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 Soooooo....im not the only one who thinks Shepard is gonna die in ME3 right? I mean it's the last of his story & if they plan on making another mass effect if shepard is still alive he is most definetly going to be talked about or have some kind of superior all mighty ranking in the alliance or whatever. While if he dies in this impossible mission it would be just the thing to hit home in a bitter sweet sense.

Say he gives his life for the destruction of the reapers and the  safety of Earth. It would give the player a sense of success, closure, and bring out all of the emotion that you may have gathered for your character throughout the 3 games. 

What are anyones elses opinions on this matter or even how you think he may die if he does in ME3

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Yes he is going to die, providing you screw up so bad you can't do anything else than die. Haven't your heard? Last game of the trilogy. Anything can happen now that they don't have to think about a sequel.

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Its possible...We have to consider that right from the start Bioware said that they set out to do a Trilogy of Mass Effect, so it is feasible. Shepard lives, you leave the door open for more, surely? However i like to think, our choices through 1 and 2 will effect, if we do die or not. That is if dying is an option.

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Considering Shep could die in ME2 there almost certainly going to be an option she dies in ME3 too.  Im guessing it far more likely.  You actually had to work at getting Shepard killed in ME2!  


Theres always a happy end though.  Or as near too considering everthing thats happened.  Having Shep killed off permanently would alienate alot of Biowares fanbase guarenteed.  

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I want my BeardShep to die vanguard charging the invading reapers with naught but a shotgun, half a thermal clip, and towing a sun behind him.

Hell, that buggers so tough he'd probably even survive that.

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Q1s222 wrote...

Its possible...We have to consider that right from the start Bioware said that they set out to do a Trilogy of Mass Effect, so it is feasible. Shepard lives, you leave the door open for more, surely? However i like to think, our choices through 1 and 2 will effect, if we do die or not. That is if dying is an option.


I feel as if dying were in the game it would be either be unavoidable or canon ending, but if they let him live after this game then if anything he'll only appear as cameos or references by other new characters

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Plain and simple: It will be possible for Shepard to survive the endgame. The Devs have said on more than one occasion (I believe Jesse Houston said it on that live Q&A thing) That you will be able to continue playing after the main plot in order to clear up unfinished quests etc, like we could in ME2. Shepard dying will not be forced upon us, it will just be a possibility depending on our choices. Now compulsory squad/ally deaths, al la Virmire, on the other hand...

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enough with the BS

Bioware is not going to force a hero's death for several reasons

1: post main quest play (which was already confirmedin GI)
2: killing off the hero is a **** move...not everyone likes it and bioware specified dozens of times this is our story too, they are not gonna impose that kind of ending (people sometimes dislike replaying a game in which they KNOW their hero, the avatar they spent 3 games with is going to die no matter what)
3: Bioware may very well add it as an option like in ME2....but as a canon ending? no way

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EvilSavior wrote...

I feel as if dying were in the game it would be either be unavoidable or canon ending, but if they let him live after this game then if anything he'll only appear as cameos or references by other new characters


I see your reasoning. It would be very disapointing if we couldnt avoid his death by choice. And we also have to consider the playing of ME3 after the storyline...how would that work if shepard did die?

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Can't have Shepard dying if we plan on milking ME3 with DLC.

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STG wrote...

Can't have Shepard dying if we plan on milking ME3 with DLC.


I couldn't help myself, I literally LOL'd when I read this. Sadly, it's probably accurate.

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If they end up making another Mass Effect game, it would be nice if your major decisions carried over and you could import your Shepard as an NPC.

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Q1s222 wrote...

EvilSavior wrote...

I feel as if dying were in the game it would be either be unavoidable or canon ending, but if they let him live after this game then if anything he'll only appear as cameos or references by other new characters


I see your reasoning. It would be very disapointing if we couldnt avoid his death by choice. And we also have to consider the playing of ME3 after the storyline...how would that work if shepard did die?


hmm there are plenty of games that you die, but then you are put back in the game as if nothing happened at the end post game. Ruining the immersion in my opinion, but none the less happens frequently. For DLC it could take a Red Dead:redemption undead nightmare appraoch and do a what if thing, starting the game over if some new motive or even a fallout DLC where instead of dying which was given in the original game, you were allowed to continue, do a new mission to explain for the revival and afterwards do whatever you want.


EDIT: @Crimzontearz    ......relax it's speculation

Modifié par EvilSavior, 16 juin 2011 - 11:37 .


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BioWare have already confirmed we will be able to carry on playing after the story is finished. An ending where Shepard dies does seem pretty likely though.

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TheCrakFox wrote...

