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[Crackseed]

For the poster commenting on the Leviathan of Dis being a Reaper - Dis is an organic starship so it's definitely not a Reaper But I would very much like to know the importance of said ship or if it's just going to be "cool story fluff" in the end.

I don't hate the Batarians - I find them to be an interesting if cruel/bastardish race, but there are definitely some redeeming characters we've encountered thus far and am NOT against a Batarian squaddie if it would suit the game. Unfortunately I don't think we're going to get one given the focus on a smaller, more tight knit squad and all the available options already + Vega.

[Fatemaster]

Ummm... my War Hero Shepard is Paragon and if I was Shepard, I would be Paragon, (with a little bit of Renegade, oh yeah) so I´m against laughing at the Batarians´ bad luck. After all, not all Batarians would hate humans to the point of dismissing anything we say.

[nhsk]

Fatemaster wrote...

Ummm... my War Hero Shepard is Paragon and if I was Shepard, I would be Paragon, (with a little bit of Renegade, oh yeah) so I´m against laughing at the Batarians´ bad luck. After all, not all Batarians would hate humans to the point of dismissing anything we say.

While true, conversation broadens ones perspective and further understanding I would never have a defensive pact with such a nation, except for the most extreme circumstances like the Reaper invasion. And assuming the Alliance comes out of that conflict stronger than the Batarians do I would, as Alliance leadership, stab them in the back while they bled. To stop the slave raids targetting other races, especially human, colonies.

Modifié par nhsk, 05 juillet 2011 - 06:50 .

[Sheppard-Commander]

marshalleck wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

After the relay went supernova, I'd say our batarian friends are just about well-done. Stick a fork in 'em.

Except Bahak is not the only system inhabited by batarians. There are plenty of other batarian worlds in the galaxy. Whether or not they've been overrun by the Reapers, I don't know yet.

We're gonna need some more asteroids. 

I  think leaving them for Reaper chow is the best course...maybe it will slow the invasion down for a few months.

[knightnblu]

I think that it is a good bet that the Batarians are overrun. It is also likely that they are a lost cause because of massive indoctrination and consumption by the Reapers. If you recall, Vigil said that the Reapers used indoctrinated servants to expose hideouts, corrupt command and control, and to infiltrate defenses.

I would not be surprised to learn that the shuttle that got off of Kenson's rock played a large part in the invasion of Earth. Therefore, we really need to learn a lot more about the process of indoctrination and that means finding Rana Thanoptis. I don't expect any different for Earth because the longer the Reapers are on the ground the easier is their task of destroying humanity's home.

[DarkDragon777]

Well I doubt all of Batarian space will be overrun. I'm sure Khar'shan will still be intact throughout some if not all of the game depending on your choices. The majority of the Reapers seem to be interested in Earth at the beginning. You also have to remember that the Batarians are extreme xenophobes and don't let anyone enter or leave the Khar'shan or the surrounding area.So I doubt they will let Shep in to negotiate. (although I really hope they will) It would be really interesting to see if the Batarians would cooperate.

[AresXX7]

marshalleck wrote...

After the relay went supernova, I'd say our batarian friends are just about well-done. Stick a fork in 'em.

Sgt Stryker wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Except Bahak is not the only system inhabited by batarians. There are plenty of other batarian worlds in the galaxy. Whether or not they've been overrun by the Reapers, I don't know yet.

We're gonna need some more asteroids. 

Agreed.

[Dexi]

If by the end of ME3 the Batarian Homeworld won't be a chunk of iced glass, before the final battle in which I destroy the Reapers, I'll take Harbinger by the tail and throw him into the capital city of the batarians.
That's how you get the job done.

[B.Shep]

They are probably being reaped by Harbinger and his friends

[TCGodzilla]

DarkDragon777 wrote...

Well I doubt all of Batarian space will be overrun. I'm sure Khar'shan will still be intact throughout some if not all of the game depending on your choices. The majority of the Reapers seem to be interested in Earth at the beginning. You also have to remember that the Batarians are extreme xenophobes and don't let anyone enter or leave the Khar'shan or the surrounding area.So I doubt they will let Shep in to negotiate. (although I really hope they will) It would be really interesting to see if the Batarians would cooperate.

The batarians aren't extreme xenophobes. It's just the Batarian Hegemony, the government, is pretty much insane (isolated itself from the rest of the galaxy, keeps batarian civilians in batarian space and allows only military, terrorist groups and criminal groups out of batarian space, promotes and gives money to pirates, slave rings, criminals to attack human colonies, and a whole lot of propaganda directed at their people) that doesn't mean the batarian military or civilians wouldn't refuse to aid you and the rest of the galaxy. The batarians would likely be willing to negotiate with Shep because they have probably lost many worlds and millions of batarians have died or turned into husk. Now, I'm guessing, they are either evacuating or fighting desperately to hold on their remaining worlds against the Reapers and likely needs a lot of help. Finally the batarians, having a lot of political sway in the Terminus Systems, could influence other races in the Terminus to aid you if you successfully convinced them I'm guessing.

[JaceTAce]

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Races

Look them up on the site and read how their culture is. Honestly, I feel satisfaction of killing Batarians, but I also feel some remorse for some. From the site, it says that their government is likely some type of totalitarian state (Kind of reminds me of the US's thoughts of Cuba but more hostile). I admit, the batarians we've seen mostly hate humanity, but you can't really blame them.

