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[Zanallen]

I'm fine with a fix race protagonist. However, I would at the very least, like to see a few different background/occupation origin choices. Seeker, Mage, Noble and Commoner at least.

[Morroian]

Zanallen wrote...

I'm fine with a fix race protagonist. However, I would at the very least, like to see a few different background/occupation origin choices. Seeker, Mage, Noble and Commoner at least.

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[Fast Jimmy]

I'm willing to bet that the devs really want to do a Qunari PC, or at least another Qunari companion (a horned one, not Sten).

But, as others have said, the amount of resources, money and time required to do multiple races makes it highly unlikely for EA/BW to invest in this line of action. If they did, then, as I've said in numerous other threads, expect DA3 to come out in 2017 and cost $100.

And, if it did everything people are talking about and was an excellent piece of work, I would have no problem paying this much or waiting this long. I mean, between preordering the Signature Edition and buying the Strategy Guide (which was very useful in the fact that it actually explained the Cross class Combos in some level of detail), I dropped $85. I would gladly pay $15 more in six years if it gave a DA3 with a fully customizable character, multiple branching story lines, 100% correct save game file imports, no glitches and gameplay mechanics that build off what they started to try and do in DA2 but also went back to strong RPG technical builds.

Bioware, if you are listening... your fans, who have been with you for decades and have bought and loved every game you have made over the years, will pay more for the top tier games you used to make. I spent $40 back in the day for a Baldur's Gate 1+2 combo pack and still play it to this day. I have played and beaten KofOR and DA:O more times than I can count on both hands. If I were charged $100 and was guaranteed a game of the caliber we are talking about, with the same level of re-playability, it would be a welcome pay off.

Maybe that is the problem. When your average waste of space game costs $50-60 dollars and we expect Bioware to greatly surpass it with the same sticker price, its no wonder they are trying to crank out games in a quick fashion.

I didn't intend this to become a full-fledged rant here, but is anyone else with me in saying we would pay a higher sticker price to get all the options and perks we want from a future DA game?

[dheer]

FieryDove wrote...
In a Dragon Age II interview with Eurogamer, lead designer Mike Laidlaw said the developer had "ideas" for a sequel and protagonist Hawke.

http://www.eurogamer...th-dragon-age-2

I really hope those are ideas for DA2 dlc or expansions. Forcing Hawke on us again in a new game would be a drag. New protagonist or bring back my Warden please.

[Destr1er]

It doesn't really cost that much more to implement more options in terms of characters, models, etc.
EA just wants us to believe that so they can release less content in the game, and add more paid DLC.

Hopefully Dragon Age goes back to it's roots as a spiritual successor to the Baldur's Gate series, and dumps the console-itis.

Also, the forced character only works as well as the writing. If they don't rush out the next game, and take their time refining the story, it could work.

[Mickespel]

Race selection are needed. All are Orleasian citizens and speak mostly in the same way with some racial extras thrown in. Send the speech through a filter to make the dwarves voice a tad bit deeper and pitch up the elven speech a bit and we have something. To once again skip race selection would be a mistake that we cannot afford to do again. Driving away the Origins fans completely are not a good idea.

[Zanallen]

Destr1er wrote...

It doesn't really cost that much more to implement more options in terms of characters, models, etc.
EA just wants us to believe that so they can release less content in the game, and add more paid DLC.

Hopefully Dragon Age goes back to it's roots as a spiritual successor to the Baldur's Gate series, and dumps the console-itis.

Also, the forced character only works as well as the writing. If they don't rush out the next game, and take their time refining the story, it could work.

So you know the cost for additional VAs, character models, content changes based on race and so on and so forth?

[Destr1er]

Sure it will cost more, but not enough to make a big impact on the budget.
They wipe their **** with more money in the advertising of the games than a minor addition of content would cost.
The real problem is the out of control greed at the executive and shareholder level.
The Baby Koticks and the like. They suck out all creativity, imagination and innovation. These guys are killing this industry just like they did the music and movie industries.

But that is another topic in itself.

[Zanallen]

Ooookay.

Additional race options means more character models, extra cinematics, more armor models, more content to make the different race options actually meaningful and probably extra voice actors unless the various protagonists all share the same voice. That sounds fairly expensive to me.

