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[Minty-Fresh]

There is still 8 months left before the game ships and the E3 previews of ME3 look fantastic, so I wouldn't worry about there not being enough SP dedication. With SWTOR being an MMO its obvious Bioware has an interest in MP, but I do not expect it from ME3.

Ok, now on a personel level, I don't like Co-Op and RPGs. Even Borderlands, which is built for Co-Op I play single-player only, It ruins the story for me, RPGs should always be SP only IMO, however I fully trust in Bioware, almost on a religious level and I believe if there is Co-Op in any Bioware game, they will do thier best to make it amazing, if not revolutionary.

[Raiil]

DarknessxVega wrote...

Ok I get it, you want to complete the single player ME campaign. Why would MP bother you? Because you assume it takes away resources from the SPC. Why not assume that they have hired the necessary assets to complete this with out taking resources away from the SPC? The only ones that truly know are Bioware employees working on it.

Because all games have limited resources. If part of it is budgeted towards potential MP, then that is, in fact, resources taken away from SP.

To be truthful, I wouldn't have minded so much if MP had been part of the ME experience, but it's not. I'd be down with a ME MMO. But ME3 is the end of the trilogy, there are a lot of loose ends that need to be addressed, and people are going to be mad (and I'll be one of them) if our favourite characters, squaddies or otherwise, who have been part of the immersive experience get cut or crap cameos while money, time and effort are being poured into something that might go down as well as Assassin Creed: Brotherhood's MP... or we end up with the atrocity that was The Darkness's' MP. Or hell, even Bioshock 2's MP 'experience'.

[DarknessxVega]

Minty-Fresh wrote...
 I fully trust in Bioware, almost on a religious level and I believe if there is Co-Op in any Bioware game, they will do thier best to make it amazing, if not revolutionary.

Could not have said it better myself. 

[DarknessxVega]

Valentia X wrote...

DarknessxVega wrote...

Ok I get it, you want to complete the single player ME campaign. Why would MP bother you? Because you assume it takes away resources from the SPC. Why not assume that they have hired the necessary assets to complete this with out taking resources away from the SPC? The only ones that truly know are Bioware employees working on it.

Because all games have limited resources. If part of it is budgeted towards potential MP, then that is, in fact, resources taken away from SP.

To be truthful, I wouldn't have minded so much if MP had been part of the ME experience, but it's not. I'd be down with a ME MMO. But ME3 is the end of the trilogy, there are a lot of loose ends that need to be addressed, and people are going to be mad (and I'll be one of them) if our favourite characters, squaddies or otherwise, who have been part of the immersive experience get cut or crap cameos while money, time and effort are being poured into something that might go down as well as Assassin Creed: Brotherhood's MP... or we end up with the atrocity that was The Darkness's' MP. Or hell, even Bioshock 2's MP 'experience'.

Yes what you say is probable but also its pure assumption. We just dont' really know if Bioware is adding resources  and  money to add a MP to ME 3 or if they are like you say taking resources away. No one knows. Bioware with EA's help could be borrowing money from EA if they both feel the return on investment will pay off .. Business is about taking chances. I trust Bioware and speciall the ME team. If the do ad it I am sure it will be well implemented. 

I do hope it does not turn out like some of those games you mentioned. I understand the fear.. 

[onelifecrisis]

Hathur wrote...

Oh, and Casey Hudson posted this: http://twitter.com/#...407467602448385 today on his twitter.

Just let it die already, people.

That's a very vague statement by Casey. At best it means "we have not ruled out MP". At worst it means MP is already in the works.

Modifié par onelifecrisis, 17 juin 2011 - 03:34 .

[OH-UP-THIS!]

Bogsnot1 wrote...

Kinect and MP combnied in a single thread!
Now if we can only keep it that way, so I only have to ignore one thread at a time.

Throw in consoles and you've got my vote!!!!!!!!!!!

[DTKT]

Actually, Bioware is not working on the multi. That doesnt mean another studio inside EA isn't working on it.

I can totally see another studio picking up the job.

[Dazaster Dellus]

DarknessxVega wrote...

Ok I get it, you want to complete the single player ME campaign. Why would MP bother you? Because you assume it takes away resources from the SPC. Why not assume that they have hired the necessary assets to complete this with out taking resources away from the SPC? The only ones that truly know are Bioware employees working on it.

Oh but they are spending more money to do it. Well unless you own stock in EA or Bioware ( I do not think Bioware is publicly traded) then who are we to tell Bioware what to do with their money. Also, Bioware wants a piece of the MP pie and in business you usually have to spend more than what you have saved (its called investing or speculating) to increase revenues and hopefully net profits.

