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[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

TexasToast712 wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

mrsph wrote...

I keep telling you people. There is a gay toggle.

It's called not doing the romance.

THIS!

I can't believe it's that hard to grasp for some people.

The problem isnt grasping that. Its the fact that in some peoples canon Shepard stories, their squadmates sexualities are already established. A toggle at the start of every new ME3 playthrough similar to MW2's toggle option to skip the airport massacre level would keep everyone happy.

Except that the squadmates are not our Shepards, therefore we have no control over their sexualities. The writers do instead.

Edit: And it seems someone already posted something lke this. Bloody distractions...

Modifié par DrunkDeadman, 18 juin 2011 - 04:44 .

[ObserverStatus]

I'm not saying the OP is a troll, but he joined yesterday, hasn't registered any games. I'm not saying there is any connection.

[shepskisaac]

TexasToast712 wrote...
The problem isnt grasping that. Its the fact that in some peoples canon Shepard stories, their squadmates sexualities are already established.

But they're not. It's established they like one gender, but nothing about liking (or not) the other one. The only actual example is Jack who says she won't be in FemShep's "gorls club". And her example ain't that good anyway considering her past and that "don't want to be in your gorls club Shep" could be interpreted quite differently. It would be all established if you could hit on whoever you wanted but they've turned you down. But there wasn't an option to even suggest a romance to Ash or Kaidan. In the same way how there was no option to hit on Tali or Garrus.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 18 juin 2011 - 04:45 .

[Mr.House]

TexasToast712 wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

mrsph wrote...

I keep telling you people. There is a gay toggle.

It's called not doing the romance.

THIS!

I can't believe it's that hard to grasp for some people.

The problem isnt grasping that. Its the fact that in some peoples canon Shepard stories, their squadmates sexualities are already established. A toggle at the start of every new ME3 playthrough similar to MW2's toggle option to skip the airport massacre level would keep everyone happy.

Show me where squadmates say they are straight. You can't because it never happen. You assume they are straight.If Kaidan wants to dream about handling your malesheps package, who cares?

[TexasToast712]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

mrsph wrote...

I keep telling you people. There is a gay toggle.

It's called not doing the romance.

THIS!

I can't believe it's that hard to grasp for some people.

The problem isnt grasping that. Its the fact that in some peoples canon Shepard stories, their squadmates sexualities are already established. A toggle at the start of every new ME3 playthrough similar to MW2's toggle option to skip the airport massacre level would keep everyone happy.

If by everyone you mean people who want a toggle that is meant to sweep a certain minority under the rug than you'd be right everyone would be happy.  This though isn't what everyone wants,  this is what a group of people want so as to keep teh gay from coming into the game.  

As a brief aside...

I have nothing against gays. I just dont as of yet have any bi-sexual squadmates (Minus Liara who technically doesnt have a gender to begin with) in my canon ME story. By all means, if bioware wants to bring homosexuality in ME3 then do so. But keep it restricted to new characters or give us a toggle option.

[GodWood]

Jademoon121 wrote...
We don't need a toggle because we can do this; reject.

• Person hits on you
  
• You don't find said person attractive.
  
• You turn them down
  
• Move on.

Seriously people, it's just like that in real life. 

And just like real life it changes the relationship between the two people.
When a long time friend admits that they love you and you turn them down things don't simply go back to normal.

This is what ruined Tali for me.
She was no longer my spunky little sister character, she was another creepy, stalker virgin alien who has been pining after my Shepard for two years.

I'd personally prefer Vega to be the m/m romance. EDIT: Just noticed jeweledleah said the same thing, except much better.

Modifié par GodWood, 18 juin 2011 - 04:50 .

[AngelicMachinery]

TexasToast712 wrote...

(Minus Liara who technically doesnt have a gender to begin with) in my canon ME story.

She as all other Asari are of a feminine gender (I yearn for the day of a masculine asari.)  She is of the feminine sex,  she possesses feminine reproductive organs as well as secondary sexual characteristics and falls into a feminine gender ergo...  if it quacks like a duck looks like a duck it's a duck.

As for not having a problem with it you are in fact suggesting a toggle that will push it under the run in your game.  The argument of continuinity really doesn't come into play here as much as you simply not wanting to see it.  Lets be truthful here,  you are for the most part assuming a character is hetero simply because in your mind that is the default outside of a few characters no ones preference is particularly strong...

No one has really been that heavily developed what with those whole five minutes of dialogue per game.

Modifié par AngelicMachinery, 18 juin 2011 - 04:52 .

[Abispa]

@ OP -- If Kaidan suddenly becomes Zevran, I'll be expressing my outrage right along with you. Hmm, what would Kaidan sound like with an Antivan accent...?