In the game, we're still new to the community and already starting to take things that were originally their's. Think of how older siblings might feel when younger ones end up taking their stuff, resentment and amnisty develops and grows. But I doubt all Batarians feel the same way. In society, the civilians and their opinions are not always considered to be an absolute acceptance of how people feel. Ina totalitarian state, the government leaders might be the only ones in charge and decide things for the rest.

They may not like humanity very much in general, but they don't seem to hold that much anger towards the other races. They might end up willing to help, especially given the circumstances of complete annihilation and extinction because they couldn't let go of old grudges. People are willing to do some surprising things given certain situations.

[marshalleck]

Humanity taking things that were theirs? No. Proximity to a habitable world does not simply make it yours, particularly when someone else is just as close and you haven't actually inhabited the world. The batarians have a stick in their rears over the fact that humanity has a superior military and superior expansion strategy for colonizing the traverse. They picked a fight and lost, and when the Council told them to stop whining over losing a fight they started in the first place, they did the most idiotic thing possible and cut themselves off from the rest of the galactic community.

Well, except for the slaving runs, piracy, and terrorism. If that's the preferred relations they have with the rest of the species in the galaxy, my Shepard will continue to put them down like the rabid beasts they are, especially if they're threatening other humans.

Modifié par marshalleck, 06 juillet 2011 - 12:33 .

[DrNavi]

as they will be pretty much an endangered species my shep will reach out to them if possible, try put aside there differences, jane shepard is all about alliances between races

[Nightdragon8]

marshalleck wrote...

Humanity taking things that were theirs? No. Proximity to a habitable world does not simply make it yours, particularly when someone else is just as close and you haven't actually inhabited the world. The batarians have a stick in their rears over the fact that humanity has a superior military and superior expansion strategy for colonizing the traverse. They picked a fight and lost, and when the Council told them to stop whining over losing a fight they started in the first place, they did the most idiotic thing possible and cut themselves off from the rest of the galactic community.

Well, except for the slaving runs, piracy, and terrorism. If that's the preferred relations they have with the rest of the species in the galaxy, my Shepard will continue to put them down like the rabid beasts they are, especially if they're threatening other humans.

I have to agree, about the only thing they do now is, update the language translators so they can continue to talk...And boy do they love to talk.

Sadly enough this is a good proxy with what has happened in the middle east. And China.

[rpgfan321]

Wait.. wouldn't Batarian homeworld be the first to be hit by the reapers since the next over is the sol system? Or am I just speculating?

Anyway I see Batarians as the alien species that will be really isolated and be open for an easy attack.

[DaringMoosejaw]

Pretty much every Batarian we've seen has acted like a gigantic bag of dicks, even if it's a miniscule portion of their actual race.

[Raiil]

Eh, my renegon and paragon Sheps would still save them. It might help that she's a Spacer/Sole Survivor and therefore doesn't have the hate that, say, a Colonist does, but in the end, saving the galaxy means saving the galaxy, including the jerks. It helps that both keep in mind that they only meet the batarians who are considerably different than the 'average' one, and she had the one good run in with the sick batarian who thanked her.

[marshalleck]

Nightdragon8 wrote...

Sadly enough this is a good proxy with what has happened in the middle east. And China.

I can tenuously see the analogy to middle eastern regimes, but China? That's substantially flawed to the point of absurdity.

Anyways, the Arishok knows what you do with dysfunctional societies. I'm disappointed my Hawke couldn't side with him to burn down Kirkwall, kill its petty, squabbling, ineffectual leaders, and impose order.

Modifié par marshalleck, 06 juillet 2011 - 02:14 .

[Beerfish]

My Batarian quad focal eyeglass business is going to take a hit.

[OmegaXI]

The tree of lulz must be watered with the blood of trolls, they are smashed and just a former shadow of themselves. As far as I am concerned the only good thing the Batarians have done is be canon fodder for Shep and then the Reapers.

[Annihilator27]

I want a Batarian squadmate.

[darthnick427]

They will look up to the skies and cry save us, and i will say no. XD Epic Watchmen quote that i just had to use.

I'm indeferant about them. I don't care either way but i'm more point toward nuking the batarian homeworld. XD

I personally want my united Galaxy after this Reaper war to start a campaign of conquering the Terminus. With the Krogan cured of the Genophage they will have all the war they could want and conquer in the name of the Council! Citadel space will expand ten fold!!

[Mako Zalos]

Hopefully we can gain their alliance, and I don't care if it's temporary or permanent, preferably perm., I want one as a squaddie.

[Nightdragon8]

marshalleck wrote...

Nightdragon8 wrote...

Sadly enough this is a good proxy with what has happened in the middle east. And China.

I can tenuously see the analogy to middle eastern regimes, but China? That's substantially flawed to the point of absurdity.

Anyways, the Arishok knows what you do with dysfunctional societies. I'm disappointed my Hawke couldn't side with him to burn down Kirkwall, kill its petty, squabbling, ineffectual leaders, and impose order.

Just to clarify,

The reason I mention China was mainly due to the fact that China has its own "rules" in that they claim 1 mile more than the rest of the world off there shores. They are pretty isolated also.. but have a huge army. So really it was the only real

[Fatemaster]

Anyway, Harby is giving them the middle finger of death.