Like someone said, it could be rumor to get the name out there and attrack people that only play MP.

Additionally, if Bioware pushes this I am sure they are going to be very carefull about it. It would be their first venture into the MP on consoles at least (correct me if I am wrong) and I am 100% that Bioware takes their reputation very very seriously.

Some one also said that it would be better to just release a spin off and I am also cool with that and I believe that if Bioware can't find a way to make MP in ME 3 successful they will release a spin off.

Lastly.. if people do not want to play co op or MP it is not mandatory. don't play it. No need to get mad about it.

The remarks mirror what executive producer Casey Hudson told us in an interview during our Mass Effect 3 cover story. "As a single-player experience, and just as a world that people want to immerse themselves in and share, we've been trying to think of a way that makes sense for people to experience Mass Effect with their friends. We haven't yet come up with a way to do that, so we don't have anything to announce at this time. But, obviously, multiplayer is something we want to do more of in the future as a company."

Cordially...

Is this a serious post?! Firstly, no one is telling Bioware how to spend their money. They csn do whatever they want with it. Doesn't mean the end product will be as amzing as they think it will. And again, this isn't just about the multiplayer. The bottom line is this. You can say all you want about the team being careful and about them knowing what is best for their franchise. They said the same thing about DA2 and look how that turned out(Yes I know they were different teams). Plenty of other AAA developers daid the same things and they ended up tarnishing their series as well. It is not unfathomable to see any developer slip up. While I wouldn't mind Bioware slipping up on a new series, I would rather they not ruin an amazing series on it's final chapter because they tried to cram too much uneeded extras.

As far as the whole borrowing money thing goes......really?! I mean we can sit here and play the "what if"  and "who knows" game all day. The fact of the matter is EA isn't known for being extremely generous with development time and resources. This is not an opinion. This is a fact.  And even if the Earth flipped it's Axis and somehow EA did give them infinite funds. It doesn't mean that the MP or Kinect will turn out any better because of it. Yes, this is their first attempt. I'm not saying it will be awful. I'm also not going to be a blind fool and say it will automatically be the greatest thing since sliced bread. What I am saying is that this time and money would be better spent on other things like polishing, story, animations and countless other things that were missed in ME2.  So in the end if.......[b]IF[b] Mass Effect 3 does come out and does not reach the mark that everyone expects it to(especially with all the added hype from the dev team) they have nothing and no one to blame but themselves.

[DarknessxVega]

Dazaster Dellus wrote...

DarknessxVega wrote...

Ok I get it, you want to complete the single player ME campaign. Why would MP bother you? Because you assume it takes away resources from the SPC. Why not assume that they have hired the necessary assets to complete this with out taking resources away from the SPC? The only ones that truly know are Bioware employees working on it.

Oh but they are spending more money to do it. Well unless you own stock in EA or Bioware ( I do not think Bioware is publicly traded) then who are we to tell Bioware what to do with their money. Also, Bioware wants a piece of the MP pie and in business you usually have to spend more than what you have saved (its called investing or speculating) to increase revenues and hopefully net profits.

Like someone said, it could be rumor to get the name out there and attrack people that only play MP.

Additionally, if Bioware pushes this I am sure they are going to be very carefull about it. It would be their first venture into the MP on consoles at least (correct me if I am wrong) and I am 100% that Bioware takes their reputation very very seriously.

Some one also said that it would be better to just release a spin off and I am also cool with that and I believe that if Bioware can't find a way to make MP in ME 3 successful they will release a spin off.

Lastly.. if people do not want to play co op or MP it is not mandatory. don't play it. No need to get mad about it.

The remarks mirror what executive producer Casey Hudson told us in an interview during our Mass Effect 3 cover story. "As a single-player experience, and just as a world that people want to immerse themselves in and share, we've been trying to think of a way that makes sense for people to experience Mass Effect with their friends. We haven't yet come up with a way to do that, so we don't have anything to announce at this time. But, obviously, multiplayer is something we want to do more of in the future as a company."

Cordially...

Is this a serious post?! Firstly, no one is telling Bioware how to spend their money. They csn do whatever they want with it. Doesn't mean the end product will be as amzing as they think it will. And again, this isn't just about the multiplayer. The bottom line is this. You can say all you want about the team being careful and about them knowing what is best for their franchise. They said the same thing about DA2 and look how that turned out(Yes I know they were different teams). Plenty of other AAA developers daid the same things and they ended up tarnishing their series as well. It is not unfathomable to see any developer slip up. While I wouldn't mind Bioware slipping up on a new series, I would rather they not ruin an amazing series on it's final chapter because they tried to cram too much uneeded extras.

