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ME3 is resolving Earth, not the entire existence of the Reapers. I'd imagine post-game DLC to involve a lot of exciting and cool stuff, just not as OMGEXPLOSION as the climax of ME3 itself :)

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I think Shephard can die, but I don't believe it will be forced (unless you screw up royally perhaps?), I think it will be like Dragon Age: Origins. Really, I feel DA:O is kind of the prototype for Mass Effect 3: gather allies for a climactic showdown against an nearly unstoppable force in a phyrric victory that claims more than a few familiar faces and poses a difficult choice to end the threat.

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EvilSavior wrote...

Q1s222 wrote...

Its possible...We have to consider that right from the start Bioware said that they set out to do a Trilogy of Mass Effect, so it is feasible. Shepard lives, you leave the door open for more, surely? However i like to think, our choices through 1 and 2 will effect, if we do die or not. That is if dying is an option.


I feel as if dying were in the game it would be either be unavoidable or canon ending, but if they let him live after this game then if anything he'll only appear as cameos or references by other new characters

Accoring to Casey Hudson, there is no canon ending to ME3.  Every Shepard is different.  Which is good actually.  That way I can play it several ways and get different outcomes.

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Q1s222 wrote...

Repearized Miranda wrote...

Q1s222 wrote...

Repearized Miranda wrote...

Q1s222 wrote...

Its possible...We have to consider that right from the start Bioware said that they set out to do a Trilogy of Mass Effect, so it is feasible. Shepard lives, you leave the door open for more, surely? However i like to think, our choices through 1 and 2 will effect, if we do die or not. That is if dying is an option.


Here me out on this.

The idea that if Sheperd lives leaving the door open ...

Not saying that that is bad, but he/she doesn't necessarily HAVE to die for the series - for his/her part in it to be over. Like Miranda who resigns in ME2 if you blew up the base. I doubt they would just off her if they said she wasn't going to return. Just because someone is departing for whatever reason, doesn't mean they have to go out in the worst way possble - to ensure absolute closure. I'd hate to think that Sheperd dies whether or not having perserved humanity just so we could say - his part in it is over. That like having a magic button to instantly wipe out the Reapers!

Also, with the choices deteimining such - I'm going to mostly be Renegade, but I shouldn't die because I was such through the series (just as I don't think a near full or full Paragon should live). I'm not trying to spark the never-ending "Paragade" debate, but no one no matter how you align yourself, you shouldn't be immune to succombing. Even if you know they won't because you did everything to prevent that from happening, there's still a chance. (ME2)

The SM in ME2. While Miranda and I survived, I did think that neither one of us would. A little too immersed? Absolutely, but the idea to do everything noble and not fail is unrealistic as is going the other way. Decisions could have the opposite consequences.


I see your point and its very valid. My ideal ending would be shepard reatiring or possibly joining the council now that they should believe him ;)


Well, that saying wouldn't exist, would it? However, if I were Sheperd, I wouldn't waste my time with them - although, it'd be highly amusing if they KMA (not to mention highly ironic since we'ce said that to each other basically) :happy:


I just want to see Shepard valued by the human race and council a bit more after everything he has done. Lets face it you save a galaxy...you should really become King of the Galaxy, right?


Though I should, I may not want to. As I said: I'll probably stay Renegade; therefore, it wouldn't surprise me if I said such or rejected their offer. Kinda like when TIM was jerking me around. I did these things for him and what I get for it? "BS on this line! Miranda, lose this channel!" (GLADLY, Sheperd!!)

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Can we die? Probably. Will it be an outcome we can't avoid? Unlikely. I believe our choices will influence if we live or die. Personally, I want Shepard to live so she can continue kicking ass across the galaxy with her buddies.

While we're on the topic, tangentially, I hope they don't kill off your LI either.

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Repearized Miranda wrote...

Q1s222 wrote...

Repearized Miranda wrote...

Q1s222 wrote...

Repearized Miranda wrote...

Q1s222 wrote...

Its possible...We have to consider that right from the start Bioware said that they set out to do a Trilogy of Mass Effect, so it is feasible. Shepard lives, you leave the door open for more, surely? However i like to think, our choices through 1 and 2 will effect, if we do die or not. That is if dying is an option.


Here me out on this.

The idea that if Sheperd lives leaving the door open ...

Not saying that that is bad, but he/she doesn't necessarily HAVE to die for the series - for his/her part in it to be over. Like Miranda who resigns in ME2 if you blew up the base. I doubt they would just off her if they said she wasn't going to return. Just because someone is departing for whatever reason, doesn't mean they have to go out in the worst way possble - to ensure absolute closure. I'd hate to think that Sheperd dies whether or not having perserved humanity just so we could say - his part in it is over. That like having a magic button to instantly wipe out the Reapers!