As for the Anders Abomination, he was desperate and in a very dark place psychologically and spent the entire game DEMANDING everyone see things his way and taking all criticism, real or imagined, personally. His awkward moment was awkward because it was meant to be if Hawke isn't interest. Even if the original Anders was "straight," it was clear that the Anders Abomination was desperate for any human connection.

[TexasToast712]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

(Minus Liara who technically doesnt have a gender to begin with) in my canon ME story.

She as all other Asari are of a feminine gender (I yearn for the day of a masculine asari.)  She is of the feminine sex,  she possesses feminine reproductive organs as well as secondary sexual characteristics and falls into a feminine gender ergo...  if it quacks like a duck looks like a duck it's a duck.

As for not having a problem with it you are in fact suggesting a toggle that will push it under the run in your game.  The argument of continuinity really doesn't come into play here as much as you simply not wanting to see it.  Lets be truthful here,  you are for the most part assuming a character is hetero simply because in your mind that is the default outside of a few characters no ones preference is particularly strong...

No one has really been that heavily developed what with those whole five minutes of dialogue per game.

Ok, I admit it, Iam tired of arguing, I am just extremely terrified of finding Garrus, Jacob, or Vega, in my quarters dressed in one of the outfits of that video of yours. There, happy? I still have no problems with homosexuality. I just find it.......odd.

[AngelicMachinery]

TexasToast712 wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

(Minus Liara who technically doesnt have a gender to begin with) in my canon ME story.

She as all other Asari are of a feminine gender (I yearn for the day of a masculine asari.)  She is of the feminine sex,  she possesses feminine reproductive organs as well as secondary sexual characteristics and falls into a feminine gender ergo...  if it quacks like a duck looks like a duck it's a duck.

As for not having a problem with it you are in fact suggesting a toggle that will push it under the run in your game.  The argument of continuinity really doesn't come into play here as much as you simply not wanting to see it.  Lets be truthful here,  you are for the most part assuming a character is hetero simply because in your mind that is the default outside of a few characters no ones preference is particularly strong...

No one has really been that heavily developed what with those whole five minutes of dialogue per game.

Ok, I admit it, Iam tired of arguing, I am just extremely terrified of finding Garrus, Jacob, or Vega, in my quarters dressed in one of the outfits of that video of yours. There, happy? I still have no problems with homosexuality. I just find it.......odd.

Oh come on you wouldn't find it a tad bit hilarious? 

[Made Nightwing]

Okay, S/S toggle strikes me as a bad idea now. Here's a better idea.

Second or third major conversation with Kaidan/Vega. Up to this point, there has been no mention of any S/S feelings by Shepard or Kaidan/Vega . The talk gets on to romance etc. You get a clear marked dialogue wheel.

FRIENDSHIP OPTION LEFT SIDE OF THE WHEEL: Blocks out any S/S dialogue in later conversations.

ROMANCE OPTION RIGHT SIDE OF THE WHEEL: Opens up the main part of the romance.

I'd like to see a major alternate conversation depending on which option you take. People who don't romance Kaidan shouldn't miss out on extra dialogue. A straight Shepard should get the opportunity to talk with Kaidan about the women in their lives, what they plan to do when the war is over, tell Kaidan that Shepard thinks he'll make a good father one day. Hell, maybe even encourage Kaidan to romance someone.

Any objections to this?

[Mr.House]

TexasToast712 wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

(Minus Liara who technically doesnt have a gender to begin with) in my canon ME story.

She as all other Asari are of a feminine gender (I yearn for the day of a masculine asari.)  She is of the feminine sex,  she possesses feminine reproductive organs as well as secondary sexual characteristics and falls into a feminine gender ergo...  if it quacks like a duck looks like a duck it's a duck.

As for not having a problem with it you are in fact suggesting a toggle that will push it under the run in your game.  The argument of continuinity really doesn't come into play here as much as you simply not wanting to see it.  Lets be truthful here,  you are for the most part assuming a character is hetero simply because in your mind that is the default outside of a few characters no ones preference is particularly strong...

No one has really been that heavily developed what with those whole five minutes of dialogue per game.

Ok, I admit it, Iam tired of arguing, I am just extremely terrified of finding Garrus, Jacob, or Vega, in my quarters dressed in one of the outfits of that video of yours. There, happy? I still have no problems with homosexuality. I just find it.......odd.

It's no more odd then being straight.

[Medhia Nox]

While I'm interesting in the S/S options...

Give this man his bro-mance Bioware!

Each person's experience should be as tailored to their own interests as possible.

