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[Kusy]

Looking at it from this perspective - the only reason the Reapers were not able to wipe out the entire galaxy was because Salarians uplifted the Krogan race. 
Acording to Vigil and the Prothean's theories Sovereigh was waking up from hibernation from time to time to evaluate the situation. So he did, OVER 2000 years before Mass Effect happened. Before humans joined the galactic community? Why do I think so?

I'm basing my theory on the Rachni Queen telling the truth in Mass Effect 2, she says that the Reapers have controlled Rachni during the Rachni Wars.

Sovereign woke up from his slumber to check out how the Organics are doing, he collected data and confirmed that Organic races have reached their "apex" so he issued the order to open the Citadel Relay... and the surprise! It works not. Dude got royally pissed and he had to come up with a diffrent plan. He decided to use the Rachni race as his pawns and reach the Citadel to manualy open it. HOWEVER! He couldn't collect information about the Krogans - they were not an interstellar species then, he didn't know about them (or just ignored them in his pride) and defenetly could not forsee that Salarians would uplift them technologicaly to stop the Rachni invasion.

Salarians with the brute force of Krogans saved the Galaxy from the Reapers not even knowing it and allowed Shepard to save it now. The funny thing is, acording to this theory it took Sovereign 2000+ years to come up with another plan, maybee he used too much energy on plotting the Rachni attacks, maybee he decided to freeze himself for anoter nap to wait untill another ocasion comes up? 

To make this thread related to Mass Effect 3 more directly - without Salarians and Krogans, Shepard wouldn't be able to be in Mass Effect 3. Lulz.

Modifié par Mr.Kusy, 16 juin 2011 - 09:38 .

[Icinix]

I honestly thought this thread was going to be about the Salarians releasing a virus that would keep Reaper population in check...


..but I like your logic.

[Dr. rotinaj]

But what if the Krogan kill everybody and conquer the galaxy after the reapers are gone? Then it would be the Salarians fault for everybody dying. Damn Salarians!

[Yeti13]

But If the Krogan had not started a war on all fronts the Turians would have never realized that it was better for them to ally with Salrians and Asari and would have taken the Citadel by force, and most likely conquered the Galaxy!

[Kusy]

Damn Turians!

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Salarians? Saving the Galaxy... nah, the only thing they do right is create new problems.

If you want a problem shot, ask a turian. If you want a problem talked to death, ask an asari. If you want a new problem, ask a salarian. If you want a problem fixed, ask a human!

[Shepard Lives]

We held the line.

[True Zarken]

I with Icinix here I seriously thought it was about the Salarians releasing a virus that would damage the reapers in some way.

[Paulinius]

As always, good work Mr. Kusy. I never bothered to connect the dots, but you're right. Without the Salarians, the Krogan wouldn't have been able to stop the indoctrinated Rachni. Then the Krogans wouldn't have rebelled, which caused the Council to make first contact with the Turians, and all these races will be key in (possibly) stopping the Reapers.

[Therefore_I_Am]

After millions of cycles with no interruptions, and no one to directly challenge them, the reapers have finally f*cked up and met their match.

*sniff* ... We. Will hold.. the line.

Modifié par Therefore_I_Am, 16 juin 2011 - 10:39 .

[Sarcastic Tasha]

Good job they ignored the Prime Directive then.

[Eurhetemec]

Therefore_I_Am wrote...

After millions of cycles with no interruptions, and no one to directly challenge them, the reapers have finally f*cked up and met their match.

*sniff* ... We. Will hold.. the line.

Even if they've been at it for a billion years, that would be 20 thousand cycles, not millions. Just FYI. So even if the Reapers were one of the first races in the universe, they've probably not done it more than hundreds of thousands of times, and I personally suspect they've been at it for less than a billion years.

They've also probably screwed up bigger than this before, just not for a really long. The real problems are going to come from whatever Shepard does in ME3.

[greatcrusader44]

It seems Sovereign screwed the reapers over. His first bad plan (rachni) brought krogan and turians into being uplifted (which probably led to other species uplifted) and his second plan (citadel invasion) not only revealed the existence of reapers to the galaxy (even if it's only talked about behind closed doors) but brought Shepard into the mix who unites all the species together to fight the reapers and inevitably defeat them. If sovereign thought over his plans a little more than the reapers would have only had the salaries and asari to deal with.

[Therefore_I_Am]

Eurhetemec wrote...

Therefore_I_Am wrote...

After millions of cycles with no interruptions, and no one to directly challenge them, the reapers have finally f*cked up and met their match.

*sniff* ... We. Will hold.. the line.

Even if they've been at it for a billion years, that would be 20 thousand cycles, not millions. Just FYI. So even if the Reapers were one of the first races in the universe, they've probably not done it more than hundreds of thousands of times, and I personally suspect they've been at it for less than a billion years.

They've also probably screwed up bigger than this before, just not for a really long. The real problems are going to come from whatever Shepard does in ME3.

millions of years I meant. hundreds of thousands of cycles is what I meant.
It's leaving me to speculate on what mind shattering revelation Shepard is going to bring out.

Modifié par Therefore_I_Am, 17 juin 2011 - 12:14 .

[ShamieGTX]

sounds to me like Reapers made a very organic mistakes....even worst...

[STG]

After 2000 years Sovereign's plan is: Rush the Citadel.

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

STG wrote...

After 2000 years Sovereign's plan is: Rush the Citadel.

Sovereign: LEEEERRRROOOOYYYY JEEEEEEENKINS!!!!!
Other Reapers: god dammit sovereign!!! 

[Spectre_907]

Actually, the salarians were the ones who opened the relay to rachni space in the first place. They doomed the galaxy first then created another problem to fix it.

Like Shepard says, "If you want a new problem, ask a salarian."

[_Somebody]

Spectre_907 wrote...

Actually, the salarians were the ones who opened the relay to rachni space in the first place. They doomed the galaxy first then created another problem to fix it.

Like Shepard says, "If you want a new problem, ask a salarian."

When does he say this?

[Spectre_907]

Somebody wrote...

Spectre_907 wrote...

Actually, the salarians were the ones who opened the relay to rachni space in the first place. They doomed the galaxy first then created another problem to fix it.

Like Shepard says, "If you want a new problem, ask a salarian."

When does he say this?

Citadel: False Positives, first renegade response. Available if you sacrificed the Council.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

What a bunch of cloacas.

Also, like the theory!

[MinotaurWarrior]

But, if Sovereign had succeeded, humanity would have been passed over for this cycle (the rachni wars were pre-human spaceflight) allowing humans to have a full 50,000 years to expand (vastly longer than the Asari had) giving us a huge leg up in the next cycle. Plus, because it would have only been about two thousand years since the last cycle, we might have been able to piece it all together better than the protheans or Asari could.

So, once again, the Salarians mess everything up!

[azerSheppard]

MinotaurWarrior wrote...

But, if Sovereign had succeeded, humanity would have been passed over for this cycle (the rachni wars were pre-human spaceflight) allowing humans to have a full 50,000 years to expand (vastly longer than the Asari had) giving us a huge leg up in the next cycle. Plus, because it would have only been about two thousand years since the last cycle, we might have been able to piece it all together better than the protheans or Asari could.

So, once again, the Salarians mess everything up!

"Damn Salarians!"
We need this line in the game xd