Also, with the choices deteimining such - I'm going to mostly be Renegade, but I shouldn't die because I was such through the series (just as I don't think a near full or full Paragon should live). I'm not trying to spark the never-ending "Paragade" debate, but no one no matter how you align yourself, you shouldn't be immune to succombing. Even if you know they won't because you did everything to prevent that from happening, there's still a chance. (ME2)

The SM in ME2. While Miranda and I survived, I did think that neither one of us would. A little too immersed? Absolutely, but the idea to do everything noble and not fail is unrealistic as is going the other way. Decisions could have the opposite consequences.


I see your point and its very valid. My ideal ending would be shepard reatiring or possibly joining the council now that they should believe him ;)


Well, that saying wouldn't exist, would it? However, if I were Sheperd, I wouldn't waste my time with them - although, it'd be highly amusing if they KMA (not to mention highly ironic since we'ce said that to each other basically) :happy:


I just want to see Shepard valued by the human race and council a bit more after everything he has done. Lets face it you save a galaxy...you should really become King of the Galaxy, right?


Though I should, I may not want to. As I said: I'll probably stay Renegade; therefore, it wouldn't surprise me if I said such or rejected their offer. Kinda like when TIM was jerking me around. I did these things for him and what I get for it? "BS on this line! Miranda, lose this channel!" (GLADLY, Sheperd!!)


Fair enough. Just on a side note...Played Haol Reach that shows you the impact a death can have on a game. Like they say at the end, everything else was lost, but, you left your courage, with this we can rebuild. Just thought this suited Shepard if he did die. :happy: (Sorry for going off topic)

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What is with you people and not understanding that will be multiple endings, some with Shepard alive, some with him dead?

We WILL be able to continue playing after we finish the game via New Game +, so we know that at least ONE ending has shepard surviving.

Stop making twenty threads like this every day

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Q1s222 wrote...

Repearized Miranda wrote...

Q1s222 wrote...

Repearized Miranda wrote...

Q1s222 wrote...

Repearized Miranda wrote...

Q1s222 wrote...

Its possible...We have to consider that right from the start Bioware said that they set out to do a Trilogy of Mass Effect, so it is feasible. Shepard lives, you leave the door open for more, surely? However i like to think, our choices through 1 and 2 will effect, if we do die or not. That is if dying is an option.


Here me out on this.

The idea that if Sheperd lives leaving the door open ...

Not saying that that is bad, but he/she doesn't necessarily HAVE to die for the series - for his/her part in it to be over. Like Miranda who resigns in ME2 if you blew up the base. I doubt they would just off her if they said she wasn't going to return. Just because someone is departing for whatever reason, doesn't mean they have to go out in the worst way possble - to ensure absolute closure. I'd hate to think that Sheperd dies whether or not having perserved humanity just so we could say - his part in it is over. That like having a magic button to instantly wipe out the Reapers!

Also, with the choices deteimining such - I'm going to mostly be Renegade, but I shouldn't die because I was such through the series (just as I don't think a near full or full Paragon should live). I'm not trying to spark the never-ending "Paragade" debate, but no one no matter how you align yourself, you shouldn't be immune to succombing. Even if you know they won't because you did everything to prevent that from happening, there's still a chance. (ME2)

The SM in ME2. While Miranda and I survived, I did think that neither one of us would. A little too immersed? Absolutely, but the idea to do everything noble and not fail is unrealistic as is going the other way. Decisions could have the opposite consequences.


I see your point and its very valid. My ideal ending would be shepard reatiring or possibly joining the council now that they should believe him ;)


Well, that saying wouldn't exist, would it? However, if I were Sheperd, I wouldn't waste my time with them - although, it'd be highly amusing if they KMA (not to mention highly ironic since we'ce said that to each other basically) :happy:


I just want to see Shepard valued by the human race and council a bit more after everything he has done. Lets face it you save a galaxy...you should really become King of the Galaxy, right?


Though I should, I may not want to. As I said: I'll probably stay Renegade; therefore, it wouldn't surprise me if I said such or rejected their offer. Kinda like when TIM was jerking me around. I did these things for him and what I get for it? "BS on this line! Miranda, lose this channel!" (GLADLY, Sheperd!!)


Fair enough. Just on a side note...Played Haol Reach that shows you the impact a death can have on a game. Like they say at the end, everything else was lost, but, you left your courage, with this we can rebuild. Just thought this suited Shepard if he did die. :happy: (Sorry for going off topic)


Halo sucks.

