A logic question. He'll have to deal with them throughout the game anyway. Looking forward to see how the developers are gonna handle this. If they'll just leave this topic untouched - well, then... +1 plot hole to a game that is already full of them.
The kid we've seen in the demo may as well be something related to the topic, don't you think?
How is Shepard going to avoid indoctrination with so many reapers around
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Posté 17 juin 2011 - 01:40
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It requires a week or more of constant exposure for indoctrination to take hold. Shepard ain't gonna pitch a tent inside Harbinger and hang out, waiting for it to happen.
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Posté 17 juin 2011 - 01:41
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Why are you so sure that the indoctrination process, started by one reaper, cannot be continued by another and finished by the third one? You get the point.
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Posté 17 juin 2011 - 01:46
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FERMi27 wrote...
Why are you so sure that the indoctrination process, started by one reaper, cannot be continued by another and finished by the third one? You get the point.
It appears to be a cumulative effect. Keyword being cumulative. Shepard's combined time in close proximity to Reapers is not going to be measured in weeks. One could also pretty reasonably assume that the beginnings of indoctrination wear off when he's not in close proximity to Reapers.
The only people who have been indoctrinated are those in close, continuous contact with Reaper tech. Shepard is not going to be in continuous contact with Reapers, even during a galactic war.
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Posté 17 juin 2011 - 01:49
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He'll stick his fingers in his ears and go "lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala"
Or maybe the Flying Spaghetti Monster will protect him.
In other words "oh look, this thread again"
Or maybe the Flying Spaghetti Monster will protect him.
In other words "oh look, this thread again"
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Posté 17 juin 2011 - 01:51
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good ol' tinfoil - other than that james explained it very well.
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Posté 17 juin 2011 - 01:51
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I dunno man, anything can happen. Who knows what the writers have planned for us? Maybe a holiday on a Reaper beach, with Dragon Teeth instead of tropical palms?jamesp81 wrote...
FERMi27 wrote...
Why are
you so sure that the indoctrination process, started by one reaper,
cannot be continued by another and finished by the third one? You get
the point.
It appears to be a cumulative effect. Keyword
being cumulative. Shepard's combined time in close proximity to
Reapers is not going to be measured in weeks. One could also pretty
reasonably assume that the beginnings of indoctrination wear off when
he's not in close proximity to Reapers.
The only people who have been indoctrinated are those in close, continuous contact with Reaper tech. Shepard is not going to be in continuous contact with Reapers, even during a galactic war.
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Posté 17 juin 2011 - 01:53
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good ol' tinfoil - other than that james explained it very well.
yes its gotta be tin though, none of that aluminum crap
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Posté 17 juin 2011 - 01:56
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Doubt it's tinfoil. An electrocution might instantly fry those who'll wear that kind of protection.
You can put some in a microwave and turn it on, if you don't believe me. Just make sure your family will get the insurance cash. Just in case.
You can put some in a microwave and turn it on, if you don't believe me. Just make sure your family will get the insurance cash. Just in case.
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Posté 17 juin 2011 - 01:56
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jamesp81 wrote...
It appears to be a cumulative effect. Keyword being cumulative. Shepard's combined time in close proximity to Reapers is not going to be measured in weeks. One could also pretty reasonably assume that the beginnings of indoctrination wear off when he's not in close proximity to Reapers.
The only people who have been indoctrinated are those in close, continuous contact with Reaper tech. Shepard is not going to be in continuous contact with Reapers, even during a galactic war.
Exactly this.
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Posté 17 juin 2011 - 01:59
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Indoctrination takes weeks or months, sometimes even a year.
Also Saren was serving Sovereign for years and still had free will even by the end of ME1.
Also Saren was serving Sovereign for years and still had free will even by the end of ME1.
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Posté 17 juin 2011 - 02:03
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FERMi27 wrote...
Doubt it's tinfoil. An electrocution might instantly fry those who'll wear that kind of protection.
You can put some in a microwave and turn it on, if you don't believe me. Just make sure your family will get the insurance cash. Just in case.
I was referring to tinfoil hat - favourite headgear of conspiracy theorists everywhere, for protection against mind control.
That was a joke...
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Posté 17 juin 2011 - 07:24
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It's Shepard chances are their more afraid of being indoctrinated by him/her than the reverse 
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Posté 17 juin 2011 - 07:29
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Because of our hidden bonus stat we carry in our armour- 120% plot armour.
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Posté 18 juin 2011 - 04:20
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jamesp81 wrote...
It requires a week or more of constant exposure for indoctrination to take hold. Shepard ain't gonna pitch a tent inside Harbinger and hang out, waiting for it to happen.
^ This and according to Benezia it may take alittle longer then a week for a strong mind like shep. She was a strong mind as well but she lived on the thing. I don't think shep will be indoctrinated by proxy in 3 I think like OL he will be hacked and used by the reapers for their own gains.
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Posté 18 juin 2011 - 04:25
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Shepard was rebuilt but Cerberus added some Anti-Indoctrination thingy into Shepard.
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Posté 18 juin 2011 - 04:26
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"I'm Commander Shepard, and I throw caution into the wind."
Or better yet:
"I'm Commander Shepard, and the Reapers are my favorite race on the Citadel."
Or better yet:
"I'm Commander Shepard, and the Reapers are my favorite race on the Citadel."
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Posté 18 juin 2011 - 04:34
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Shepard is the perfect flawless hero with no errors. He can't be indoctrinated because he is an awesome hero.
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Posté 18 juin 2011 - 04:50
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But what if he has been indoctrinated?
But what if he has been indoctrinated?
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Posté 18 juin 2011 - 04:56
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Then the galaxy is ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL
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Posté 18 juin 2011 - 05:24
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Don't you see? The Reapers will succeed. It is inevitable. Saren's way, was the only way, any of us would have survived.
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Posté 18 juin 2011 - 05:31
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If Shepard is going to be on board a Reaper for days, yeah maybe.
Otherwise, if he's spending days/weeks in the area of Reapers (Earth), yeah..also maybe.
OTHERWISE, no, he's not affected, and it seems he has a sort of resistance to it (its up to Bioware to follow up on this, or just leave it at 'strong will').
I'm more concerned for the survivors and fighters left on Earth. Sustained exposure to Reapers, and so many of them...
Otherwise, if he's spending days/weeks in the area of Reapers (Earth), yeah..also maybe.
OTHERWISE, no, he's not affected, and it seems he has a sort of resistance to it (its up to Bioware to follow up on this, or just leave it at 'strong will').
I'm more concerned for the survivors and fighters left on Earth. Sustained exposure to Reapers, and so many of them...
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Posté 18 juin 2011 - 05:38
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In retribution TIM discovers reaper nano technology and implants them into Grayson's spine. Over several days he becomes indoctrinated, however I think the level of free will given to the indoctrinated is entirely up to the reapers. It's also worth noting that it seemed like more than one reaper could interact with Grayson while he was indoctrinated.
