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[Raiil]

I generally romance, but it irks me that non-romancers get less content. I feel like both romance and friendship offer unique viewpoints in life (there are things you'll never tell a friend, but will a lover, and things you could never tell a s.o. but you'd spill to your buddy) and this is something that should be reflected in game.

I'd like romance-less Shepards to have some unique scenes, maybe where someone commends you for your committment to the cause or wonders what it's like to live such a solitary life (with the appropriate 'my life is just awesome single, thanks' quip).

[NICKjnp]

A non-romance Shepard should have a gun with a name...like Zaeed has Jesse.

[ladyvader]

I have one Shepard that didn't do a LI in ME1, but I ended up with Tali in ME2. I could see myself doing a single Shepard in the future.

When ME2 come out. I only had three different Shepards. One with Liara, one with Ash, and the other with Kaidan. Since then, I have created two more from ME1, two from default ME2, two from Genesis. I can see myself doing one more Shepard starting from ME1 to import to ME2 to ME3 with no LI. Just to see what the difference is. But I will probably do that after playing ME3.

[KawaiiKatie]

Romancing no-one is a legitimate strategy and I don't have any trouble understanding why some people would choose not to follow through with any of the romantic options.

For me, however, it gives a lot more weight to Shepard's story if there is a very specific person for Shepard to care about and fight for. As Mordin said, "Hard to imagine galaxy. Too many people. Faceless. ... For this fight, want personal connection. Can't anthropomorphize galaxy, but can think of favourite nephew. Fighting for him."

Pursuing a love interest helps me establish a personal connection to Shepard and the story, and though I do have one Shepard who has been single through both ME1 and ME2, I fully intend to find him a partner in ME3.

Modifié par KawaiiKatie, 17 juin 2011 - 03:38 .

[CheeseEnchilada]

I would love for a romance-free Shepard to have some scenes with a friend, rather than just miss out on content completely. It's the night before the last mission--let Shepard talk to Garrus, or confide in Joker. Romances are nice, but they shouldn't be the only way to convey Shepard's feelings and humanity.

[RPGamer13]

The scene shown in the first game was kind of depressing if you didn't romance anyone.

I haven't noticed anything in the second game that they put in to replace an absent love scene.


I'd just like to see something other than Shepard crying in a corner like the first game.

[JeffZero]

I didn't romance anyone in my first run through ME1. Honestly, no one in ME1 really appeals to me. I had to make a Shepard very separate from my personality to explore that content, which is cool since it'd have inevitably ended up happening anyway, I guess, but still.

So when I got that pretty depressing scene it kind of stung, but it wasn't so bad.

[Good Chaos7]

RPGamer13 wrote...

I'd just like to see something other than Shepard crying in a corner like the first game.

  Where n' when does Shepard do that?

Modifié par Good Chaos7, 17 juin 2011 - 03:43 .

[RPGamer13]

That's just what I recall seeing. Whether that's what actually happened, it's been a while since I played and because I only saw it once, I don't remember it as well as I do other stuff.

[KawaiiKatie]

Good Chaos7 wrote...

RPGamer13 wrote...

I'd just like to see something other than Shepard crying in a corner like the first game.

  Where does Shepard do that?

Actually, I just finished a run of an M!Shepard who didn't romance anyone, and no, he doesn't sit in the corner and cry. He silently leans against the lockers and looks deep in thought, and then Joker comes over the comm with a message.

In ME2, if Shepard doesn't have a love-interest from ME1 or ME2, then in lieu of a love-scene, Miranda gives Shepard a pep-talk and salute, before everything promptly cuts to the Illusive Man.

[Good Chaos7]

KawaiiKatie wrote...

Good Chaos7 wrote...

RPGamer13 wrote...

I'd just like to see something other than Shepard crying in a corner like the first game.

  Where does Shepard do that?

Actually, I just finished a run of an M!Shepard who didn't romance anyone, and no, he doesn't sit in the corner and cry. He silently leans against the lockers and looks deep in thought, and then Joker comes over the comm with a message.

In ME2, if Shepard doesn't have a love-interest from ME1 or ME2, then in lieu of a love-scene, Miranda gives Shepard a pep-talk and salute, before everything promptly cuts to the Illusive Man.

If that's when the ship is grounded I believe Shep still does that Romanced or not.

[naledgeborn]

Lmao. Shepard doesn't cry in a corner. He just looks down and shakes his head at what Udina and the Council did to him. He looks angry not depressed.

I've never seen a "no romance" scene in ME2. It's either the picture or Miranda/Jack for me. So what does Shepard do if he's single in both games?

[Minty-Fresh]

NICKjnp wrote...

A non-romance Shepard should have a gun with a name...like Zaeed has Jesse.

Or at least a hand....I only fool.

With onl two new squadmates confirmed I'm guess that all the returning squadmates will be romanceable again, even if you did not romance them in the other games.

I find the dialogue that would come of this interesting.

[KawaiiKatie]

Good Chaos7 wrote...

If that's when the ship is grounded I believe Shep still does that Romanced or not.

If Shepard has a romance, yes, Shepard still has that moment leaning against the lockers, but his/her love-interest quickly comes along for a comforting chat and an almost-kiss, where they are interupted by Joker. If Shepard doesn't have a romance, the scene just jumps into Shepard being hailed by Joker.

naledgeborn wrote...

I've never seen a "no romance" scene in ME2. It's either the picture or Miranda/Jack for me. So what does Shepard do if he's single in both games?

Like I said above, if Shepard is single in both games, then right before the Normandy jumps through the Omega-4 Relay, Miranda gives Shepard an encouraging one-liner and salutes. The scene quickly cuts to the Illusive Man, and Shepard is all armoured up and ready to fight the Collectors. It's actually kind of jarring, going from "We'll be there in an hour" to "OKAY I'M READY TO GO," especially if you're used to seeing a love-scene in-between those lines, or even a quiet moment where Shepard looks at the portrait of his/her love-interest.

