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[Michael676]

I vote yes, let us have our freedom back to be a dwarf or an elf! We need freedom, its what makes games epic to make us feel like this is me, This is my story, This is how I want to play, Bring back some of that old DA:O!

[Schneidend]

I'm good either way, although I'd like to play as Hawke again, too. Becoming great rather than having greatness handed to you (Jedi, Grey Warden, etc.) was a refreshing change of pace. Also, I love Sarcastic/Witty Hawke's responses.

[Liaren]

I actually don't think it will. Since the character will most likely be voiced, and it's difficult to get a voice to match all three races (I say three, as I doubt they'd give the option to play a qunari). I don't mind either way.

Modifié par Liaren, 02 septembre 2011 - 06:51 .

[Dragoonlordz]

Qunari Male = Brian Blessed (He tends to be up for anything entertaining so shouldn't cost much)
Qunari Female = Roseanne Barr (Imagine she wouldn't charge much since would be giggle)
Elf Male = Colin Farrell (probably most expensive though could intice with he never had a game character voiced by himself)
Elf Female = Eve Myles Already have her for Merrill I know bu maybe she can do both)
Dwarf Male = Sean Connery (He's quite old now probably trick him into it)
Dwarf Female = Susan Boyle (Might do it for a deep fried mars bar)

Human Male and Female = Don't care, sick and tired of being forced human in RPG's, actually I will list them I guess for sake of it even if wouldn't play them...

Male Human = Morgan Freeman (Use Josh Robert Thompson)
Female Human = Jennifer Hale (Already does work for you so might not cost much to do some work on DA3)

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 02 septembre 2011 - 12:50 .

[filetemo]

if we had selectable races, armors should have to have three sizes, making them suitable for companions.
And since for DA3 followers will still have iconic look, I suspect we're stuck with human only protagonist again

[Askanison666]

DrunkDeadman wrote...

Meh. Don't care. I like humans just fine. Fixed elf protagonist? No prob. Dwarf? Sure, whatevs.

If race selection is in, it's in. If not, big deal... I'd much rather have at least a few different origins, even if the race is fixed.

Different origins, even if the race is fixed, would be pretty cool. More than 3 would be sweet as it would add a bit of replay value without Bioware having to change a whole lot.

[ChaosAgentLoki]

Me, I want to play as an elf again (my favorite DA race), but I'm fine with whatever Bioware gives us as long as the story is suitable and enjoyable. That's just my view however.

To all those suggesting having a fixed race, but numerous origins. That could be very cool and a great step towards appeasing many fans.

[Meris]

Faerunner wrote...

so how can you do that if you stick to only human protagonists running through human cities fighting human conflicts?

Not to mention that human conflicts are bound to drag other races with them, especially elves.

I for one am for the return of racial selection even though I prefer humans. And the reason is that it would allow story elaboration on top the choice of being a human - hopefully further from 'HELLO YOU ARE AN ELF' 'HELLO YOU ARE HUMAN'.

[WardenWade]

Faerunner wrote...

I want race options back. The writers have hinted if not outright stated that the point of the Dragon Age franchise is to explore the world of Thedas (not just tell the story of one protagonist like the Warden or Hawke), so how can you do that if you stick to only human protagonists running through human cities fighting human conflicts?

There are so many races and cultures in Thedas that you can't fully see or appreciate unless you've seen it or immersed yourself in it as denizens of that group. It feels like such a waste to play only privileged humans and reduce other races and racial cultures to just backdrops to tromp through or video game fodder to kill and loot. (Not families, homes or communities to get attached to as players do for human areas, cultures and NPC's.)

I sincerely hope we will get race options back for DA3 as well.  On the "PAX Questions" thread Mr. Gaider mentioned it was something still under discussion as a possible aspect.  I truly hope so for these same reasons, Faerunner.  The races of Thedas are Thedas, and IMO telling its story means giving them all equal importance and playability within the same game...particularly since there is no indication as yet that our protagonist must be a certain individual, as with Hawke. 

As Mr. Gaider has mentioned, there's a lot that goes into an option like this.  In my opinion race choice is worth it, and I was heartened to see that he appeared to personally support such customization   Hopefully we'll soon hear more on this!