BioWare have already confirmed we will be able to carry on playing after the story is finished. An ending where Shepard dies does seem pretty likely though.


yes, i never denied that you could play after the game has ended, but like i said before it is still a possibility you are put back into the game regardless of if you died or not doin't you think??

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MajorStranger wrote...

Yes he is going to die, providing you screw up so bad you can't do anything else than die. Haven't your heard? Last game of the trilogy. Anything can happen now that they don't have to think about a sequel.


There will be a sequel, just not one that needs Shepard and company. We have only scratched the surface of this galaxy, me wants to see more lol.

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Q1s222 wrote...

Its possible...We have to consider that right from the start Bioware said that they set out to do a Trilogy of Mass Effect, so it is feasible. Shepard lives, you leave the door open for more, surely? However i like to think, our choices through 1 and 2 will effect, if we do die or not. That is if dying is an option.


Here me out on this.

The idea that if Sheperd lives leaving the door open ...

Not saying that that is bad, but he/she doesn't necessarily HAVE to die for the series - for his/her part in it to be over. Like Miranda who resigns in ME2 if you blew up the base. I doubt they would just off her if they said she wasn't going to return. Just because someone is departing for whatever reason, doesn't mean they have to go out in the worst way possble - to ensure absolute closure. I'd hate to think that Sheperd dies whether or not having perserved humanity just so we could say - his part in it is over. That like having a magic button to instantly wipe out the Reapers!

Also, with the choices deteimining such - I'm going to mostly be Renegade, but I shouldn't die because I was such through the series (just as I don't think a near full or full Paragon should live). I'm not trying to spark the never-ending "Paragade" debate, but no one no matter how you align yourself, you shouldn't be immune to succombing. Even if you know they won't because you did everything to prevent that from happening, there's still a chance. (ME2)

The SM in ME2. While Miranda and I survived, I did think that neither one of us would. A little too immersed? Absolutely, but the idea to do everything noble and not fail is unrealistic as is going the other way. Decisions could have the opposite consequences.

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EvilSavior wrote...

Q1s222 wrote...

EvilSavior wrote...

I feel as if dying were in the game it would be either be unavoidable or canon ending, but if they let him live after this game then if anything he'll only appear as cameos or references by other new characters


I see your reasoning. It would be very disapointing if we couldnt avoid his death by choice. And we also have to consider the playing of ME3 after the storyline...how would that work if shepard did die?


hmm there are plenty of games that you die, but then you are put back in the game as if nothing happened at the end post game. Ruining the immersion in my opinion, but none the less happens frequently. For DLC it could take a Red Dead:redemption undead nightmare appraoch and do a what if thing, starting the game over if some new motive or even a fallout DLC where instead of dying which was given in the original game, you were allowed to continue, do a new mission to explain for the revival and afterwards do whatever you want.


EDIT: @Crimzontearz    ......relax it's speculation


It is a shame when that happens. Bringing back the main character to life. Just do what Red Dead did at the end...hand it over to someone else to play as after the ending. So in this case...second in comand? Maybe Garrus? Lets face you can only bring Shepard back to life once ;).

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EvilSavior wrote...

TheCrakFox wrote...

BioWare have already confirmed we will be able to carry on playing after the story is finished. An ending where Shepard dies does seem pretty likely though.


yes, i never denied that you could play after the game has ended, but like i said before it is still a possibility you are put back into the game regardless of if you died or not doin't you think??

I suppose, although i wouldn't want to carry on playing if I'm meant to be dead.

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Repearized Miranda wrote...

Q1s222 wrote...

Its possible...We have to consider that right from the start Bioware said that they set out to do a Trilogy of Mass Effect, so it is feasible. Shepard lives, you leave the door open for more, surely? However i like to think, our choices through 1 and 2 will effect, if we do die or not. That is if dying is an option.


Here me out on this.

The idea that if Sheperd lives leaving the door open ...

Not saying that that is bad, but he/she doesn't necessarily HAVE to die for the series - for his/her part in it to be over. Like Miranda who resigns in ME2 if you blew up the base. I doubt they would just off her if they said she wasn't going to return. Just because someone is departing for whatever reason, doesn't mean they have to go out in the worst way possble - to ensure absolute closure. I'd hate to think that Sheperd dies whether or not having perserved humanity just so we could say - his part in it is over. That like having a magic button to instantly wipe out the Reapers!

Also, with the choices deteimining such - I'm going to mostly be Renegade, but I shouldn't die because I was such through the series (just as I don't think a near full or full Paragon should live). I'm not trying to spark the never-ending "Paragade" debate, but no one no matter how you align yourself, you shouldn't be immune to succombing. Even if you know they won't because you did everything to prevent that from happening, there's still a chance. (ME2)

The SM in ME2. While Miranda and I survived, I did think that neither one of us would. A little too immersed? Absolutely, but the idea to do everything noble and not fail is unrealistic as is going the other way. Decisions could have the opposite consequences.