Modifié par KawaiiKatie, 17 juin 2011 - 04:09 .

[HogarthHughes 3]

The pep-talk with Miranda happens with a ME1 LI as well.

My pure renegade Shepard has gone through with no romance, it fits his character pretty well.  Little things like the talk with Miranda are great, though honestly I don't expect content specific to a Shepard without a LI.

Modifié par HogarthHughes 3, 17 juin 2011 - 04:15 .

[shadowreflexion]

yorkj86 wrote...

Some people like to roleplay their Shepards romancing LIs.  That's cool.  Some people like to roleplay their Shepard having no romantic interest.  That's cool, too.  Maybe Shepard thinks there's no time for relationships, when the Reapers are on the galaxy's doorstep.  Maybe Shepard has no romantic or sexual interest in any of the LIs.  That's also cool.

This thread is for people who choose not to romance anyone.  The romances are optional content, after all (character development in ME2 being exclusive to the romances notwithstanding).

This thread is not for bashing the LIs and their fanbases .  This thread is not for bashing people who choose to romance LIs.  Go do that elsewhere.

*Do you think that the "no-romance" scenes are substantive, or do you think they're hollow and boring?  Do you think that it would be cool to show Shepard doing mission-critical things during the "no-romance" scenes, such as cleaning weapons?  Do you think it would be cool if romance-less Shepard were given the opportunity to have an exclusive, platonic conversation with a squadmate of the player's choosing?  What you like to see something else, in ME3, for romance-less Shepard?

Discuss.

I don't know. Something happens to me when I play. If the game itself was a trivial attempt at cliche type dialogue then it would be very easy to not really talk the talk with the squad. I guess that whenever I place myself in my characters shoes, I'm really "in" my characters shoes. Every choice becomes mine and every nuance I notice.

*When the media attacked ME because of the romance, it changed. When I first heard Jack Wall's score coupled with the love scene, I was leveled and I'm a guy. It made me feel that I was going to certain death knowing that if I fell, I shared love. That's what the music did. It was personal for me and even my girlfriend said when she saw it, her heart skipped. Flash forward to ME 2 and yes, many of the romances felt hollow. Liara had a strong one, Jack a vulnerable one, Tali was longing. Many others fell short to me. And it wasn't because lack of clothes, it was because nothing was really given and received equally.

*In regards to platonic...That would not only be cool but human. Friendship can be more powerful than romance. The artist "Prince" once sang a verse saying "We don't have to make babies to make love." Meaning like we can love each other just as strong and value something with wanting. 

What could I want for a single Shep? This is going to sound weird. But I want something so dramatic and painful to happen to where he is going to lose somebody close in that scenario. Like say BW played up to those who didn't romance anyone. "What if in that scenario, before Shep goes into a major fight, a possible love interest comes to him/her and says that they know Shep is fighting for everyones survival and that this battle has them worried. I know we haven't had time Shep and it's no ones fault but I'm deeply in love with you. Your convictions have become part of my life and I've always wanted your life to be my life. Too become one. The first person I see in the morning and the last person I see at night. You own my heart." 
And sadly, the possible LI dies in battle professing what could have been true love without restrictions and unconditional. Shep could make it through but that pain of loss won't go away and if it's expressed on his/her face or even something as simple as having Shep cry would be awesome. But I'm digging deep. Sorry for going on but you present some great questions.

[mineralica]

Well, for my "no one" Shepards: Ingrid ME1 and ME2, Ashley ME1 and ME2, Max ME1 and ME2, Angel ME1. Not so many.

[Nashiktal]

A non-romance run is fine in ME1, as for the most part you are not cut out of any dialogue (that I can think of) that would shorten or cheapen the experience.

ME2 on the other hand... Some party members simply won't talk to you if you do no romance. (Jack especially) You might find you crew will be stuck in calibrations just a little faster if you have no romances.

Luckily it sounds like they are improving that in ME3.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

I want the Romancing No One signature and my photoshop skill is around zero! make us one please

[S.A.K]

I have a playthough with no romace in ME1 but romanced tali in ME2!

[Golden Owl]

I only have one Shep and he is single, both in ME1 and ME2....though to be honest that is not because of some ideal I have given him to hold, it is simply none of the LI possibilities have floated his boat, I am hoping that changes in ME3, I would very much like him to end the series in Love.

[Shepard Lives]

"I don't have time to romance your space babes. I have a galaxy to save. Excuse me".
Someone should totally make a userbar out of that... (of course, substitute "babes" with "studs" if you wish)

Anyway, my main Shepard isn't romancing anyone. The mission is too important, and he can't afford to put one member of the crew above the others (he loves them all like family). He is attracted to Jack though (and to Ash a little, but that sublimated into a platonic relationship).

[SilentK]

Hmmm... my sheps always end up with a LI. I do understand about feeling like you get a bit less conversation if you don't have a LI in the game. My Kaidan-faithful Shepard had her friends on Normandy calibrating, meditating and all sorts of useful things in ME2. Ok, she will get her guy back in ME3. But hmm... what would be a good thing for someone who didn't romance anyone. Well, yes, I think that they should get a extra friendship scene. Like when Aveline comes to comfort Hawke after Leandra if that Hawke is single.

Modifié par SilentK, 17 juin 2011 - 10:33 .

[Tilarta]

Speaking for myself, I always preferred the "platonic" relationship over the LI one.

In both the games that came out, I always chose to be friends instead of romantically involved.

For me, it's more interesting that way.

Besides, I am their commander, I'm supposed to stand apart from things that would complicate the mission, like messy romantic relationships that may backfire.