Modifié par WardenWade, 14 avril 2012 - 12:28 .

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

I wouldn't be suprised if it's only one race, it requires way too much work and money to voice three racial types and we already know Bioware is addicted to voiced protagonists, they need a twelve step program at some sunny gulf coast resort to give it up.

I'll be really, really suprised to ever see Origins or racial selection (they honestly go hand-in-hand) for the player character in another Dragon Age game.

I am not 100% opposed to playing as Hawke, though I found the character tremendously ponderous in DA 2...which was ironic since voicing the protagonist was supposed to increase the emotional involvement the player has in the "cinematic" cutscenes. Since Bioware is hooked on voicing their protagonist, I just hope it's utilized to it's potential if we're stuck playing as a set protagonist.

[TheShadowWolf911]

race selection will likely influence whether or not i'd even buy the third considering the.........quality..........of DA2.

come on, i wanna be a Kossith.

as for voice acting, do what SWTOR did, same voice regardless of species.

Edit: just add extra lines for the voice actors when the character's species is brought up.

Modifié par TheShadowWolf911, 16 avril 2012 - 08:20 .

[Sidney]

Don't care about race selection. Eliminating elves is like eliminating a hair color selection. It is cosmetic and has zero role playing effect. In DAO once you cleared the tutorial level the most it mattered was an occasional (very occasional) "Hey knifes ears" comment with response X before you dropped back into the wall of text. My first character was a city elf and I thought in the origins "Wow, there is so much to do with this sort of social status" and then it turns into diddly the rest of the game.

I'd love to see a game tailored to reflect the issues and concerns of an eleven (or dwarven) character but that game would also be mono-raced in character choice. I'd rather have a deep experience than a wide one and telling a specific story works better than a generic one.

[Dessalines]

Sidney wrote...

Don't care about race selection. Eliminating elves is like eliminating a hair color selection. It is cosmetic and has zero role playing effect. In DAO once you cleared the tutorial level the most it mattered was an occasional (very occasional) "Hey knifes ears" comment with response X before you dropped back into the wall of text. My first character was a city elf and I thought in the origins "Wow, there is so much to do with this sort of social status" and then it turns into diddly the rest of the game.

I'd love to see a game tailored to reflect the issues and concerns of an eleven (or dwarven) character but that game would also be mono-raced in character choice. I'd rather have a deep experience than a wide one and telling a specific story works better than a generic one.

I agree.  Good companions and npc can help you explore the world too. I thought the scene with the Keeper entering the alienage was a powerful one in Dragon Age 2.

[Sidney]

Faerunner wrote...

If it was just an aesthetic thing, I wouldn't care as much because really, who cares if you're short and stout, thin and pointy-eared, or tall and have horns? But it has a significant culture difference because the different appearances define how others see you, how you see yourself, how you see others and what your place in any given social hierarchy is. Exploring how that affects your character and your perception of the world brings so much more variety to role-playing than just being a human ever could. (I've explored what it's like to be a human noble and mage. I get it. I'm done.)

They seemed to understand this in DAO, but not DA2. Like you, I hope they consider it and implement it.
(... Otherwise I'll just write a DA3 fan fic from the perception of an elven protagonist and not even worry about the game. )

They didn't though. Other than the origin there was no exploration of what being elven or dwarven meant to your main character. The City Elf origin is great at this and then the ball is totoally dropped because everything they have has to be generic enough to cram a human, elf or dwarf into it.

[WardenWade]

Faerunner wrote...

WardenWade wrote...

I sincerely hope we will get race options back for DA3 as well.  On the "PAX Questions" thread Mr. Gaider mentioned it was something still under discussion as a possible aspect.  I truly hope so for these same reasons, Faerunner.  The races of Thedas are Thedas, and IMO telling its story means giving them all equal importance and playability within the same game...particularly since there is no indication as yet that our protagonist must be a certain individual, as with Hawke. 

As Mr. Gaider has mentioned, there's a lot that goes into an option like this.  In my opinion race choice is worth it, and I was heartened to see that he appeared to personally support such customization   Hopefully we'll soon hear more on this!