[GodWood]

SwobyJ wrote...
Wow, there's a huge difference between saying you love someone, and a bit of nervous flirtish remarks.  Crush /= unrequited love.

Keeping in mind I'm a very unemotional person and suck at interpreting people's emotions...

Tali had a crush on Shepard in ME1, throughout the two years he was dead and in ME2.
That's a lot more then her simply being flirty.

Zevran was flirty.

Tali was infatuated.

[weikle21]

TexasToast712 wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

(Minus Liara who technically doesnt have a gender to begin with) in my canon ME story.

She as all other Asari are of a feminine gender (I yearn for the day of a masculine asari.)  She is of the feminine sex,  she possesses feminine reproductive organs as well as secondary sexual characteristics and falls into a feminine gender ergo...  if it quacks like a duck looks like a duck it's a duck.

As for not having a problem with it you are in fact suggesting a toggle that will push it under the run in your game.  The argument of continuinity really doesn't come into play here as much as you simply not wanting to see it.  Lets be truthful here,  you are for the most part assuming a character is hetero simply because in your mind that is the default outside of a few characters no ones preference is particularly strong...

No one has really been that heavily developed what with those whole five minutes of dialogue per game.

Ok, I admit it, Iam tired of arguing, I am just extremely terrified of finding Garrus, Jacob, or Vega, in my quarters dressed in one of the outfits of that video of yours. There, happy? I still have no problems with homosexuality. I just find it.......odd.

When the hell would that EVER happen?

[AngelicMachinery]

GodWood wrote...

Zevran was undeniably awesome.

fixed

[Made Nightwing]

Mr.House wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

(Minus Liara who technically doesnt have a gender to begin with) in my canon ME story.

She as all other Asari are of a feminine gender (I yearn for the day of a masculine asari.)  She is of the feminine sex,  she possesses feminine reproductive organs as well as secondary sexual characteristics and falls into a feminine gender ergo...  if it quacks like a duck looks like a duck it's a duck.

As for not having a problem with it you are in fact suggesting a toggle that will push it under the run in your game.  The argument of continuinity really doesn't come into play here as much as you simply not wanting to see it.  Lets be truthful here,  you are for the most part assuming a character is hetero simply because in your mind that is the default outside of a few characters no ones preference is particularly strong...

No one has really been that heavily developed what with those whole five minutes of dialogue per game.

Ok, I admit it, Iam tired of arguing, I am just extremely terrified of finding Garrus, Jacob, or Vega, in my quarters dressed in one of the outfits of that video of yours. There, happy? I still have no problems with homosexuality. I just find it.......odd.

It's no more odd then being straight.

Negative, being straight is something we're all built with the natural plumbing for. Nothing odd about it. Homosexuality on the other hand.........

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Zevran was undeniably ridiculously awesome.

fixed

Double fix'd.

[GodWood]

Mr.House wrote...

Ok, I admit it, Iam tired of arguing, I am just extremely terrified of finding Garrus, Jacob, or Vega, in my quarters dressed in one of the outfits of that video of yours. There, happy? I still have no problems with homosexuality. I just find it.......odd.

It's no more odd then being straight.

Not really.

Odd is simply 'different from usual'.
Usual is simply that which is 'typical' or 'common'.

Heterosexuality is more common/typical than homosexuality and therefore out of the two it is homosexuality that is 'odd'.

Modifié par GodWood, 18 juin 2011 - 05:07 .

[weikle21]

Made Nightwing wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

(Minus Liara who technically doesnt have a gender to begin with) in my canon ME story.

She as all other Asari are of a feminine gender (I yearn for the day of a masculine asari.)  She is of the feminine sex,  she possesses feminine reproductive organs as well as secondary sexual characteristics and falls into a feminine gender ergo...  if it quacks like a duck looks like a duck it's a duck.

As for not having a problem with it you are in fact suggesting a toggle that will push it under the run in your game.  The argument of continuinity really doesn't come into play here as much as you simply not wanting to see it.  Lets be truthful here,  you are for the most part assuming a character is hetero simply because in your mind that is the default outside of a few characters no ones preference is particularly strong...

No one has really been that heavily developed what with those whole five minutes of dialogue per game.

Ok, I admit it, Iam tired of arguing, I am just extremely terrified of finding Garrus, Jacob, or Vega, in my quarters dressed in one of the outfits of that video of yours. There, happy? I still have no problems with homosexuality. I just find it.......odd.

It's no more odd then being straight.

Negative, being straight is something we're all built with the natural plumbing for. Nothing odd about it. Homosexuality on the other hand.........

Lol gays are built with their plumbing too, just not the procreating kind like breeders.