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Ironfist Clanhold bug? - Doors won't open.


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 First of all, just want to say that I've been really disappointed with Nwn2. ( I actually waited a long time before I got it, as I heard there were a load of bugs and thought they'd be dealt with already, but so far it's not been smooth playing) The graphics are really nice on Nwn2 but I think that's one of the few things going for it ( I'd pick nwn1 anyday.)

Anyhow, I'm in the Ironfist clanhold and spoken to Khayar, but all the doors are locked and unopenable and I've found no way to go forwards and complete the quest. Am I doing something wrong or missed something? Or is it a bug and if it is, is there a Debug command to open the lock?

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Also Khelgar is listed twice as an option at Crossroads keep to put into my party. One option is lvl10 Fighter Khelgar and the other is lvl 15 monk Khelgar, both of which made no difference when put into party and taken back to the clanhold.

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First, you need one of the Khelgars in your party. Your situation is perplexing, but let's try to deal with one problem at a time. I would take the lvl15 version.

Second, you have to talk to more dwarves. Go up and right through open doorways - you don't have to open anything at this time - to the Throne Room. There you will see Keros examining a table-sized map of the Sword Coast (plotting his conquest of Neverwinter or something). Talk to him.

Third, you're going to be unhappy with that talk. You're going to be leaving empty-handed - except on your way out of the Throne Room you should meet Khulmar (the leader of the scouts you met in the mountains). He should automatically start a conversation and when he's through talking, follow him - he will open a door and lead you to another room. Talk to him again there, and you should be good to go.

Fourth, some of those locked doors will remain locked for good. There's simply nothing there. There IS one you can open - near the merchant - for looting purposes. Bring a good thief.

[edit]  Oh, and if you get lost, there's a walkthrough and map here.

Modifié par I_Raps, 17 juin 2011 - 12:08 .


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I_Raps wrote...

First, you need one of the Khelgars in your party. Your situation is perplexing, but let's try to deal with one problem at a time. I would take the lvl15 version.

Second, you have to talk to more dwarves. Go up and right through open doorways - you don't have to open anything at this time - to the Throne Room. There you will see Keros examining a table-sized map of the Sword Coast (plotting his conquest of Neverwinter or something). Talk to him.



I took the highest level Khelgar, but the problem is that no doors are open at all. I can only stand in the main hallway, talk to the merchant and then go to the chests behind the door near the merchant, but other than that, I'm stuck there. There's a door straight ahead from the main hallway (#3)  which is locked and one to the right which is locked too (#2a)...I guess that's the one you're talking about? I'm über stuck.:pinched:

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 I don't know if long term it'll fix the problems going on, but I used DebugMode and jumptopoint to get my characters over the door.
Like a ninja :ph34r:

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good job on the ninja-technique!!

now that mr. I_Raps has helped clarify the sit. i dove in and took a look .. the mainGate ought have opened simply by entering the Stronghold with Khelgar in party. ( might mean Khelgar-the-nonMonk, didn't look there ) but,

did look at the doortag and this should unlock it:

rs ga_lock("3030_maingate", 0)


(for some reason, the scripters used Actions (by the module object) to unlock and open the portcullis; idk but i wouldna have done tha, should be just straightforward functions *shrug)

ps. the other locked door leads, absolutely nowhere.

pps. The bugginess of your installation can probably be fixed with a careful and diligent re-install, if you choose to go there. Selene has some good advice down in TechSupport, esp. Posts 4 & 5

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Thanks so much for the reply and for looking up those things! :) I might reinstall, but I'm so close to the end that I might just stick it out. Most of my problems have been with Khelgar (although it's pretty handy to be able to choose between monk Khelgar or fighter Khelgar) or with not being able to transition out of places like the Sunken Flagon - good way to get you to stay and drink more I guess ;).

I downloaded it with Steam (as you really can't find the game in the shops here in Finland) so I don't know how that'd go, but my plan is to beast it through the OC then hop to online games.

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ko :)

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Narien- wrote...

Thanks so much for the reply and for looking up those things! :) I might reinstall, but I'm so close to the end that I might just stick it out. Most of my problems have been with Khelgar (although it's pretty handy to be able to choose between monk Khelgar or fighter Khelgar) or with not being able to transition out of places like the Sunken Flagon - good way to get you to stay and drink more I guess ;).


I see nothing but trouble ahead along this course.  It's near the end, alright, but Khelgar has a number of speeches he needs to make, and if neither of them are recognized as the "true" Khelgar you're going to fail many scripts.  You should be able to tell rather quickly - after you hack your way past the sealed doors and get the quest (IF you get the quest) Khelgar should give a speech right at the base of the mountain.

A better solution would seem to be fixing your roster.  You should get gffeditor (here).  Now choose one of the Khelgars to continue - the other one is going away.   In your savegame folder, you should have two files, one of them named khelgar.ros.  The other one (or both, in your buggy case) will be some variation of that.  Opening them with the editor will determine which is which (expand out classList;  fighter is 4, monk is 5).  Delete the file that's not going to continue.  Now in the remaining khelgar.ros, make sure:

FirstName is STRREF 126460
LastName is STRREF 126459
Conversation is gl_khelgar
CreatnScrptFird is 1
FactionID is 6
IsCommandable is 1
Plot is 0
RosterMember is 1
RosterTag is khelgar

Save that, then open Roster.ros.
The characters are listed in RosMembers.  They start out alphabetical, but your second Khelgar should have been added at the bottom.  I would delete bad khelgar (the one at the bottom) and make original Khelgar (should be #6) conform to the character you kept.  In RosMember 6*, make sure:

PlayerCreated is 0
RosAvailable is 0 (Khelgar is in your active group) or 1 (if he's not)
RosCharName is Khelgar Ironfist
Rosclass0 is 4 (if fighter) or 5 (if monk)
RosLevel0 is his level (the real level that conforms to his actual stats - this is not the place to get creative)
RosLoadedBefore is 1
RosName is khelgar
RosSelectable is 1

Upper or lower case matters, and should be just as shown here.
This should solve your dwarf problems once and for all.

Modifié par I_Raps, 17 juin 2011 - 07:43 .


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... And make sure the filename of the true Khelgar is khelgar.ros rather than whatever variation it currently is.

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Perfect! Thank you! I'll give it a bash.

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I can't find a 'save game' folder. I think it has something to do with Steam. Any idea where I'd find it/access it?

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I'm going to try this again (sorry if double-post;  the good thing about working around the occasional glitches in NWN2 is that it prepares you mentally for this forum)

Narien- wrote...

I can't find a 'save game' folder. I think it has something to do with Steam. Any idea where I'd find it/access it?


This seems like a relatively common problem, with different answers, unfortunately.

The non-Steam version saves in:

C:\\Users\\*user*\\Documents\\Neverwinter Nights 2\\Saves (this might appear as My Documents\\Neverwinter Nights 2\\Saves depending on your settings)

Yours might be there - or someone said his are in:

Games\\Steam\\steamapps\\common\\neverwinter nights 2


In any case, a search in My Computer for "neverwinter nights 2" should find it, assuming it's a real folder and not some stupid system variable.

If not, these folks might be able to help, although that's where I found the two choices above.
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