Oh, I hope so too! I saw his response when he replied to your post, and while I'll admit that I don't feel quite as optimistic as you do (since he seemed to imply that the central conflict is more human-centered and so it would be more difficult or less likely to implement different races), I also hope very strongly that it'll pan out. 

If it was just an aesthetic thing, I wouldn't care as much because really, who cares if you're short and stout, thin and pointy-eared, or tall and have horns? But it has a significant culture difference because the different appearances define how others see you, how you see yourself, how you see others and what your place in any given social hierarchy is. Exploring how that affects your character and your perception of the world brings so much more variety to role-playing than just being a human ever could. (I've explored what it's like to be a human noble and mage. I get it. I'm done.)

They seemed to understand this in DAO, but not DA2. Like you, I hope they consider it and implement it.
(... Otherwise I'll just write a DA3 fan fic from the perception of an elven protagonist and not even worry about the game. )

Yes, in his response on the "PAX questions" thread Mr. Gaider mentioned the "cons" to returning an option like this were big...but not, I hope, insurmountable   The fact that Bioware has not outright nixed the possibility of full racial options coming back and that they are still being discussed, as well as what looks to be David's personal fondness for such customization, makes me feel it's worth fighting for   It's worth letting the devs know many do support the idea, I think, especially at this fluid stage when design overhauls one way or another can be feasible.  Mr. Gaider recently blogged about companion customization...maybe he'll soon do so about this topic as well?

And I totally agree, Faerunner...to me it wasn't merely an aesthetic matter with the races either   I loved learning about their lore and wanted to see even more, and as a member of their caste, clan, etc., rather than what felt to me to be something of an outsider as in DA2. 

Fan fiction can be a lot of fun!  Maybe you'll consider writing some either way?  

Modifié par WardenWade, 16 avril 2012 - 08:06 .

[WardenWade]

Sidney wrote...

They didn't though. Other than the origin there was no exploration of what being elven or dwarven meant to your main character. The City Elf origin is great at this and then the ball is totoally dropped because everything they have has to be generic enough to cram a human, elf or dwarf into it.

I'm always interested in content like this, myself, and enjoyed what DA:O provided.  And I like the potential of the CE origin, as well...it's my personal favorite   Maybe this is a good reason to reintroduce races in DA3, to give us a chance to further explore what being a non-human means, and within the current  conflict(s)?

Modifié par WardenWade, 16 avril 2012 - 08:22 .

[Zexiv]

I'm surprised that other races aren't automatically included since the origin choice and storylines were going to have impacts on future games. I'd have thought choices made as a Dwarf and as an Elf would result in different storyline arcs that weren't resolved when playing a human DA2. Maybe it won't happen but I was thinking player agency meant making some of the choices made while playing DAO and DA2 have more of an impact when playing DA3.  As such I'd have thought playing as a non human was still on the table in part to help resolve what your past choices brought to DA3.  I could see an arguement that if you choose to back Harrowmont then the dwarves were issolationist and that why the race wasn't available on that particular play through.

Take it easy

Modifié par Zexiv, 16 avril 2012 - 08:06 .

[Jackel159357]

There probably won't be race selection in DA3 due to voice protagonist. IMO the voiced protagonist prevents this due to the huge amount of work that needs to be done to have race selection and a voiced protagonist. Race Selection is an example of how while Voice Protagonist is cool it creates so many limitations on what Bioware can do and allow player characters to do that IMO its not worth it. Sure it makes a better cinematic experience and better cinematic moments but I always felt Dragon Age was about immersing yourself in the world as a character that is completely your own design.

[MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES]

DRAGON AGE THREE SHOULD HAVE RACE SELECTION. ALL OF THE OPTIONS SHOULD BE "DWARF."

[hussey 92]

A voiced PC is not worth the loss of choosing race.

[Aloren]

Well, maybe they could just have 1 male and 1 female voice , regardless of the race. I don't mind that all my Sheps get the same voice whether they are paragon renegade white black gay or straight, and I wouldn't mind if my DA3 Character had the same voice whether he was a dwarf, an elf, or a human. They could just appply a filter to slightly deepen the dwarf voice and lighten the elf voice.

Now of course allowing different races would necessitate some additional dialogues, but still, the same voice for every race should make that feasible.