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I've kinda been thinking this too. Be a tidy way to wrap up a trilogy. As to the argument of DLC or being able to finish up missions, it could be in the vein of DA:O where you play as if it were before the end.
It wouldn't make much sense for DLC to occur after the game ends because it's supposed to wrap up nicely with a for sure conclusion of Shepard's story...that kinda sounds like death to me.
If Shepard doesn't have to die, I hope it doesn't come down to your LI or you like it did with Alistair in DA:O. That would really suck, especially since you had no choice in that situation unless you didn't bring him along.

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KainrycKarr wrote...

Q1s222 wrote...

Repearized Miranda wrote...

Q1s222 wrote...

Repearized Miranda wrote...

Q1s222 wrote...

Repearized Miranda wrote...

Q1s222 wrote...

Its possible...We have to consider that right from the start Bioware said that they set out to do a Trilogy of Mass Effect, so it is feasible. Shepard lives, you leave the door open for more, surely? However i like to think, our choices through 1 and 2 will effect, if we do die or not. That is if dying is an option.


Here me out on this.

The idea that if Sheperd lives leaving the door open ...

Not saying that that is bad, but he/she doesn't necessarily HAVE to die for the series - for his/her part in it to be over. Like Miranda who resigns in ME2 if you blew up the base. I doubt they would just off her if they said she wasn't going to return. Just because someone is departing for whatever reason, doesn't mean they have to go out in the worst way possble - to ensure absolute closure. I'd hate to think that Sheperd dies whether or not having perserved humanity just so we could say - his part in it is over. That like having a magic button to instantly wipe out the Reapers!

Also, with the choices deteimining such - I'm going to mostly be Renegade, but I shouldn't die because I was such through the series (just as I don't think a near full or full Paragon should live). I'm not trying to spark the never-ending "Paragade" debate, but no one no matter how you align yourself, you shouldn't be immune to succombing. Even if you know they won't because you did everything to prevent that from happening, there's still a chance. (ME2)

The SM in ME2. While Miranda and I survived, I did think that neither one of us would. A little too immersed? Absolutely, but the idea to do everything noble and not fail is unrealistic as is going the other way. Decisions could have the opposite consequences.


I see your point and its very valid. My ideal ending would be shepard reatiring or possibly joining the council now that they should believe him ;)


Well, that saying wouldn't exist, would it? However, if I were Sheperd, I wouldn't waste my time with them - although, it'd be highly amusing if they KMA (not to mention highly ironic since we'ce said that to each other basically) :happy:


I just want to see Shepard valued by the human race and council a bit more after everything he has done. Lets face it you save a galaxy...you should really become King of the Galaxy, right?


Though I should, I may not want to. As I said: I'll probably stay Renegade; therefore, it wouldn't surprise me if I said such or rejected their offer. Kinda like when TIM was jerking me around. I did these things for him and what I get for it? "BS on this line! Miranda, lose this channel!" (GLADLY, Sheperd!!)


Fair enough. Just on a side note...Played Haol Reach that shows you the impact a death can have on a game. Like they say at the end, everything else was lost, but, you left your courage, with this we can rebuild. Just thought this suited Shepard if he did die. :happy: (Sorry for going off topic)


Halo sucks.


Your view.

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Halo still sucks.

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KainrycKarr wrote...

Halo still sucks.


Granted Halo Vs Mass Effect, Mass Effect will always win.

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fenix8081 wrote...

I've kinda been thinking this too. Be a tidy way to wrap up a trilogy. As to the argument of DLC or being able to finish up missions, it could be in the vein of DA:O where you play as if it were before the end.
It wouldn't make much sense for DLC to occur after the game ends because it's supposed to wrap up nicely with a for sure conclusion of Shepard's story...that kinda sounds like death to me.
If Shepard doesn't have to die, I hope it doesn't come down to your LI or you like it did with Alistair in DA:O. That would really suck, especially since you had no choice in that situation unless you didn't bring him along.


Although that would be  a tragic ending if your LI died, it wouldn't be any less tragic for him/her if you died. Someone posed the question: Would you rather Miranda (for example) died while leading her  squad in battle or would it hit home more if she died fighting right by your side? While I'd obviously feel every kind of emotion there is either way - it'll get magnified to no end if I watched her die in front of me -  especially knowing we've been inseparable since ME2!

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I want my BeardShep to die vanguard charging the invading reapers with naught but a shotgun, half a thermal clip, and towing a sun behind him.

Hell, that buggers so tough he'd probably even survive that.


I'd want my Shep to die while activating a weapon that causes a massive star to go supernova, unleashing one of the most destructive forces in the universe upon the entire Reaper fleet. He'd go out with the biggest bang anyone has ever seen.

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My shep, nor his li will die. He's too cool, edgy, and alternative for your mainstream tragic endings.