[Demx]

DrunkDeadman wrote...

Meh. Don't care. I like humans just fine. Fixed elf protagonist? No prob. Dwarf? Sure, whatevs.

If race selection is in, it's in. If not, big deal... I'd much rather have at least a few different origins, even if the race is fixed.

This would probably be the next best thing, if different races are impossible to do now.

[Bryy_Miller]

It depends on a lot of things, I'm betting. One of which, no doubt, is if they do origins again. Which, like the Framed Narrative, was, in my opinion, a one trick pony only.

But if DA3 takes place in Cassandra's hunting party, I don't see *why* you would be locked in to one race.

[dcinroc]

I'm greatly prefer race selection options with a new character.

Although I think the new elves are hideous.

[outlaw1109]

WTH...who keeps saying that race selection would mean more character models? Unless you're allowed to play as a race that isn't included in the game, then the character models are already there. If you haven't noticed in the past two games, the models for all humans, elves dwarves and yes, even Qunari, are the same (*Male/female, respectively). They might have to take some extra time and create a couple of extra default headmorphs, but other than that...

Also, it doesn't mean extra cinematics, because the *cinematics* you see in game are just heavily scripted cutscenes that use the PC/followers.

And yes, the same voice can be used for different races. It might stretch the lines of immersion, but it can be done.

So, where's all this cost?

The minute amount that it will cost extra will be more than made up for in SALES. Because, if they did it and (given the power of BioEA marketing) advertised that they were doing it, then it would blow most of the other upcoming RPG's out of the water.

"Heavy Risk, but the priiizzeee"

[dcinroc]

outlaw1109 wrote...
Also, it doesn't mean extra cinematics, because the *cinematics* you see in game are just heavily scripted cutscenes that use the PC/followers.

Wouldn't they have to redo cutscenes to adjust the camera for the height of each race? Not so much in wide shots, but for close ups.

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

Yes, it's funny how things balance out. More work usually equals more profit. Only in very rare situations do cheap shortcuts yield huge profits.

[Xayoz]

woundedheart wrote...
How awesome would it be to be a female Qunari??

Ah, yes, all the 15y old nerdlings would undoutably pop a boner while pursuing their lesbian romances. <_<
Kinda sad really.

Having to play as Hawke would most certainly be a dealbreaker for me.
This was the first RPG ever where I came to hate my own alter ego.

Here is fo hoping they drop the player character voices and give us back dwarves and elves.

Modifié par Xayoz, 17 juin 2011 - 12:34 .

[Xayoz]

woundedheart wrote...

What does lesbian romances have to do with Qunaris...? The 15 year old nerdlings are going to have their lesbian romances no matter what race they're given, lol.

It simply seems that half of the people who wish Qunari in the game aren't interested in the race itself rather than the 'awesome female Qunari'.

[AAHook2]

It's really the mark of a fantasy RPG to be able to play as different races. I don't see why every game has to be alike nowadays.
Mass Effect has a set protagonist. Origins made it a point to not have a set protagonist, that the player would determine the character, what he or she looks like, says and does, as well as how they say it and and do it. The Warden had as many unique stories as the players who played him/her. That's what made Origins so vibrant.
Does every game have to be Mass Effect now, because that's their bread and butter? Forget it then. Just work on Mass Effect if that's the way it's going to be.
If we cannot choose the race, class and background of the next main character at the very least...chances are I won't be buying Dragon Age 3.
Dragon Age 2 has made me fed up. I can't believe I spent that money for the Special Edition and got less of a game.
I finished two runs and I can't bring myself to pick it up again. I haven't touched the game in over a month.
This is the kind of direction we're going in?
And I can't believe the ridiculousness of people still actually wanting to play as Hawke. The most cookie-cutter fantasy characters ever cooked up. Innovation...The writers should be ashamed of what they've brought this title to.
And who are we kidding? You really think they're going to let us play as MORE optional races?
*sigh* I guess I'm at the end of my tether.
Carry on.

[Monica83]

If da3 have hawke as protagonist im done with this franchise

[MonkeyLungs]

People by an overwhelming majority play human warriors. That's all we need anymore because that's all you Newfans want.

Human warrior. Most popular race/class combo by miles and miles ... I hate all of you NewFans so much.