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You know who *else* fought at your side throughout ME1? Tali and Garrus! You know who didn't decide to shoot you down and betray you when you were caught in a hornet's nest and needed their help the most? Tali and Garrus! You know who actually bothered to trust you and stand by your side? It sure as hell wasn't the VS![/quote]
you mean the guy who was cornered and near death when you find him, and whose life you litteraly save and who has nowhere else to go?
and the girl whose life you also save, who was pissed of by the admiralty board abusing her basicaly, who is antagonistic as hell to your crew member who is merely trying to be welcoming?
Garrus trusts you even if you haven't recruited him. Tali has a crush on you even if you treated her horribly in ME1, didn't give her the data, gave Veetor to Cerberus.
yeah, that's VERY reasonable characters right there, if I didn't know any better, I would wonder if Cerberus implanted either one of them with a control chip or something.
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So you're trying to argue that it doesn't matter whether Tali or Garrus stands by your side despite everything but it does matter when the VS does?
Your attempts to try to undermine their credibility are really, really reaching.
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Whether they're right about Cerberus or not is completely irrelevant. It wouldn't matter if that group was headed by Satan and Saddam Hussein themselves, they were still the only organization willing to offer Shepard the resources he/she needs to take down the Collectors and the Reapers. Stopping the Reapers HAS to be placed above *all* other considerations because nothing else, including what Cerberus did or does, is going to matter if everyone is turned into Reaper chow, is it? THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT! That's why the whole argument on Horizon is stupid and why the VS is absolutely bat**** insane on this issue! They're being petty and if you weren't so busy being antagonistic, you would see that too!
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oh them being right about Cerberus is VERY relevant. Cerberus steals your body, with a help of Liara no less. yeah alliance eventualy gives up, but do you know when? how long can you keep searching?
Cerberus and TIM places Shepard into a railroaded situation where they have to agree to work with them before they have a chance to talk to ANYONE from their alliance days. Even Jocker and Chakwas you meet AFTER you agree to work with TIM. you show up on a Citadel in a very obviously Cerberus vesel that looks suspiciously a lot like the prototype ship that was supposed to be secret and destroyed... bearing the same name too. he isolates you from all but a few chosen, disenchanted peopel. the crew on the Normandy looks very specificaly selected and doesn't come across as the typical Cerberus outfit you are familiar with - to lul you into complacency. he spreads rumors about you, unsettling rumors - before you even wake up. VS is on Horizon why? becasue the tip they get is - CERBERUS had been abducting colonies. and here you are... confirming that you work for Cerberus.
Nothing on freedom's progress suggests that collectors are working for the reapers. nothing. you see them abducting human colonists. not killing, abducting. could they be working with Cerberus? hell's yes. it is a VERY reasonable assumption to make, concidering that you find several, not just one, several human colonies that Cerberus experiemnted on in ME1)
defeating the Reapers is important. but is alliance/council really not doing anything or are they simply not telling you because you are now a security risk? do you think that flotilla of ships in earth's orbit was built in couple of months?
there are a lot of plot holes in ME2. either that or we are not yet being told nearly everything to get the full picture. and if you just stop being blinded by "how dare you disagree with me, how dare you call me out on my bad decisions" you might even see that.
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Holy crap, Ashley has an account on the Bioware forums! XD
Number one, Cerberus didn't steal your body. The Shadow Broker scooped it up out of the ruins of the Normandy crash and intended to sell it to the Collectors. Liara GAVE your body to Cerberus under the promise that you would be resurrected (which they fulfilled. Without a control chip) . Without the help of Liara, Feron and Cerberus, Shepard would have been Reaper chow.
And number two I don't understand what any of these points have to do with anything, nor do I see how they make Cerberus's reputation relevant when it comes to stopping the Reaper threat.
Are you trying to argue that Cerberus had it out for you from the beginning? Of course they were just using Shepard and could turn on him/her at any second! That was blatantly obvious from the beginning! No one in their right mind would walk into a situation like that naively thinking that Cerberus has changed their ways and that they're good now. That's missing the point of why (a sensible) Shepard cooperates with them throughout ME2 -- to bilk those sorry sons of ****es for everything they've got and then at the big reveal, kick them to the ****ing curb and/or destroy them, regardless of their motivations! It's a dangerous game, one which Shepard had no choice but to play for the good of the galaxy. Unless you like being Reaper chow. I hear human flavored milkshakes taste delicious, especially with whipped cream.
And while we're on the subject, if you're still in the midst of your provincial blood-rage and still insist on Shepard playing only for team Alliance regardless of the circumstances, let me ask you this: What would you seriously expect a Shepard in ME2 to do, when no one in the Alliance would help you (except Hackett, but he only asked you to save a friend with info in the Arrival DLC); give you resources; or give you vital information (thanks a lot Anderson, you ****); and no one in the Council will even believe you let alone talk to you depending on how you ended ME1? How else are you going to save the galaxy? What is your plan? Are you willing to write a proposal to Bioware to change the entire plot of their game to cater to you? Are you seriously going to sit here and argue that Shepard should just stand by and let everyone be turned into Reaper chow because of some petty bull****? Inquiring minds must know.
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) From what you hear all around(news,conversations...), Shepard is still presumed to be dead.There are only rumors that he might s/he might be alive and working for Cerberus. And also,contacting Anderson and so on happens 2 years after you died! AND neither Anderson nor Udina nor anybody else seems to have contacked the VS to say Sheprad showed up to have a chat with them!