I see your point and its very valid. My ideal ending would be shepard reatiring or possibly joining the council now that they should believe him ;)

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Q1s222 wrote...

Repearized Miranda wrote...

Q1s222 wrote...

Its possible...We have to consider that right from the start Bioware said that they set out to do a Trilogy of Mass Effect, so it is feasible. Shepard lives, you leave the door open for more, surely? However i like to think, our choices through 1 and 2 will effect, if we do die or not. That is if dying is an option.


Here me out on this.

The idea that if Sheperd lives leaving the door open ...

Not saying that that is bad, but he/she doesn't necessarily HAVE to die for the series - for his/her part in it to be over. Like Miranda who resigns in ME2 if you blew up the base. I doubt they would just off her if they said she wasn't going to return. Just because someone is departing for whatever reason, doesn't mean they have to go out in the worst way possble - to ensure absolute closure. I'd hate to think that Sheperd dies whether or not having perserved humanity just so we could say - his part in it is over. That like having a magic button to instantly wipe out the Reapers!

Also, with the choices deteimining such - I'm going to mostly be Renegade, but I shouldn't die because I was such through the series (just as I don't think a near full or full Paragon should live). I'm not trying to spark the never-ending "Paragade" debate, but no one no matter how you align yourself, you shouldn't be immune to succombing. Even if you know they won't because you did everything to prevent that from happening, there's still a chance. (ME2)

The SM in ME2. While Miranda and I survived, I did think that neither one of us would. A little too immersed? Absolutely, but the idea to do everything noble and not fail is unrealistic as is going the other way. Decisions could have the opposite consequences.


I see your point and its very valid. My ideal ending would be shepard reatiring or possibly joining the council now that they should believe him ;)


Well, that saying wouldn't exist, would it? However, if I were Sheperd, I wouldn't waste my time with them - although, it'd be highly amusing if they KMA (not to mention highly ironic since we'ce said that to each other basically) :happy:

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Shep survived getting his ship annihilated, getting spaced, losing pressure in his suit, re-entry into a planets atmosphere, and presumably, falling all the way to the planet's surface.

Good luck with that, Reapers.

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Post-gameplay has been confirmed, so Shepard has at least a chance of not dying.

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TheDarkRats wrote...

Post-gameplay has been confirmed, so Shepard has at least a chance of not dying.


And if he does die...how do you think we will do the post-gameplay? Not being awkaward just intrigued to what others think...if Shep does die (Not confirmed he does die by the way)

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Repearized Miranda wrote...

Q1s222 wrote...

Repearized Miranda wrote...

Q1s222 wrote...

Its possible...We have to consider that right from the start Bioware said that they set out to do a Trilogy of Mass Effect, so it is feasible. Shepard lives, you leave the door open for more, surely? However i like to think, our choices through 1 and 2 will effect, if we do die or not. That is if dying is an option.


Here me out on this.

The idea that if Sheperd lives leaving the door open ...

Not saying that that is bad, but he/she doesn't necessarily HAVE to die for the series - for his/her part in it to be over. Like Miranda who resigns in ME2 if you blew up the base. I doubt they would just off her if they said she wasn't going to return. Just because someone is departing for whatever reason, doesn't mean they have to go out in the worst way possble - to ensure absolute closure. I'd hate to think that Sheperd dies whether or not having perserved humanity just so we could say - his part in it is over. That like having a magic button to instantly wipe out the Reapers!

Also, with the choices deteimining such - I'm going to mostly be Renegade, but I shouldn't die because I was such through the series (just as I don't think a near full or full Paragon should live). I'm not trying to spark the never-ending "Paragade" debate, but no one no matter how you align yourself, you shouldn't be immune to succombing. Even if you know they won't because you did everything to prevent that from happening, there's still a chance. (ME2)

The SM in ME2. While Miranda and I survived, I did think that neither one of us would. A little too immersed? Absolutely, but the idea to do everything noble and not fail is unrealistic as is going the other way. Decisions could have the opposite consequences.


I see your point and its very valid. My ideal ending would be shepard reatiring or possibly joining the council now that they should believe him ;)


Well, that saying wouldn't exist, would it? However, if I were Sheperd, I wouldn't waste my time with them - although, it'd be highly amusing if they KMA (not to mention highly ironic since we'ce said that to each other basically) :happy:


I just want to see Shepard valued by the human race and council a bit more after everything he has done. Lets face it you save a galaxy...you should really become King of the Galaxy, right?