note: The idea in itself isn't stupid but I have a very hard time seeing how such a plot twist would be implemented in a good way. Also: what would the plot twist for female Shepard be? Would SHE end up pregnant? If... if that were to happen, the shriek of utter horror I'd emit would probably break every window within a 14 mile radius.

[shadowreflexion]

RAF1940 wrote...

Wintermist wrote...

shadowreflexion wrote...

Wintermist wrote...

Perhaps the "twist" is that you love interest is pregnant..

.

That could work on so many different levels. Intensity and a sense of wanting to really protect the LI. The LI arguing that if she couldn't fight by your side for the life of said child then what are we really fighting for? That would be epic and sweet but also have one hell of an emotional impact.

Yeah, exactly that  In fact I'm hoping it's that, along with a really well done LI dialogue.

But what if you're FemShep? You gotta lug the little **** around? 

Except due to the cybernectic implants, a FemShep is infertile like Miranda so the whole pregnancy issue can only be achieved if you're a male Shep.

[Wintermist]

 Perhaps it's this:

The Reapers are manufactured by the Council and are made to come wipe us out before we do it to ourselves. The Reapers would do it more effeciently and painlessly where we ourselves would cause misery and destruction and upset the balance of races, with one race have the upper hand and growing too large. The Reapers would do it for us, and leave the same amount behind to grow and start over again. The balance would be perfect once again. That's why the Council works against you so much<_<

I dunno, I was just thinking about it some and it could make some sense lol.

Modifié par Wintermist, 20 juin 2011 - 12:07 .

[TheCrakFox]

Andromeda smashes into the Milky Way. Everyone dies.

Turns out it was closer than we thought, it's just a bit little. You know, for a galaxy. Yeah.