As far as the whole borrowing money thing goes......really?! I mean we can sit here and play the "what if"  and "who knows" game all day. The fact of the matter is EA isn't known for being extremely generous with development time and resources. This is not an opinion. This is a fact.  And even if the Earth flipped it's Axis and somehow EA did give them infinite funds. It doesn't mean that the MP or Kinect will turn out any better because of it. Yes, this is their first attempt. I'm not saying it will be awful. I'm also not going to be a blind fool and say it will automatically be the greatest thing since sliced bread. What I am saying is that this time and money would be better spent on other things like polishing, story, animations and countless other things that were missed in ME2.   So in the end if.......[b]IF[b] Mass Effect 3 does come out and does not reach the mark that everyone expects it to(especially with all the added hype from the dev team) they have nothing and no one to blame but themselves.

No ones is telling Bioware how to spend their money yet i hear that argument all the time. you said it your self and I quote:  

What I am saying is that this time and money would be better spent on other things like polishing, story, animations and countless other things that were missed in ME2.

 

See you just said the money would be better spent. Isn't that telling Bioware they are spending their money the wrong way?

Is this a serious post?! Firstly, no one is telling Bioware how to spend their money. 

   

You just could not help yourself and ended up proving my point. 

However, no one knows what they are doing. No one knows what assets they might be diverting or adding to do what ever is it that they are going to do with ME3.

the whole borrowing money thing was just an example, maybe they are taking money from a different franchise or department. They might have even gone to venture capitalist to get them to invest in it. I am simply saying the whole argument about resources being wasted is pure speculation.

No one knows. 

are you saying that im a blind fool coz i trust bioware? haha all am saying is if they do not find a proper way of implementing it they wont. whats so incredoulus about that? 

Modifié par DarknessxVega, 17 juin 2011 - 06:54 .

[DarknessxVega]

@ Dazaster Dellus.
Oh one more point.. you said that EA is not generous about development time and resources well they just gave Bioware another 8 months to do what ever is it they are doing with it. So much for your theory about EA not being generous.. hmmm maybe they added resources and assets to the project too? hmmmm hey but that too is pure speculation... maybe they gave them more time coz they have been taking away resources.. oh but wait that is also pure speculation...

anyway.. I think I am done with this

[Lunatic LK47]

DarknessxVega wrote...

Yes what you say is probable but also its pure assumption. We just dont' really know if Bioware is adding resources  and  money to add a MP to ME 3 or if they are like you say taking resources away. No one knows. Bioware with EA's help could be borrowing money from EA if they both feel the return on investment will pay off .. Business is about taking chances. I trust Bioware and speciall the ME team. If the do ad it I am sure it will be well implemented. 

I do hope it does not turn out like some of those games you mentioned. I understand the fear.. 

Let's see:

Resident Evil 5: Game is less than ten hours long mainly for integrating co-op with Playstation Network and X-Box Live... Let's not forget the crappy-ass partner A.I. being more of a hindrance than a help, making co-op MANDATORY.

Halo 3: All of the extended focus on 4 player-cop and X-Box Live in general made Halo 3 shorter (at least a seven hour campaign, max), and lo and behold, we got Flood Infantry being randomly invulnerable BECAUSE OF A ****ING GLITCH.

Tom Clancy game (Rainbow Six and Ghost Recon being the prime offenders): Oh, whoops, all that time spent on multiplayer could have been better spent on improving our squad A.I.

[AlanC9]

DarknessxVega wrote...
anyway.. I think I am done with this

Promise?

Modifié par AlanC9, 17 juin 2011 - 07:47 .

[AlanC9]

DarknessxVega wrote...
You just could not help yourself and ended up proving my point. 

However, no one knows what they are doing. No one knows what assets they might be diverting or adding to do what ever is it that they are going to do with ME3.

the whole borrowing money thing was just an example, maybe they are taking money from a different franchise or department. They might have even gone to venture capitalist to get them to invest in it. I am simply saying the whole argument about resources being wasted is pure speculation.

No one knows. 

You've missed the point completely. Whatever the ME budget is, I don't want one cent of it spent on MP. If they have enough money to do everything they can think of for ME, I'd prefer any extra money be spent on a completely different game rather than go to ME MP. I might play that other game; I'll never play MP.